Posted on 10/06/2015 6:55:17 PM PDT by SatinDoll
The Gog of Turkey, president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, said his country could not endure Russian violations any longer of its airspace in its campaign in Syria.
Gog y Magog
Russian involvement in the 4½-year-old Syrian civil war seems to be escalating, with NATO’s secretary general confirming Tuesday a second incursion by Russian planes into Turkish airspace and saying Russian ground troops were in Syria as well. The first violation of Turkey’s airspace is reported to have happened Saturday. The second was Sunday, officials said.
Now even CNN says:
The tension between Russia and Turkey, however, appears to be escalating. The two countries are at odds over the civil war in Syria, with Russia backing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.
Such escalation came from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan who now threatens Russia: “an attack on Turkey means an attack on Nato“. He then added:
“If Russia loses a friend like Turkey, with whom it has been co-operating on many issues, it will lose a lot, and it should know that”.
THEY GOT THE WRONG GOG For how many years we have been saying it, that Russia and Turkey will eventually have a major fallout while others said (even used the Bible) arguing that they will become great allies?
So much for both, the secular, and the so-called prophecy analyst, who take the biblical text out of context or think that economy is the only building block for alliances.
No stupid. Religion and correct understanding of history is the main drive in world affairs much more than it is the economy.
One of the most major errors the West did is that it added Muslim Turkey as member of NATO in 1952, and alliance rules say that an attack on any of the 28-member states should be treated as an attack on all.
So now the entire relationship between Turkey and Russia is at stake while so-called Christian nations will stand on the side of Turkey, an Antichrist nation, instead of Orthodox Russia.
And now you wonder how so many will err and support Antichrist, even including so-called Bible believing Christians? While I will deal with that issue in more detail later, the question is: who is truly encroaching on who? Is Russia encroaching on Turkey’s sphere?
We have maintained that Russia’s relationship as well as China’s relationship with Turkey will eventually erode: “unpleasant news from the east (China) and the north (Russia) will alarm him (Antichrist)” (Daniel 11:44). And today the evidence cannot be any clearer.
HERE IS WHAT THEY WILL NEVER TEACH YOU IN SUNDAY SCHOOL The situation in Syria is only the tip of the ice-berg. The world is up-in-arms when Russian jets enter into Turkish airspace while no one sounds a peep when the Muslim Tatar in Ukraine’s Crimea complain about Orthodox Russia’s expansion into the Ukraine, a landmass that was always part of Orthodox Russia since 1783.
To an Antichrist loving world, it is okay for the Muslim Gog of Turkey to expand into Syria by exporting terrorists all the way from China’s Uyghur while at the same time send floods of Muslim immigrants to Europe. The world ignores that such a “friendship” between Russia and Turkey are hindered by the Islamist uprisings influenced by Turkey against a Russian ally: Syria. An Islamist takeover of Syria will threaten Russia’s interests in the Tartus naval base, (its only Mediterranean proxy naval opening). That including Turkey’s establishments of an Islamic alliance which will contradict Russia’s and China’s interests and is why Turkey will be threatened from the East (China) and the North (Russia) in the future battle of all battles.
Few understand the schism and conflict. From China we have the Muslim Urumqi uprising in Xinjiang’s China with Muslim Uyghur-Turks who sparks major rift in Turkey’s China relations, leading to a boycott of Chinese goods and China not wanting to lose the Xinjiang region to Turkey. The Xinjiang issue continues to rankle, Turkey adopting its Islamist heritage, that with a rift with Russia will cause it to eventually crumble. Now you know what this “unpleasant news from the east” (China) is all about.
Muslim Uighur from the Xinjiang region in China with the mark of Islam in their faces
Crimea is crucial for defeating Antichrist Turkey. The Almighty by Russia taking the Ukraine is perhaps removing the only buffer between Turkey and Russia and is setting up the launching pad for Russian airstrikes and submarines cross the Black Sea into Turkey to defeat it.
It was Turkey who betrayed Russia by going to bed with Ukraine. Turkey’s betrayal of Russia includes an elaborate buildup of a military alliance with Ukraine. Ukraine opposes a planned Russian-Turkish natural gas pipeline, the Turkish Stream, which replaces a long-planned South Stream project that would have carried Russian gas to Europe across the Black Sea. Russia will have Turkey in check. Russia is Turkey’s largest energy supplier and it looks increasingly difficult for Turkey to maintain its policy to balance relations with hostile neighbors Ukraine and Russia at the same time. Russia in the Ukraine will eventually neutralize Turkey’s sphere in what was once Russian territory.
The chips are beginning to move on the prophetic pad. In the mountainous Caucasus, Russia has already been strengthening its presence in Georgia’s breakaway territories. Orthodox Russia remains Christian Armenia’s only real patron, a developing bargain with Muslim Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh has the potential to expand Russia’s presence even more and thus reinforce a Russian buffer to the south.
The road to Armageddon is a revival of almost all the ancient conflicts between the children of God and the children of the devil calumniating in the Middle East. This would also include historic Ottoman-Russo wars.
NATO forgets the oil Turkey steals which already has $800 million worth, that ISIS obtained from regions it occupied this year in the Rumeilan oil fields in northern Syria — and most recently Mosul. They have laid pipes from villages near the Turkish border at Hatay. Similar pipes exist also at the Turkish border regions of Kilis, Urfa and Gaziantep transfering the oil to Turkey and parlay it into cash taking the oil from the refineries at zero cost. Turkey has a foundation in NATO and unlike Iran it can tremendously influence the West while it uses Bashar Al-Assad as its scapegoat devil.
You will never learn in Sunday school how Turkey, the Red Dragon of Revelation 12, with its two horns (the crescent moon) will “gush forth the flood” of immigration of Muslims unto Christendom as we see happening today, or how the Woman in Revelation 12 will stomp the crescent under her feet. All this is arising as we see in front of our very eyes. As Syria weakens, Turkey is eyeballing not only Syria, but Egypt, Libya and Israel (Daniel 11:43).
THE ETERNAL DANGERS OF MISUNDERSTANDING PROPHECY At times I am told that error on prophecy does not matter eternally.
Really? Lets toss this idea around.
Truth is that prophecy at times is set in a vague way with allegory. It is written in the same way Jesus set up His parables. Jesus was asked as to why He speaks in parables. His answer was fascinating:
To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:
“You will indeed hear but never understand, and you will indeed see but never perceive. For this people’s heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.” (Matt. 13:11-16)
The fool interprets Daniel and Revelation without all the literal references. The Bible is a blessing and is a curse. It is a blessing when one hears and reads what it says and it is a curse when we read into it what it does not say.
Nowhere does the Bible curse Rome, Europe or Russia and in all prophecy it curses “Lydia” (Turkey) “Libya” “Arabia” “Egypt” “Syria” “Greece” (Yavan/Ionia in Turkey) and the list goes on and on. These are all Muslim today, not Orthodox or Catholic. The false Christians will curse Russia and Rome while the true Christian will realize that God chastised Russia and healed it and will also chastise Rome as He will in the future. Many use the Bible, not to express God’s mind, but to express old hatreds for Rome and Russia. If you think Russia is Gog and Magog click here and get healed
There will be a showdown between Russia and Turkey. Few focus closely on Daniel 11:44, “But then unpleasant news from the east and the north will alarm him”
“news from the north” (Russia) “will trouble the King of the North” (Turkey).
Only Turkey fits. This one little verse alone brings to ruin tons of prophecy books. Had Europe been “anti-Christ,” there are no nations north of Europe, there is nothing but a vast ocean. Antichrist is “north” not “far-north” just “north enough” with someone mightier than him who is north of him: Russia. europe-map
North of Europe is the Atlantic Sea
This is why the Antichrist is King of the North and he also has an enemy from the north (Russia). All this, while so-called ‘prophecy’ experts are re-drawing the maps to appear that Europe and Rome are Antichrist and harlot. How so, when Europe is in the West of Israel? No where in Scripture do we have a threat from the West and all threats in the Bible are from the north, south and east.
Beware of the blind leading the blind.
Ignoring prophecy is crucial. Calvinists who hated Rome joined the Muslim Ottoman Turk against the Catholic League at Lepanto in 1571. What was their end? They were cursed and defeated drowning with the Muslim. It was at Lepanto in 1571, where English and German Calvinists aided the Muslim Ottomans against what they believed was the Roman Harlot.
Has anything changed? No.
Similarly today, Protestant U.S. (England’s extension) is aiding Turkey’s cause against Russia in Syria while Protestant Germany is accepting whatever the Red Dragon, Muslim Turkey, dishes to its lands with a massive flood (Revelation 12) drawing their curse.
From the Calvinists to now, not much has changed. History will repeat itself in order that God sifts the wheat from the tares, the blind from who sees, the deaf from who hears and the lazy from the hard-working. Ever wonder why the easy-believeism of today hates “works”? You think the owner of the vineyard will tolerate a lazy servant? Ever wonder why they ridicule historic Christian wars with Islam? You think Christ is playing games?
It was at Lepanto when Christian Europe, under the Catholic League finally defeated the Islamic Ottoman Empire in one of the most decisive victories besides the Battle of Vienna in Sept. 11-13, 1683. Protestant U.S. was quite naive, lacked in understanding history to see that connect on why 9-11 happened.
Many are the blind whom in their zeal and hatred for the Russian Orthodox and the Roman Catholic, will praise God while the Muslim praises Allah as they see Europe and Russia suffer in the future. So many cheer for Turkey against Russia. And when Turkey invades Rome they will cry out “Alas, Alas, the Harlot and Gog. There hour is neigh”.
But even this will cause many to heal as Protestant England and Germany in the end praised the Catholic league for defeating the Muslim Ottomans. Christ said “lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.” Christ will heal many. Lest we forget, God in the end chose a Protestant, General Allenby to defeat the Ottomans. But General Allenby was no anti-Catholic and described himself as a “crusader”.
All make mistakes. While the U.S. feared communist Russia more than Islam, they aided the Afghan Mujahideen against Russia. This was a major mistake similar to what the U.S. did during the Arab Spring. In Afghanistan, U.S. policy gave birth to the Taliban. But that was okay for many, so long Russia’s sphere of influence is depleted. The wise, knew that God will heal Russia.
It was the same blindness, hatred towards Russia’s sphere of influence, that caused the evil outcome in the Arab Spring where even conservative Americans loved the idea of ousting all Russia’s allies, the Arab nationalists, Saddam, and before him, Qhaddafi of Libya and Mubarak in Egypt and now Assad in Syria.
The naive thinks that the U.S. should learn from all the mess when truth is, the mess is all intentional.
The chaos caused by the U.S. has now become the adhesive, or the pitch if you will to unite Muslims. This is what Turkey has been waiting for to rebuild its dream using sympathy for the suffering Muslim to argue for Muslims to immigrate by the millions to the Protestant parts of Europe who welcomed Muslims as they did at Lepanto.
Christ does not honor the stupid. General Allenby was no stupid man.
General Allenby marches on foot into Jerusalem after defeating the Muslim Ottomans refusing to ride car, horse or even donkey in honor of Christ.
Understanding history and biblical geography is key. Ever wonder why most of the so-called prophecy students are lousy on history and geography?
Many of the foolish use outlandish maps drawn up by amateur theologians. The wise follow maps that are drawn by serious historians. No wise will visit a car mechanic to pull out a decayed tooth. Nevertheless, many should somehow replace their decayed hearts no matter how they do it.
People here depress themselves thinking that Christianity is over. Truth is, Christianity is alive and well. Christ’s Church is alive and well. All one has to do is to find that narrow gate. Christ is calling but you must know how to hear His voice...
‘Um, okay.
I’m shocked though that my Grandfather a Professor of Theology, apparently didn’t know what he was talking about or understand scripture.
Heck, somehow, the University kept him on for 40 years. Frightening really.
He taught it me at the age of 10....I better resign as a Junior Tutor today, in case I’m teaching rubbish to the students!
Well, there is that Rev 9:16 comment about some 200 million crossing the Euphrates....
Oh really. So, who or what do you think it is?
Is it? According to myth and legend it says....no historical, geographical proof:
“Beginning from the 16th century, some European scholars proposed the idea that the Muscovites had stemmed from Meshech. Sir Walter Ralegh (c. 1616) attributes this opinion to Philipp Melanchthon (1497–1560) and to Benito Arias Montano (1571), and it was also followed later by Jonathan Edwards (1703–1758). Moreover, according to a legend first appearing in the Kievan Synopsis (1674),[2] Moscow (Moskva) was founded by King Mosokh son of Japheth (i.e. Meshech), and was named for him and his wife, Kva. In this legend, they are also said to have had a son, Ya, and daughter, Vuza, who gave their names to the nearby Yauza river.”
So Unicorns and Mermaids COULD be real afterall....not just myth and legend ;)
We have no actual proof, but we can just believe in myths and legends....oh heck that means fairies and leprechauns could be real also.
Yes there is, which from the geographic region one can get that figure, so probably it’s feasible.
Sudan should be in that somewhere, in the Bible Ethiopia is modern-day Sudan and not modern-day Ethiopia of course.
I’ve put some milk and cake at the bottom of my garden, this is the place one was taught the fairies hang out, at the bottom of ones garden.
I KNEW Arthur Conan Doyle wasn’t a liar, he gave us Sherlock Holmes. Why would the Cottingley Fairies therefore not have been real? ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/sense_of_place/unexplained/cottingley_fairies.shtml
“Got is Turkey, Iran, Iraq areas....MAGOG is Russia”
Gog is leader of Magog , Meshech and Tubal
Togarmah , Magog , Meshech and Tubal are all parts of what was once known as Asia Minor - Now known as TURKEY
(Ezekiel 38:2) Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
(Ezekiel 38:3) And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
(Ezekiel 38:4) And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
(Ezekiel 38:5) Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
(Ezekiel 38:6) Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Very interesting website - glad you posted it.
According to the site’s prophesy author, Craig White, these events are to follow soon:
ISIS gets wiped out in a Mosul flood
Damascus gets destroyed
Israel gets invaded by Sudan coalition comprised of Turkey, Iran, and Sudan
We shall see
Hightimetoawake.com
Interesting, yet alarming stuff.
ISIS getting wiped out in the Mosul flood. This one can envisage easily. They control Mosul, the Mosul Dam is huge, if that flooded, it’d probably flood half of Iraq.
The others are entirely feasible also.
All of them of course are feasible now, because Obama has enabled these things with his foreign policy....I believe not out of stupidity but out of deliberate actions.
The “King of the North” is likely Syrian/Assyrian or European. Here’s one view: http://www.cogwriter.com/kingofthenorth.htm
Turkey is Sunni. Iran is Shi’ia.
Turkey is Arabic. Iran is Persian.
Turkey is backing ISIS against Assad. Iran is supporting Hezbollah for Assad.
Anyone predicting Turkey and Iran to be allied is smoking Grade B crack.
Glad you brought up this book, which I’m exerpting to highlight Russia’s completed goals
FR is better than grad school.
RE: “ The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia” -
Very prescient 1997 Russian geopolitical chess game plan.
I had often wondered why a sly Russian friend’s favorite saying was:
“All is going according to plan”, when responding to “how’s it going?” inquiry...
Check -
Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because ““Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics”. Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.[1]
Check -
The book stresses the “continental Russian-Islamic alliance” which lies “at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy”. The alliance is based on the “traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization”.
Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term “Moscow-Tehran axis”.[1]
Check - *Obola facilitates, as in: “tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election”).
“The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: “the main ‘scapegoat’ will be precisely the U.S.”
In the United States:
Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism. For instance, provoke “Afro-American racists”. Russia should “introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics.”[1]
Hasn’t happened -
*I’ll bet China’s wary of this Russian goal. Puzzling to see this since Russia and China conduct annual joint military invasion exercises since 1999, and China’s military has grown considerably. Keep your enemies close?
“China, which represents a danger to Russia, “must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled”. Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet-Xinjiang-Mongolia-Manchuria as a security belt.[2] Russia should offer China help “in a southern direction – Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia” as geopolitical compensatation.[1]”
I am not sure if anybody here remembers Zola. I miss him, may he RIP. Great teacher. Anyway, the first time I saw Shoebat was on his program. I always thought Magog was Russia until I saw Shoebat and now, I am convinced Magog is Turkey.
I get it and am glad you brought up those huge divisions.
What say you about this interretation of an expected Sunni & Shi’ia alliance and that may come to pass?
“Ezekiel 38 describes an invasion into Israel by Turkey, Iran, Libya, and Sudan”.
Ezekial 38 says “Persia, Cush, and Put will be with them”.
Cush is the upper Nile. Central Africa. South Sudan.
Not Turkey.
“Put” can mean Province of Persia or Libya.
Not Turkey.
Keep in mind that the largest non-Israeli military in that region is in Egypt.
King of the South.
Pretty weird war to invade Israel without the aid of the King of The South.
Pretty weird war to need soldiers from South Sudan, going North to Israel past the King of the South (Egypt).
Right now, most of the refugees fleeing North into Europe are coming from 3 places, which are each linked to EZ 38.
The refugees are coming from Syria (King of the North), South Sudan, and from Libya.
Hmmm!
Very logical observation and clarification.
Gonna try to back away from puzzling things of this world.
That race was won in ‘08.
Babylon the Great & The Turkish Antichrist
http://youtu.be/3vakiPmnDWk
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