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Cosmology was at one time my absolute favorite subject. The origin of the universe is a most compelling phenomena that boggles the mind and sends shivers down your spine at the incredible scenario the process of which has created this inexplicable infinite abyss of stars,galaxies and more, much , much more and the little we know about it.

Scientists have for centuries attempted to make sense of it all from an empirical perspective and most of what we think we know is based upon one very questionable aspect of it all. The speed of light. The speed of light is one of the very few irrefutable tools he can count on to help answer the question of how the universe began, used as a fundamental tool, an irrefutable component for which everything we think we know about the universe is based upon. In using their exotic quantum physics equations,the speed of light is inserted into their calculations and voila, the origin, structure of the universe is all there explained, elucidated, laid out with a few still unknown aspects.

But what has kept cosmologists up at night is a nightmarish thought that threatens everything they've espoused about the universe and its creation.

What IF, the speed of light has changed since the creation? At the beginning it was faster than for some inexplicable cosmic reason changed, slowed down to the current speed in which light travels. That would throw some humongous monkey wrench into the mix, make the creation of the universe even more of a confusing, inexplicable WTF scenario. And there's no way to know whether or not such a phenomena occurred.

The birth of the universe could have happened after a four-dimensional star collapsed into a black hole and ejected debris.

After just reading the newest, most recent explanation for the creation of the universe, I have now abandoned all hope of ever knowing about how the universe came into being. (are you kidding?) given up on seeking the dynamics for how this vast expanse of inexplicable mind-boggling infinite abyss ever came into being. It was was at the point I realized that after all these years I will stop trying to gt a grasp on it all and wished the cosmologists all the luck in the world.

1 posted on 09/30/2015 7:10:11 PM PDT by lbryce
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I pass the baton of ever hoping to get a grasp understanding the universe to yours truly


2 posted on 09/30/2015 7:11:21 PM PDT by lbryce (OBAMA:Misbegotten, GodForsaken, Bastard offspring of Satan and Medusa)
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What if the creator created the light particles in place? What if He said, “let there be light” and then created the stars after the light was created?


3 posted on 09/30/2015 7:13:38 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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I always come to the strange conclusion that there really shouldn’t be anything, and yet supposedly there is.


4 posted on 09/30/2015 7:14:44 PM PDT by Sawdring
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“Nobody knows anything for sure”

Bull.

If I walk in the backyard and get dog crap on my shoes and walk on the carpet, I KNOW I’m going to get yelled at.


6 posted on 09/30/2015 7:16:06 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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“For all physicists know, dragons could have come flying out of the singularity,” stated Niayesh Afshordi..."

And yet many, if not most will venomously dismiss the concept of a Divine Creator as superstitious nonsense.

7 posted on 09/30/2015 7:17:47 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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one of my goals in retirement (20 years from now I project, sigh) is to do the math with C as a variable instead of a constant to see what results. I imagine it will be fascinating to conjecture.


8 posted on 09/30/2015 7:18:52 PM PDT by reed13k (w)
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The Equations that define the famous InterceptPoint Theory of the Origin of the Universe:

1 minus 1 equals zero

Our universe corresponds to the +1
Our unseen mirror universe corresponds to the -1
The Zero is what we started with

This isn’t Rocket Science.


9 posted on 09/30/2015 7:19:00 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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“What IF, the speed of light has changed since the creation?”

Then it’s not a constant, and we should be able to detect its change. That change is most likely measurable because it would have to fit the history of the universe, starting with “the beginning” and scaling to what it is today. For what we see in a variable light speed universe would set boundaries on what could have happened (akin to my contention that the universe is not 10,000 years old because what we see can’t fit in a 10,000 light year radius).


10 posted on 09/30/2015 7:23:02 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The world map will be quite different come 20 January 2017.)
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Why are scientists allowed to study alternative theories to the Big Bang? There is a clear consensus, over 90% of scientists believe in the Big Bang, its settled science.

If this is allowed, it only give credence to people who demand something more than consensual assertions on man made global warming.


11 posted on 09/30/2015 7:27:26 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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a four-dimensional star collapsed into a black hole and ejected debris.

A climate catastrophe.

12 posted on 09/30/2015 7:29:22 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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“Also, it’s hard to predict why it would have produced a universe that has an almost uniform temperature, because the age of our universe (about 13.8 billion years) does not give enough time — as far as we can tell — to reach a temperature equilibrium. “

On the other hand, if the Universe is infinite and eternal, then the theory matches the data.


16 posted on 09/30/2015 7:38:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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It's right there in Genesis 1:1

The Creator stretched out space/time and filled it with matter.

This is all temporary. Yet out of the finite He created the infinite. US. Because He Loves us.

25 posted on 09/30/2015 8:00:15 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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The idea that a pre existing universe consolidated into a black hole or singularity which subsequently exploded to become our universe is logically attractive except for two ideas. First there is the problem of inflation where physical laws and limits are suspended and secondly, our universe seems to be expanding into virtual non existence.


30 posted on 09/30/2015 8:28:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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Not much difference. The universe is still a black hole that managed to expand even though black holes can’t expand.


31 posted on 09/30/2015 8:38:12 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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“...birth of the universe could have happened after a four-dimensional star collapsed into a black hole..”

Where did this star come from?


32 posted on 09/30/2015 9:07:46 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("A bad cause seldom fails to betray itself." -James Madison)
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[L]et’s just preface this by saying nobody knows anything for sure. Humans obviously weren’t around at the time the universe began.

That's OK. "Progressives" know. they know all. Just ask them.

33 posted on 09/30/2015 9:57:18 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Certain observational evidence is best explained (within the Big Bang / standard model) as indicating that our part of the universe (at least!) is already inside the event horizon of a gi-normous black hole.

Best way to tell one way or the other, my joints start to ache when I fall into a black hole.


35 posted on 09/30/2015 10:54:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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Try to get a cosmologist to even tell you what the shape of the universe is and he/she will laugh at you.

They will go on about how because of relativity there is no universal "now" so no way to get a snapshot of what the universe is or was or will be.

And with the ability of space and time to expand along with the matter and energy within space and time it's just impossible to even say if it's kinda sorta like an expanding sphere or shell or ...?

37 posted on 09/30/2015 11:29:09 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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My concept of the creation of the universe is very simple.
GOD SAID “LET IT BE SO”, AND THUS IT WAS, IS, AND EVER WILL BE.


38 posted on 10/01/2015 12:15:19 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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The more we know, the more we look. The more we look, the more we realize we don’t know nearly as much as we once thought we knew.


40 posted on 10/01/2015 3:09:00 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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