Posted on 09/19/2015 10:47:37 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP
I don't post a lot here but I do pop in and skim threads frequently from time to time especially during politically charged periods like now. I expect this to be a place where people of like ideology can discuss the good and bad about our candidates always keeping the greatest vitriol reserved for the other side. That's not the case though. If I were reading many of these threads posted here without an identifier of what website they were from, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell whether they were Dummies thread or Freeper threads. Threads here are filled with lib-like pack mentality attacks on our candidates. Someone posts a nasty comment about Jeb, or Fiorina, or Rubio or whoever and suddenly there is an explosion of hateful, often personal, attacks attempting to lay a case for why they are unfit to be POTUS. You never see this on the other side. It's as though on one hand we discount the bias media, but on the other we run with their criticisms, legitimize them, and act as though it's fine as long as WE are the one's spewing it.
I wonder how Reagan would be criticized now by our own if today were his time, and not 1980. The 20/20 hindsight knee jerk is to say we would love him. I call BS on that. Many of the same people bashing the good candidates we currently have in the bullpen today would be bashing candidate Reagan just as hard for the same superficial crap or irrelevant and inconsistant past flaws, no doubt feeding out of the trough of the MSM.
Ultimately this country cannot stand another obama-esque liberal administration. That is the most basic, fundamental goal we all need to embrace and fight against. There is a well coordinated army on the other side bashing and palinizing our candidates with surgical precision and methodology. They don't need us, but they certainly love us for helping them.
Don't misunderstand, there's nothing wrong with criticizing, I freely admit I hope Jeb fades away on one hand, while Trump the character worries the hell out of me on the other. That being said, I refuse to use the tactics of the other side to destroy the ones I don't agree with on OUR side...(and yes, they are still on our side whether you like it or not). Party loyalty is not an option, it's a necessity for us to win...that is reality. The Dems have mastered that, while we continue to fail at it. Loyalty not only by the candidate but more importantly by the voters...(us).
Whoever makes it out of the Dem nomination will no doubt be a propped-up, heavily flawed, injured, and most importantly an EASILY beatable candidate. Let's not beat ourselves...because that's the only way a dem wins again.
No kidding, just look at the discourse here on Free Republic.
I can’t speak for others, but I am not of the Republican party any longer.
I do not care about the GOP or any of its candidates.
I support Mr. Trump and Mr. Cruz, and the rest of them can go to Hell.
I view the GOP as my enemy.
I will not vote for anyone other than those two men under any circumstance.
I hope that helps clear things up.
You just want everybody to collude in the background and portray a united front?
JMO, but our last president was a rank liberal that stabbed conservatives in the back, repeatedly. The last two candidates we had were similarly rank liberals who were as bad as any demoRAT. And now the GOPe wants to give us another liberal in the person of jeb bush.
We won't beat "ourselves", but the GOPe will certainly beat us if it can.
Trump or Cruz. Anybody else and the Repugnant party is finished.
The Republican Party isn’t called the stupid party for nothing. Everyone of the candidates should have circled the wagons around Trump when the MSM started bashing him for a non answer. Other than a few - the rest piled on - and why? Did they think that the MSM or the WH would like them better? Fat chance. They have an R after their name - and regardless of their liberal policies - they are the Democrats enemies.
I’m with you. Read my tagline.
Such is the nature of political forums - on both sides. This will never change.
In the end though, most people realize that no matter how vitriolic the debate we all agree on more than we disagree. Primary season brings out the biggest internal fights, once we get a candidate and are facing the leftist opposition there will be far more unity.
I don’t, for example, like Donald Trump at all. I criticize him whenever I think it is deserved. Saying that, much as I don’t care for him, if “the Donald” were to win the GOP nomination I would support him for President over the Democrat. Suddenly I’d have common cause with all those I’d argued with over Trump. The Democrat will be worse, and that means most of us will stand together when the time comes.
Agree, but I am a registered Republican.
There is a rank order of those candidates from best to worst. Ideally, the best will win and the worst will drop out. Mitt Romney made no bones about it; he fought the others tooth and nail, trashing them along the way. It’s just a fact.
And you NEVER reveal your cards ahead of time. As far as I’m concerned, I will only settle for one of the top 3 conservatives.
You and I are of a like mind. My enemy. What pains me is the obvious back bending and equivocation we’re seeing by so-called conservatives here who just really have a hard on for Trump because we don’t like their ‘conservative’ candidate who isn’t doing worth crap in the polls.
Now, all of a sudden, we’re the unruly and unreasonable ones. Why can’t we just go for the most electable one they all think is some kind of conservative and let it go at that? Sheep bleats, loud and aplenty.
I have two candidates I’d vote for, only two also. Cruz and Trump if it comes down to it. The rest can take a hike.
My hunch is GOP-e will not support Trump no matter what. Plus, tell it to old fish mouth in Alaska and Thad Cochran who both turned around and ran after losing the primary.
Because they want to win? And will use every bit of ammunition no matter how hypocritical? You know, kinda like Donald Trump using Democrat talking points to diminish what Scott Walker has achieved in Wisconsin.
Oh please. Almost no one is going to circle the wagons during primary season, and the ones that do are simply calculating it helps them more in their goal of being the nominee to say nothing. It's all a political calculation because they will all fight near to the death to win.
This isn't kids games here, it's more a blood sport.
First, you have to define what a Republican is.
Next, you have to define what a Conservative is.
Half those running are formerly of the Democrat Party.
90% of those running claim to be conservatives.
A few even claim to be the real reincarnation of Reagan. [j/k]
Then, you have to prioritize your litmus test issues and weigh them against each candidate.
It is called vetting. That is how you separate the faux from the real. It is easy to claim to be a conservative. Does the record back that up?
“Don’t misunderstand, there’s nothing wrong with criticizing,”
Thanks now STFU.
The ILL-ANNOY “Combine Party” has successfully been transplanted into Washington, DC. Those in power are simply there to make sure they remain in power, and strike mutual deals with the devils to stay in power. Principles are compromised just to make sure there is a warm seat in the Senate or House with their name on it. The Democrat Party continues to maintain a power edge by manipulating the parliamentary parlor games. How else did we get minority-only approval for a non-treaty-treaty with Iran? How else did we get ObamaCare on party lines? Hillary is right to an extent: What difference does it make?
You are entitled to your opinion, however, I disagree. For once, it would be nice to see the Republicans put forth a united front to shut up the MSM and DEMS. Just once - instead, they eat their own. Some of these guys have no chance of winning - so they are wasting their time and money anyway.
It all depends on who you consider your own. I don’t intend to vote for anyone who isn’t my own. I won’t vote for Carl Rove’s own. Leaves me with two candidates.
Yes, most of them will. There will be the usual % of defectors, but the establishment will support Trump if they absolutely have to. Trump is smart enough to play their game, make them feel confident they will share in the power of electoral success and most of them will come along.
And by the way, just as many conservatives will defect from a mushy moderate (ie, Jeb) ticket. It works both ways. In the end though, once we have a nominee, it will be us versus them for the majority of people on the right.
I don’t consider liberal democrats posing and running as republicans as “our own”. Actually I don’t respect them because they run as republicans to win elections, when their ideology and policies are left wing. Party label is just that a party label.
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