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Meh (Fiorina)
The Market-Ticker ^ | Sept. 2, 2015 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 09/02/2015 5:02:47 AM PDT by SatinDoll

And?

CNN said Tuesday it is amending the criteria for candidates to qualify for its Republican presidential debate later this month, possibly clearing the way for contender Carly Fiorina to be part of the main-stage debate.

Fiorina has battled for weeks to be included in the Sept. 16 main event, arguing that CNN was relying too heavily on old polling to determine which candidates would make the top-10 cut.

Frankly, I don't get it. What does Fiorina bring to the party? She was a disaster at HP; not only did she get fired by the board the company lost half of its stock value and thousands of employees were laid off.

Now granted, she did well at Lucent -- or did she? While she wasn't there when the company nearly blew up she was in charge of the service-provider business and for that reason one has to wonder exactly how much of her guidance was involved in the decision to engage in the vendor financing scheme that detonated the firm's finances.

You do remember Lucent and the fact that by 2002 the company's stock priced had crashed to 56 cents, right? Lucent only avoided bankruptcy via an effective forced sale to Alcatel -- an ignoble fate that was brought about by outrageously irresponsible vendor financing of equipment to CLEC customers that turned out to be terrible credit risks.

Where, pray tell, is the press on her history in that regard? I count not one but two questionable corporate management stints, and while I'm not ready to indict her on her time at Lucent I'm also not going to count that as a "success" without a hell of a lot more information. Sales increases are all fine and well but if they are generated through vendor financing that ultimately blows up the company is that really "success" or should we call it something else?

This isn't some abstract thing for me either -- I ran MCSNet in the middle of that crap, never engaged in any of the stupid transactions (on either side) that ultimately blew up the tech world and half the carriers in it at the time, but I have a very long memory and there's no ****ing way Fiorina should be considered for any sort of national executive position until all of the documentation and facts related to that abject disaster are vetted and out in the open.

We haven't even gotten to HP yet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Politics
KEYWORDS: fiorina; fiorina2016; gopdebate; hewlettpackard; lucent; marketticker; themarketticker
Comments, anyone?

I know she's a RINO, and frankly do not like her at all.

1 posted on 09/02/2015 5:02:47 AM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

CNN made the girl cry.

Now they have to make up for it.


2 posted on 09/02/2015 5:07:05 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: SatinDoll

The Clinton News Network was trying to exclude Fiorina by relying upon old polls in order to facilitate PIAPS’ narrative of the GOP’s war on women.

Thanks to pressure by Breitbart, Drudge, et al., CNN caved and did the right thing.

Fiorina is a RINO but she’s auditioning for Veep by attacking Hillary (a good thing) and will take the place of some other RINO at the debate (hopefully they dump NJ Governer Crispy Kreme).


3 posted on 09/02/2015 5:07:18 AM PDT by peyton randolph (I am not a number. I am a free man.)
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To: SatinDoll

Fiorina is another Cheap Labor Express candidate

Amnesty is Death to America


4 posted on 09/02/2015 5:08:48 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: SatinDoll

I don’t trust her. She’s too PC and I agree she doesn’t have much success in the private sector to run on.


5 posted on 09/02/2015 5:10:14 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SatinDoll

She’s a token

She was a token female executive
Now she’s a token political,figure who ran for a governor job and lost big and still has never held an elected position nor started a business of her own
And somehow there are people on this earth who listen to a speech and say yep, she’s got my vote for President


6 posted on 09/02/2015 5:12:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: peyton randolph
The Clinton News Network was trying to exclude Fiorina by relying upon old polls in order to facilitate PIAPS’ narrative of the GOP’s war on women. Thanks to pressure by Breitbart, Drudge, et al., CNN caved and did the right thing.

BINGO
7 posted on 09/02/2015 5:13:13 AM PDT by BigEdLB (We need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' on Iranian bombing runs. It is not vituous)
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To: 4rcane

At this point, the only reason anyone could possibly vote for her is that 1. woman 2. outsider 3. did well in first debate
Her negatives 1. poor executive experience


8 posted on 09/02/2015 5:13:31 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: silverleaf

At least she could properly explain what it means to wipe a hard drive.


9 posted on 09/02/2015 5:13:32 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: peyton randolph

Carly Fiorina is the anti-Hillary in this strategic game. While some have tearfully griped at the apparent lack of conservative credentials on the part of Fiorina, she does bring something that none of the other Republican contenders has - girl parts.

Inclusion of Fiorina in the debate largely limits the effects of a “war on women” as being exclusively a Republican strategy.

The Democrat war on women is much more widespread and pervasive, just as their suppression of blacks is equally as oppressive to the aspirations of any middle-class values.


10 posted on 09/02/2015 5:17:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: SatinDoll

I agree, and have been saying that for a long time, but there are some people who just refuse to take their blinders off, just because she attacks Hillary and can talk a mean game.


11 posted on 09/02/2015 5:20:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: alloysteel
Inclusion of Fiorina in the debate largely limits the effects of a “war on women” as being exclusively a Republican strategy.

How'd that work out for Sarah Palin?

12 posted on 09/02/2015 5:21:15 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

I did not say that the Republicans do not play their own side game of “Be a good girl and sit down now.”

The Democrats have been at it a lot longer and keep the game more nuanced. Or sometimes not so nuanced, as when they snatched the coronation away from Herself, Madame Benghazi, the Cold and Joyless, in 2008, to give the nod to another of the “oppressed” Democrat coalition.


13 posted on 09/02/2015 5:28:58 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Knowing that Carly was an avid McCain supporter is all I need to know about her.


14 posted on 09/02/2015 5:41:28 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SatinDoll

She stinks!

She’s another backup RINO held in reserve by the GOPee.


15 posted on 09/02/2015 5:53:01 AM PDT by Bobalu (See my freep page for political images.)
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To: dforest

“Carly was an avid McCain supporter”

As was Trump, and he supported Hillary too.


16 posted on 09/02/2015 6:09:58 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: Timber Rattler

Good point!


17 posted on 09/02/2015 6:27:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: SatinDoll

This is all anyone needs to know about her. IMO she’s taking up valuable space - now she will probably suck the air out of the debate going after Trump when we need to hear from the few candidates who are actually qualified and can save this country.

http://fortune.com/2015/08/14/carly-fiorina-president-2/


18 posted on 09/02/2015 6:53:31 AM PDT by WestCoastGal ( Ted Cruz is our last chance to save America !!! TedCruz.org Please donate.)
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To: WestCoastGal

When I initially read this on The Market-ticker, among the comments accompanying it were those by people who had worked at HP or contractors who were associated with HP and/or Compaq.

None of them had anything complimentary to say about Carly Fiorina.


19 posted on 09/02/2015 8:12:37 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: SatinDoll

My reasons for not supporting her have nothing to do with her time at HP. I don’t think she’s a real conservative - she’s a California conservative - and I don’t think she is offering any real solutions. She seems to be interviewing more for the veep spot than the top spot and I don’t see what she brings to the ticket.


20 posted on 09/02/2015 8:16:41 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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