The above is important. Sen.McCain is even disrespectful to his constituents, and he is their servant within the government.
Thank you for your post.
And thank you for your service to this country (I see from previous threads you served in the Navy).
There have always been whispers, both in and out of the service, about McCain's hero status. Certainly, his "performance" as Senator has long since erased any herioism he may have had while in uniform.
McCain has enough political pull to have announced publically on Thursday that the flag on the WH should be flown at half mast for the 4 Marines murdered by the Islamic terrorist..
The 4 Marines were murdered before 11 AM ...by the afternoon the flag should have been lowered..
Why hasn’t the “hero” McCain condemned Obama for not ordering it lowered ???
A hero defends and stands up for his fellow soldiers...
with his life..
McCain would not have been risking his life...physically or politically..
Here are the facts as we know them:
According to Colonel Ted Guy, John McCains commander as a POW, McCain collaborated with the enemy.
McCain is accused of giving information that led to the downing of 60 US aircraft
McCain is accused of training North Vietnamese air defense personnel
McCain is accused of making over 30 propaganda broadcasts against the US, broadcasts he moved to have classified when he was elected to the senate
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/20/trump-opens-mccains-treasonous-can-of-worms/
Right or wrong, as long as maclame has been “knighted” as a hero, they’re gonna dog the Donald. I respect maclame’s service but I’m not sure he respects his constituents service. I’m sure a lot of folks he ‘represents’ are also war heros but no front page coverage of them.
John Mccain Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8
Trump has no right to talk about any Veteran more or less a former POW. Trump was a draft dodger who took advantage of deferments. In addition to that, I guess all politicians have to have a certain amount of ego to do what they do, but I find Trump to be the most self possessed and egotistical candidate in my memory. He may raise some good issues, but that shouldn’t be the only qualification to be President and Commander in Chief. Hitler raised some good issues that mobilized the German people. We know how that turned out.
Really?
His commander while in captivity, MoH recipient ADM James Stockdale, saw it differently.
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NY Times
November 26, 1999
John McCain in the Crucible
By JAMES B. STOCKDALE
CORONADO, Calif. I am not surprised by reports that Senator John McCains political enemies have been spreading rumors that his famous temper is a sign of a broader instability caused by his imprisonment in Vietnam.
In fact, a few weeks ago I received a call from an old friend who is also close to the George W. Bush campaign soliciting comments on Mr. McCains weaknesses. As I told that caller, I think John McCain is solid as a rock.
And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of a man who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left leg broken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.
He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
There was a special cramped and hot privy-like structure in that Hanoi prison reserved for whichever American was causing the Vietnamese the most trouble. I was the first in the camp to be locked up in it, and I gave it the name Calcutta.
There was only room for one person at a time in the cage, and after a couple of months I was taken out and marched back to a regular cell. As I limped along, I sneaked a peek at my replacement: John McCain, hobbling along on his own bad leg.
As one of the few Americans who spent more than four years in solitary confinement during that war, I know that pride and self-respect lead to aggressiveness, and aggressiveness leads to a deep sense of joy when one is under pressure. This is hardly a character flaw.
The military psychiatrists who periodically examine former prisoners of war have found that the more resistant a man was to harsh treatment, the more emotionally stable he is likely to become later in life.
The troublemakers who endured long stretches in solitary, the men we called the tigers, are for the most part more in tune with themselves now than are those who chose the easier path of nonconfrontation, which made them deserving of cell mates. The psychiatrists tell us that many of those prisoners who chose a more docile existence missed out on the joy of getting even after release; some look back on their performances with regret.
The psychiatrists have it partly right, but the truth of imprisonment is best learned from the writings of men who have spent a lot of time in cells, like Dostoyevsky, Cervantes and Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. The last described his feeling of high-mindedness in his gulag writings:
And it was only when I lay there on rotting prison straw that I sensed within myself the first stirrings of good. Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either but right through every human heart and through all human hearts. . . .
And that is why I turn back to the years of my imprisonment and say, sometimes to the astonishment of those about me: Bless you, prison!
I understand that, and so does John McCain.
Let’s face it, John McCain was a perfumed prince of privilege in military circles.
He wound up playing Madonna’s part in “Swept Away” when his plane crashed.
He deserves no more respect than she does.
John McCain in the Crucible
New York Times
By JAMES B. STOCKDALE
November 26, 1999
[Excerpt:]
And I consider it blasphemy to smudge the straight-arrow prisoner-of-war record of a man who was near death when he arrived at Hoa Loa prison 1967: both arms broken, left leg broken, left shoulder broken by a civilian with a rifle butt.
He was eventually taken to the same rat-infested hospital room I had occupied two years earlier, and, like me, he had surgery on his leg. By then the Vietnamese had discovered that his father was the ranking admiral in the Pacific Fleet, and he received an offer that, as far as I know, was made to no other American prisoner: immediate release, no strings attached. He refused, thereby sentencing himself to four more years in a cell.
Trump on the other hand was running away from the war, partying in College with his millionare daddy’s money.
Yep McCain is a despicable person who had a disastrous military record until he got shot down and captured. If it was not for the Hanoi Hilton he would have been drummed out of the service and been a nobody.
In public life McCain has disgraced himself as part of the Keating Five where he was as guilty as sin but got off with a censure. He has never been a loyal republican and has betrayed his part and his constituents for 30 plus years. In all that time the only real piece of legislation he got passed was McCain/Feingold arguably the worst piece of legislation ever passed.
Trump never should have even lowered himself to respond to the real Whacko bird.
THE DAY JOHN McCAIN GOT SHOT DOWN!
Long and very detailed account of how his failure to follow procedure got him shot down!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3314642/posts
Abandoning the wife who stood by him says more about his character than anything else in his life.