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New study: Electric cars may be worse for the environment than gas-powered
Washington Examiner via The Right Scoop via Young Conservatives ^ | June 23, 2015 | By Jason Russell Washington Examiner (via Sooper Mexican via Michael Cantrell)

Posted on 06/23/2015 3:45:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

One of the big schemes liberals have for totally destroying America — you might think I’m being overdramatic, but if you study their ideology you’ll see I’m right — is to gain more control over businesses through regulation and redistribute wealth.

Since the American economy is still somewhat a free market system, the government needs to find a legally legit way to create these regulations, fines, taxes, and penalties.

And now you know exactly why the government “cares so much about the environment” and is constantly pushing man made climate change. It’s their way into the private sector.

These same hippie-dippie liberals are also big fans of the electric car, and it’s “positive impact” on the environment, often posting pictures of their smug faces on social media as they putter around town.

Well, I got some bad news for those folks…

From Washington Examiner:

Electric cars are worse for the environment per mile than comparable gasoline-powered cars, according to a new study published by the National Bureau of Economic Research. This contradicts the common assumption that electric cars are cleaner. In spite of this, the federal government still pays $7,500 for every electric car purchased — a subsidy the nation would be better off without, say the authors.

The study was authored by four economics and business professors: Stephen Holland (University of North Carolina, Greensboro), Erin Mansur (Dartmouth College), Nicholas Muller (Middlebury College) and Andrew Yates (University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill).

In monetary terms, electric cars are about half-a-cent worse per mile for the environment than gas-powered cars, on average. This means that if a government wants to tax a car based on how much it pollutes, electric cars should be taxed half of one cent more per mile driven than gasoline cars.

Do you hear that strange popping noise?

That’s the sound of liberal bubbles bursting all across the country.

Fantastic sound, isn’t it?

If you decide to share this with a liberal friend, be sure to pass them some tissues. They might break down in sobs.

H/T The Right Scoop


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To: SamAdams76

One question: Where does electricity come from, and why do you think it’s free?


21 posted on 06/23/2015 5:07:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Free? You are crazy. Electricity is not free.


22 posted on 06/23/2015 5:12:12 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Electric cars fit the narrative, that’s all that matters.


23 posted on 06/23/2015 5:21:27 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: SamAdams76

Then why is a mythical electric car so much better than one powered by an internal combustion engine?

An electric car is nothing more than a car powered by an external combustion engine.


25 posted on 06/23/2015 5:22:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

the electric car is powered by coal,
not oil from the Middle East.


26 posted on 06/23/2015 5:38:05 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: RockyTx

You do understand that Obola is keeping his promise of driving coal-fired power plants out of business, right?


27 posted on 06/23/2015 5:43:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: RockyTx
"who is your friend, pick one...
(a) OPEC, or
(b) the Electric Car"

Answer (c) - none of the above.

28 posted on 06/23/2015 6:14:24 PM PDT by norton
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You are like the guy from 1912 saying what’s wrong with my good old horse and buggy. Technology marches on.


29 posted on 06/23/2015 6:31:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
As a chemist, I just fail to see how burning fuel to power a generator to generate electricity to charge a battery to run an electric motor to propel a vehicle can possibly be more efficient than burning fuel to directly power a motor that propels a vehicle.

It's called "thermodynamics." Ever hear of it?

30 posted on 06/23/2015 6:54:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SamAdams76
Electric or battery powered cars are still in their infancy and the technology will improve quickly.
Conservatives should be all over this.

I know few conservatives who oppose electric cars simply because the are electric....the performance and technology are pretty impressive, although very heavy on subsystems & circuitry that remains fallible.

What's at issue is the official mandate to convert from internal combustion based transport before the performance of, and infrastructure for, electric vehicles is available...and before research has a chance to determine that there is no better alternative.

(It doesn't help that we've been through E85 fuel mandates and the poison California only additive fiascoes.)

31 posted on 06/23/2015 7:30:21 PM PDT by norton
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Dear Mr. "I'm a chemist" with the condescending attitude:

People smarter than you or I are investing billions in alternative sources of energy. You seem to have taken the "settled science" approach in that gas-powered internal combustion engines are as good as it's ever going to get with respect to automobiles.

However, I'm thinking the real issue here is that you have accepted the narrative that anybody talking about "electric cars" is pushing some kind of Leftist liberal agenda.

You seem to associate electric cars with smug yuppies from San Francisco who wear goatees and sip on $7 lattes while tooling around the Bay Area in their Teslas and Priuses with a superior attitude about them. You would rather put the brakes on this technological progress in order to "wipe the smug smiles" off their faces.

You are taking this WAY too personal.

What I'm saying is to stop ceding progress to liberals. Conservatives should be championing new technologies and progress, not fighting against it because they perceive liberals as "getting a victory".

Let's get involved and claim the victory for ourselves.

Granted an internal combustion engine still kicks butt. But that does not mean we should stop trying to develop something that could turn out to be even better. Even if today, it's not better.

Imagine if the world gave up on aviation because they thought that that ugly noisy contraption built by the Wright Brothers that barely got 20 feet off the ground at Kitty Hawk was not as efficient as hot air balloons for getting up into the air.

32 posted on 06/23/2015 7:32:14 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

There comes a time, when political idealism, outweighs true technological progress. If the “well money, smart ones” have great progress in doing anything to advance Our Lives- then let us see their cards. With no strings attached. You will never see that real ideal- except in advertisement, via everything you think you are looking at. No matter- what. This is the reason, socialist-fascism, is finally pimping/working globally. As a true deception.


33 posted on 06/23/2015 7:50:59 PM PDT by RedHeeler (...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

so what?

nuke and natural gas,

lots better than OPEC and Exxon


34 posted on 06/23/2015 7:51:49 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Imagine that.


35 posted on 06/23/2015 8:40:54 PM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: RockyTx

Where did you get your engineering degree?


36 posted on 06/24/2015 5:22:04 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: SamAdams76
You're the one taking it "personally." About 5000 words worth.

There is nothing magic about an electric car. You still get the energy from somewhere, and you have to store it somewhere. Storing electricity in a battery or a graphened buckyball supercapacitor or anything you can think of will always be less efficient than using the energy directly.

37 posted on 06/24/2015 5:26:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Reaganez
My Tesla...

I guess you owe us all a "thank you" then...

38 posted on 06/24/2015 8:12:59 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: Reaganez

Okay! so electric cars are great and will get better over time. gasoline cars will never get any better and are just marking time until they turn into unrecyclable trash. Funny though, I am getting 35 miles per gallon in my eight year old Pontiac. And tell me again why the Govt has to subsidize electric cars with $7,500 just to sell the few that does get sold.

It is good that your Tesla will run on any American electricity because my Pontiac will run on any gasoline in the whole world. Gasoline needs petroleum and electric cars needs electricity power by coal, natural gas, or some other source.

I fail to understand your logic for electric cars that is materially different from gasoline cars.


39 posted on 06/24/2015 8:34:33 AM PDT by dirtymac
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To: colorado tanker

In predominantly corn growing states
, the consensus is ethanol is wonderful.


40 posted on 06/24/2015 5:10:03 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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