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New study: Electric cars may be worse for the environment than gas-powered
Washington Examiner via The Right Scoop via Young Conservatives ^ | June 23, 2015 | By Jason Russell Washington Examiner (via Sooper Mexican via Michael Cantrell)

Posted on 06/23/2015 3:45:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

One of the big schemes liberals have for totally destroying America — you might think I’m being overdramatic, but if you study their ideology you’ll see I’m right — is to gain more control over businesses through regulation and redistribute wealth.

Since the American economy is still somewhat a free market system, the government needs to find a legally legit way to create these regulations, fines, taxes, and penalties.

And now you know exactly why the government “cares so much about the environment” and is constantly pushing man made climate change. It’s their way into the private sector.

These same hippie-dippie liberals are also big fans of the electric car, and it’s “positive impact” on the environment, often posting pictures of their smug faces on social media as they putter around town.

Well, I got some bad news for those folks…

From Washington Examiner:

Electric cars are worse for the environment per mile than comparable gasoline-powered cars, according to a new study published by the National Bureau of Economic Research. This contradicts the common assumption that electric cars are cleaner. In spite of this, the federal government still pays $7,500 for every electric car purchased — a subsidy the nation would be better off without, say the authors.

The study was authored by four economics and business professors: Stephen Holland (University of North Carolina, Greensboro), Erin Mansur (Dartmouth College), Nicholas Muller (Middlebury College) and Andrew Yates (University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill).

In monetary terms, electric cars are about half-a-cent worse per mile for the environment than gas-powered cars, on average. This means that if a government wants to tax a car based on how much it pollutes, electric cars should be taxed half of one cent more per mile driven than gasoline cars.

Do you hear that strange popping noise?

That’s the sound of liberal bubbles bursting all across the country.

Fantastic sound, isn’t it?

If you decide to share this with a liberal friend, be sure to pass them some tissues. They might break down in sobs.

H/T The Right Scoop


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1 posted on 06/23/2015 3:45:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But, but, there is a “consensus” that electric cars are better, right?


2 posted on 06/23/2015 3:48:38 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s not about whether it’s better, it’s how it makes you feel.

Even the Pope is thinking this way.


3 posted on 06/23/2015 3:53:03 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k

He’s the pope, why does he need to feel good about himself?

Never mind, no need to answer.


4 posted on 06/23/2015 3:58:21 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; truthguy; LogicDesigner

Ping to the “prophets of ohm” who pushed and propagandized for EV’s.
They, or their retread personas, can come and weep.


5 posted on 06/23/2015 3:58:34 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: cicero2k

Liberals will disregard this and simply call the authors green car deniers. When liberals cant silence the opposition, the next step is total destruction of them.


6 posted on 06/23/2015 3:59:18 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Sasparilla
The average liberal thinks that electric cars are simply powered by "free" energy.

And why not?

They just plug them in.

Then ask them where that "free" electricity comes from.

It ain't solar power!

7 posted on 06/23/2015 4:08:33 PM PDT by boop (Hey, stoop, that's got gears. It ain't no Ford.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just be aware that the National Bureau of Economic Research is a private organization. The name implies it is part of the federal government.


8 posted on 06/23/2015 4:08:55 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

bttt


9 posted on 06/23/2015 4:09:17 PM PDT by petercooper (And I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus... Rollin' down Highway 41.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

who is your friend, pick one...

OPEC
or.
the Electric Car


10 posted on 06/23/2015 4:13:31 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They will not believe.

Math, science, and logic are not their friends.

After all, they are liberals.

We STEM types call our F students future liberal politicians.


11 posted on 06/23/2015 4:14:13 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Funny they don’t publish the assumptions made or the particulars of this study.

I am willing to bet they are full of shit.

One thing is certain as electric cars get older they get cleaner because the grid gets cleaner.

As a gasoline powered car gets older,the engine loses compression, and it gets dirtier.

My Tesla is made of aluminum. Won’t rust.

No vibrating ICE to shake the unibody into a wobbly POS.

And electric cars can be powered by any American electric source. Wind,Nuclear,Hydro, Solar, and Natural Gas.

Gasoline powered cars need petroleum. Leaving their drivers and America as whole subject to the whims of the global oil markets and dictators in the Kremlin and Saudi Arabia.

Batteries can and will be recycled and repurposed.

Used auto grade batteries are basically high grade ore.

You can’t recycle gasoline or diesel.


12 posted on 06/23/2015 4:14:32 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Today in Tennessee we learned of a push for a new gas tax to pay for road maintenance.

We ave well maintained roads but the current revenue stream is becoming inadequate to keep up.We don’t have the problem of misappropriation of highway funds for light rail etc.
Gas tax revenues as compared to miles driven have been significantly reduced

Increased mpg values and electric and hybrid electric cars and natural gas fueled vehicles don’t pay their fair share.


13 posted on 06/23/2015 4:15:04 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As an engineer with a master’s degree in mechanical engineering, I knew that from day 1. Because electric power plants are long distance away from the cities where electric cars are in use. There are large power losses in transmission of electrical power from the power plant to the user’s home. Whereas in a modern gasoline powered engine, the power generated is right where it is being used. And the gas consumption rate is instantaneously and constantly adjusted to exact needs at the moment. The remote electric power plant can never be fine tuned to the exact needs of electric cars at every moment. So the power plant keeps burning fuel even if demand has dropped.


14 posted on 06/23/2015 4:17:29 PM PDT by entropy12 (I always see glass half full. I see something good in all people, even the RINO's!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Everything was fine until TCR introduced the jam car.


15 posted on 06/23/2015 4:23:19 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And ethanol is not the sure fire environmental winner it was sold to be. Pretty marginal benefits if any, so far.


16 posted on 06/23/2015 4:27:50 PM PDT by Will88
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To: boop

“The average liberal thinks that electric cars are simply powered by “free” energy.”

The only way that electric cars would make any sense is if the electricity came from a source that didn’t use fossil fuels, like nuclear! The other thing that pi$$es me off is that they are not paying any road use taxes that are levied on the rest of us when we buy gasoline or diesel.


17 posted on 06/23/2015 4:30:56 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

Noting that its been years since I’ve dealt with energy cycles as a student, operating an electric car is much cleaner than using an internal combustion engine vehicle imo.

The actual problem with electric vehicles where the environment is concerned is the physics of recharging the battery. Because all batteries have internal resistance, charging an electric vehicle’s battery overnight is like running a roughly 1400 watt heater overnight.

So if you’re local power is generated by burning coal, that 1400 watts comes from burned coal.

On the other hand, if you are in the northwest where I understand that electricity is generated mostly hydroelectrically, then electric vehicles may not be such a bad idea.

In fact, since sunlight causes ocean water to form rain clouds, some of the rain winding up in dams equipped with hydroelectric generators, I suppose that it can be argued that electric vehicles used in the rainy areas of the northwest are solar-powered vehicles.

Corrections welcome. As I mentioned, it’s been awhile since I’ve looked at energy cycles.


18 posted on 06/23/2015 4:32:11 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The title is wrong.

Leftists won’t be sobbing. They won’t care about the results or facts.


19 posted on 06/23/2015 4:32:50 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why are we ceding electric automobiles to the radical Left?

This should be a conservative cause. Of course electric cars will at first be less efficient than gas powered. We’ve had over a century now to improve and make the internal combustion engine cleaner and more efficient.

Electric or battery powered cars are still in their infancy and the technology will improve quickly.

Conservatives should be all over this.


20 posted on 06/23/2015 4:38:11 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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