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Jobs elusive for 40% of area poor: Survey respondents still struggling
The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette's Local ^ | May 3, 2015 | Sherry Slater

Posted on 05/03/2015 1:41:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A survey targeting local low-income families has found that 40 percent of respondents felt they have very little or no job security, according to results being released this week.

That kind of instability makes it challenging to commit to car loans, apartment leases and tuition payments – steps often necessary to improving a family’s economic standing.

Of those participating in the survey, more than 1 in 2 has received free groceries or meals and about 1 in 4 has needed help with housing, utilities or health care.

The 502 responses reflect the experiences of those who continue to struggle in northeast Indiana more than five years after the point economists say the Great Recession ended. This was the sixth consecutive year the survey was conducted by members of the Unemployed and Anxiously Employed Workers’ Initiative.

As various politicians kick off their 2016 presidential campaigns, the topic of income inequality is gaining attention. Democrat Hillary Clinton, former senator and secretary of state, has embraced the issue. So have some of her Republican rivals, including Sens. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio.

The widening gap between rich and poor is playing out in a national economy that was largely stagnant in the first quarter of this year.

Feeling the pain

More than 40 percent of those surveyed said the local economy is either in another recession or has entered a fundamental and lasting downturn. Only 30 percent believed an economic recovery is underway. The rest – 28 percent – said they weren’t sure.

Participants were not chosen by random sampling, the scientific method used to ensure statistically valid results. But survey organizers say local leaders can learn from participants’ experiences – even if they can’t use the data to draw conclusions about larger groups of people.

“We want to make sure that those workers, that those individuals, those families that are sometimes left out of the discussion have a voice in the economy,” said Gayle Goodrich, AFL-CIO community services liaison to the United Way of Allen County.

Business leaders, politicians and economists generally dominate the discussion on economic matters, she said.

“But you don’t get to hear from the average worker very often,” Goodrich said.

The methodology differed from another report Goodrich contributed to late last year. She helped compile statistics for Indiana’s first ALICE report, a United Way project. ALICE stands for Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. The group is commonly referred to as the working poor.

That report pulled together data from numerous sources to paint a more three-dimensional picture of struggling families’ lives. The Workers’ Initiative’s survey seeks a similar goal.

Max Montesino, IPFW associate professor of organizational leadership and supervision, praised the local survey.

Few researchers seek out immigrant and refugee populations to learn about their experiences in the economy, he said. “This is a universe of respondents that are very difficult to reach.”

Nuts and bolts

Goodrich plans to share the results with United Way co-workers and partner agencies.

The Workers’ Initiative plans to present its findings publicly at some point and invite elected officials, survey volunteers and respondents who provided contact information.

Even those who don’t work at, volunteer at or contribute to the nonprofits providing services to the surveyed families can make a difference in their lives, Goodrich said. That includes economic development officials.

“I hope that they’ll continue to look for ways to bring better job opportunities into the community and make sure people have the skills to fill those jobs,” she said.

Last fall, hundreds of area residents were invited to fill out the survey. Of the 502 total responses gathered, 347 were completed in English, 56 were done in Spanish and 99 were written in Burmese.

Offering the survey in three languages is time-consuming, organizers said, but allowed some enlightening comparisons.

“The non-English survey participants were less likely to report their household economy was experiencing a downturn and were more optimistic about the next generation’s economic future,” the final report stated.

Goodrich, who has a master’s degree in sociology, was among about two dozen people who drafted questions, collected responses, compiled data and wrote the final report.

The effort was primarily carried out by volunteers, but Goodrich was paid for a portion of her time because the work dovetailed with her United Way responsibilities.

The format was based on a survey conducted by Rutgers University’s School of Planning and Public Policy. Over the years, members of the Workers’ Initiative have consulted a local team of social scientists for guidance while updating questions to address specific areas of interest.

Paper forms were distributed in places where low-income families are likely to be found: food banks, township trustee offices, free church dinners, black barber shops, the local WorkOne office and at the annual Labor Day picnic at Headwaters Park. The survey was also available online.

Responses were solicited from September through November. Survey participants ranged in age from 18 to 99, with 46 as the median age.

Participants were offered the opportunity to enter a drawing for a $50 Kroger gift card, which required providing their name and address. Or they could choose to remain anonymous. Based on contact information provided, organizers know the survey was completed by residents of Whitley, Steuben and Huntington counties in addition to Allen County.

When volunteers crunched the numbers, they found the average and median annual household incomes reported by survey participants was less than 40 percent of the $45,006 median the American Community Survey reported for Allen County. That leads survey organizers to conclude that they succeeded in targeting local low-income households.

What it is

Goodrich doesn’t discount the value of traditional surveys.

But, she said, studies that follow the scientific route can easily miss out on talking to people without phones or addresses.

“I wish we could do a larger sampling … that represents a larger population,” Goodrich said. “But we don’t have the resources to do that. So we target low-income and immigrant populations.”

Workers’ Initiative surveyors included native Spanish- and Burmese-speaking volunteers who reassured participants that they could answer questions without fear of retribution, such as arrest or deportation.

Getting undocumented workers to talk “is impossible without building up good credibility with that population,” said Montesino, who is Latino.

Once results are gathered, Goodrich and others are careful not to draw conclusions unless data firmly back them up.

For example, 36 percent of Burmese respondents indicated they have “a lot of job security.” But the survey was taken a few months before Vera Bradley Inc. announced plans to close its New Haven factory, a decision that put 250 first-shift employees out of work, including numerous Burmese.

Although some people might assume that the Vera Bradley closure would have severely rattled local Burmese residents’ sense of job security, Goodrich isn’t willing to make that leap.

She doesn’t know whether anyone completing the survey was employed by Vera Bradley. And she won’t speculate on potential ripple effects the closure has had on the local immigrant community’s psyche.

Montesino is following Goodrich’s lead by not drawing conclusions about the local Latino population from the survey results, but he has noted some data that could help his efforts to lobby for immigration reform.

Back to that job security question, 33 percent of Spanish-speakers indicated they have no job security at all. In addition, 16 percent of that group said they have very little job security, for a total of almost 50 percent.

Meanwhile, 75 percent of the Burmese survey participants said they have some or a lot of job security.

Montesino said the disparity reflects the fact that the Burmese are political refugees who were given Social Security numbers, work permits and green cards when they were brought to the United States. But many Latinos lack that documentation, forcing them to take any jobs they can find from employers who are willing to break the rules.

“What they have this week might not be available next week,” he said of day work at construction sites or in farm fields.

Next steps

What happens next is anyone’s guess.

Montesino, the IPFW professor, said the survey results provides some insight into local low-income households.

“Those who make policies, who put programs together that impact this community, will have more information to base those decisions on,” he said. “I do see value in this.”

Last year, for example, an AFL-CIO official delivered a copy of the 2013 survey results directly to President Barack Obama. The goal is to make people in power at the local, state and federal levels aware of the everyday struggles of low-income Americans.

Goodrich already is drafting new questions for the survey to be taken this fall.

She wants more specifics from the 49 percent of Burmese respondents who said they or their families need help with “personal problems.” The multiple-choice answers offered last year were too vague to offer insight into what kinds of assistance families need, she said.

Goodrich hopes the community will develop an economy in which all people can achieve their goals and potential.

Other notable findings:

• Spanish-speaking respondents reported median annual household income of $25,000, which was $10,000 a year more than those who completed the survey in English.

• Burmese-speaking participants reported median annual household income of $17,000, which was $2,000 a year more than English speakers.

• American Community Survey median household income figures for Allen County and the U.S. are $45,006 and $52,250, respectively.

• Although more than 60 percent of Spanish- and Burmese-speaking respondents reported having full-time work, less than 20 percent of English-speaking participants reported having full-time jobs.

• More than 20 percent of English-speaking respondents said they have some kind of disability.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; hispanics; immigration; indiana; minorities; poverty; unemployment; wages
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To: kearnyirish2

you are right I’ve been on ssdi and it is VERY had to get rolling again.
Even after a career!!
imagine if you NEVER worked. The fear and comfort of being home and never needing to be anywhere. no discipline to build on.


41 posted on 05/04/2015 2:59:38 PM PDT by dp0622 (Frankie Five Angels: Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.)
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To: dp0622

Even worse, what could they offer an employer? No basic English or math skills...that is why Hispanics take their jobs so easily. I don’t have the hardest job in the world, but it won’t be a Mexican taking it - it will be one of the millions of Asians we’re importing to replace our white-collar workforce.


42 posted on 05/04/2015 3:05:55 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

shhhhh!!!!!!1 you could get called a troll or worse for being an anti capitalist pig for not wanting 10 zillion Indians to come into the country and work for less!!
And now I know they cant vote but the indins that do fvote somewhere between 70 80 percent dem.


43 posted on 05/04/2015 3:07:59 PM PDT by dp0622 (Frankie Five Angels: Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.)
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To: dp0622

Nobody can make the case that the Indian tech coolies are necessary (though I know some try). Years down the road they will be necessary because young Americans are too smart to go into the tech field just to be laid off for an Indian (living in the US); we are still some time away from that point.

BTW, Asians are replacing Americans in the financial sector as well; a lot of middle-aged American guys I worked with at banks and investment managers for years have been replaced with younger, cheaper Asians. The blatant age discrimination is even worse than the assault on American workers.


44 posted on 05/04/2015 3:16:29 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

and people frigging live forever today. My Italian mother and aunts and uncles are pushing 85 and still driving to AC and long island from staten island.
still mooching ss and Medicare. Seeing 35 doctors a week.
And boy are they ever gossiping schoolgirls. you should hear the talk around the poker table at the Jewish rec center.
YOUR 110!!!!!! and you’re still gossiping and worrying bout nonsense!!!
pint is, age discrimination in this day and age is wrong and silly. but I am beginning to see it at 46


45 posted on 05/04/2015 3:22:25 PM PDT by dp0622 (Frankie Five Angels: Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.)
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To: dp0622

I think it is a temporary measure to eliminate higher salaries as our standard of living falls; younger Americans will rarely get well-paying jobs that require replacement by foreigners (BTW, I think this is what is driving a lot of the push to increase minimum wages - a lot of Americans will be working those jobs their whole lives). I’ve stated on other forums that as soon as Americans are earning about $40-50K, forces are scrambling behind the scenes to either send the work elsewhere or bring foreigners here to do it.

Younger Americans, without families, houses, or cars, will simply adjust to $9/hour jobs for the long term - and they will be the last generation of Americans.


46 posted on 05/04/2015 3:29:51 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I know a few. Thank goodness a lot of my friend’s kid are electricians, plumbers, cops, firemen, and a few in college, the only thing is we are paying for most of these jobs and what would electrician be making if not for unions


47 posted on 05/04/2015 3:36:20 PM PDT by dp0622 (Frankie Five Angels: Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.)
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To: dp0622

The trades are definitely hurting, and those unions jobs are getting scarce. Government employment is risky because many areas like NJ simply don’t have the money to hire anyone. A friend who went to college to be a teacher ended up going to nursing school because he couldn’t get a job teaching; he has been working for years now as a nurse.


48 posted on 05/04/2015 3:46:53 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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