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Confederate Memorial Day in the South
Canada Free Press ^ | 04/22/15 | Calvin E. Johnson Jr.

Posted on 04/22/2015 7:51:55 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

Confederate History and Heritage Month

Tennessee Senator Edward Ward Carmack said it best in 1903:

“The Confederate Soldiers were our kinfolk and our heroes. We testify to the country our enduring fidelity to their memory. We commemorate their valor and devotion. There were some things that were not surrendered at Appomattox. We did not surrender our rights and history; nor was it one of the conditions of surrender that unfriendly lips should be suffered to tell the story of that war or that unfriendly hands should write the epitaphs of the Confederate dead. We have the right to teach our children the true history of the war, the causes that led up to it and the principles involved.”

Southerners continue to remember the men and women of the Old Confederacy throughout the year but Confederate Memorial Day is even more special to us when old times are not forgotten.

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: confederatememorial; history
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To: Pelham
Incredibly, this was meant to flatter him.


81 posted on 04/22/2015 10:25:46 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: rockrr

It does, which is why you don’t understand it.


82 posted on 04/22/2015 11:38:29 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Salamander
I see a pattern...


83 posted on 04/22/2015 11:47:27 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Verginius Rufus

The mechanization of agriculture by 1900 would have been a death blow to slavery. The worst blow of all to the South after the war was the death of Lincoln. He likely could have controlled the radicals in Congress and favored sending free blacks back to Africa. He also said repeatedly that the South had only to meet minimum requirements to return to the union. Having said all of that, slavery was the most catastrophic mistake this country ever made and will likely destroy us in the end. Bringing Africans to these shores was a horrible mistake in hindsight. Likely a fatal mistake.


84 posted on 04/23/2015 5:44:21 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Pelham

The only point you’ve managed to show so far is the one atop your head.


85 posted on 04/23/2015 6:08:30 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: armydawg505
Undoubtedly Lincoln would have handled the politics of Reconstruction better than Andrew Johnson because he was a much better politician and had much more personal prestige after having led the Union to victory, but he was having a hard time with the Radicals already. Initially some of the Radical Republicans were relieved at Lincoln's death because they thought Johnson was more of their way of thinking.

The problems facing the South were immense. Short of massive land confiscation, or the federal government buying up large amounts of land to redistribute to the freedmen, there was no way to set up all the former slaves with their own farms (their preference).

It was a principle of common law that ordinary citizens can't be punished for obeying the government actually in power (that dates back to the Wars of the Roses), so it would have been hard to justify seizing property from ordinary Southerners, not to mention the tremendous opposition and hatred that would have generated--a sure formula for guaranteeing that the Union never got back to normal.

Behind it all was racism, an unrecognized problem--both Northerners and Southerners had grown up with racial attitudes which precluded seeing blacks as equal to whites, and for the federal government to go to great lengths for the former slaves would be a losing political program for the Republicans in the North. In the period just after the war, several Northern states rejected giving black men the vote.

The Southern whites accepted the fact they had lost the war and that slavery was over, but as someone put it at the time, they felt that the black race as a whole belonged to the white race as a whole (instead of individual black people belonging to individual whites), and they wanted the free blacks to continue to work for the whites. That, in part, was what the Black Codes were all about.

Colonization in Africa was totally impractical. Very few black Americans wanted to leave. Lincoln experimented with colonization during the war (on an island off Haiti) and it was a disaster.

86 posted on 04/23/2015 6:31:24 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: armydawg505
Undoubtedly Lincoln would have handled the politics of Reconstruction better than Andrew Johnson because he was a much better politician and had much more personal prestige after having led the Union to victory, but he was having a hard time with the Radicals already. Initially some of the Radical Republicans were relieved at Lincoln's death because they thought Johnson was more of their way of thinking.

The problems facing the South were immense. Short of massive land confiscation, or the federal government buying up large amounts of land to redistribute to the freedmen, there was no way to set up all the former slaves with their own farms (their preference).

It was a principle of common law that ordinary citizens can't be punished for obeying the government actually in power (that dates back to the Wars of the Roses), so it would have been hard to justify seizing property from ordinary Southerners, not to mention the tremendous opposition and hatred that would have generated--a sure formula for guaranteeing that the Union never got back to normal.

Behind it all was racism, an unrecognized problem--both Northerners and Southerners had grown up with racial attitudes which precluded seeing blacks as equal to whites, and for the federal government to go to great lengths for the former slaves would be a losing political program for the Republicans in the North. In the period just after the war, several Northern states rejected giving black men the vote.

The Southern whites accepted the fact they had lost the war and that slavery was over, but as someone put it at the time, they felt that the black race as a whole belonged to the white race as a whole (instead of individual black people belonging to individual whites), and they wanted the free blacks to continue to work for the whites. That, in part, was what the Black Codes were all about.

Colonization in Africa was totally impractical. Very few black Americans wanted to leave. Lincoln experimented with colonization during the war (on an island off Haiti) and it was a disaster.

87 posted on 04/23/2015 6:31:24 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: armydawg505
The mechanization of agriculture by 1900 would have been a death blow to slavery.

Cotton farming wasn't mechanized until the 1940s.

88 posted on 04/23/2015 10:54:19 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Pelham

LMAO, Pelham!


89 posted on 04/23/2015 10:56:47 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: Salamander

LOL!

The hair kind of reminds me of Johnny the Human Torch.


90 posted on 04/23/2015 10:58:27 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: Verginius Rufus; armydawg505
Good post. And some often ignored history of the treatment of blacks in the North can be found here

An excellent new book on the polarization that led to the war is Thomas Fleming's A Disease in the Public Mind: A New Understanding of Why We Fought the Civil War

91 posted on 04/23/2015 12:15:13 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Pelham
Alexis de Tocgueville in Democracy in America expressed the opinion that racial prejudice was stronger in states where slavery had been abolished. He was in Philadelphia on an election day and noticed that no black men were coming to vote. They could vote legally but they were afraid to exercise their right to vote.
92 posted on 04/23/2015 3:18:35 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Charles Martel

Whiskeypapa was probably the biggest troll POS to ever disgrace Free Republic.’Regal is a close second.


93 posted on 04/23/2015 6:51:52 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Everyone is someone’s troll - even you.


94 posted on 04/23/2015 7:49:58 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Go f yourself you worthless POS! Your bigotry to our Fellow Freepers from the South is sickening.


95 posted on 04/23/2015 8:26:53 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

You kiss your mama with that mouth?


96 posted on 04/23/2015 8:40:35 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Piss off. Your kind are not worth conversing with.


97 posted on 04/23/2015 8:42:27 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Is that the best you got?


98 posted on 04/23/2015 8:43:00 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

FU. You hatred for the South (which is the most conservative part of the country) could only be matched by the elitist scum we l hate on the left.


99 posted on 04/23/2015 8:47:18 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Man you have yourself some real anger issues!


100 posted on 04/23/2015 8:48:16 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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