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To: Art in Idaho
At this point, do you really think Congress will abide by the law and allow a constitutional convention? My suspicion is that regardless of whether we get 2/3 of the states to move for one, a con-con will never happen because congress, the courts, and the emperor will simply refuse to acknowledge it. They may, in fact, spin the states' votes into 'articles of secession' as a predication for dissolving the constitutional republic and replacing it with a true centralized tyrannical government.

Don't forget that a majority of American voters were stupid enough to elect- and REELECT this POS president. They can be led by the nose to believe pretty much anything the government wants them to believe.

I have completely given up on any notion that the existing government is even remotely interested in doing the right thing- even when the majority of states provide a constitutional mandate for it.

What congress did yesterday was tantamount to a declaration of war against all American citizens in every state.

Now the question is: regardless of what the states may choose to do, what are we AMERICANS going to do?

5 posted on 03/04/2015 12:39:42 PM PST by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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To: 60Gunner

My personal opinion on your question is that no one in the federal government will abide by any amendments that would come from such a convention.

Laws are for the law abiding, and that does not describe this government at all.

However, I still think this final civil step is worth trying. It is the right thing to do to say that we tried all tools at are disposal to fix this before we had no choice but to...

And the time to do this convention is right now, today. there simply is no more time. Our government is completely insane and utterly corrupt.


9 posted on 03/04/2015 12:48:10 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: 60Gunner
My suspicion is that regardless of whether we get 2/3 of the states to move for one, a con-con will never happen because congress, the courts, and the emperor will simply refuse to acknowledge it. They may, in fact, spin the states' votes into 'articles of secession' as a predication for dissolving the constitutional republic and replacing it with a true centralized tyrannical government. . What congress did yesterday was tantamount to a declaration of war against all American citizens in every state.

Now the question is: regardless of what the states may choose to do, what are we AMERICANS going to do?

I have the same fears you have. I still think we have to forge ahead with Article V. If they ignore the petition from 34 states to form a Convention of States, then it truly is a declaration of war and it will be time to form up. .

11 posted on 03/04/2015 12:49:14 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: 60Gunner
I suppose I'm a radical in this regard, for I think the states do not need permission from congress to meet in convention.

Still, you are correct in assuming DC will likely deny enough applications exist to call a convention, for more than enough exist now.

Congress’ Present Duty to Call a Convention:

Part I
Part II
Part III
Part IV
Part V
Part VI

14 posted on 03/04/2015 12:59:37 PM PST by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: 60Gunner
Now the question is: regardless of what the states may choose to do, what are we AMERICANS going to do?

History provides a simple answer to your question. People, on the average, will do nothing until the pain of not doing becomes higher than the pain of doing.

19 posted on 03/04/2015 1:18:41 PM PST by Greysard
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To: 60Gunner
Don't forget that a majority of American voters were stupid enough to elect- and REELECT this POS president

elect, yes. Re-elect? I'm not so sure. I'm convinced there was massive vote fraud in 2012.

26 posted on 03/04/2015 1:58:45 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (Book RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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