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If Giuliani’s Obama Smear Wasn’t Racist, What Was It?
New York Magazine ^ | February 20, 2015 | Jonathan Chait

Posted on 02/22/2015 9:11:28 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

When Rudy Giuliani accused President Obama of not loving America, was he expressing a form of racism? If not, what was Giuliani saying?

I have argued, controversially to some on the left, that it is important to grapple with ideas on their own terms before merely analyzing their motivations. American conservatism is historically intertwined with white racism in such a way that nearly any conservative idea could plausibly be understood as an appeal to racism, but most of those ideas can be expressed and justified in non-racial terms, and deserve to be taken at face value. The trouble with Giuliani’s comments is that they lack the coherence necessary to be analyzed as an idea. Brush away the bilious rage he has emitted, and nothing solid remains behind.

The original basis for Giuliani’s comments was Obama’s allegedly unusual upbringing. “He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up, through love of this country,” alleged the former mayor. As Wayne Barrett points out, Giuliani’s father was a mob enforcer, and he and his five brothers all avoided military service during World War II. What about this upbringing in any way suggests it conveyed some deeper patriotism than Obama’s?

Giuliani subsequently clarified his original remarks, though not in the way he intended, by asserting that Obama’s alleged anti-Americanism amounted to “socialism or possibly anti-colonialism.” Here Giuliani is reprising the theories of Dinesh D’Souza, who has described Obama as fundamentally influenced by Kenyan anti-colonialism. Unfortunately for Giuliani, D’Souza’s racism is so transparent not even many conservatives care to defend it any longer....

(Excerpt) Read more at nymag.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: accurate; giuliani; newyork; obama; rudygiuliani; scottwalker; spoton; wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy Jonathan chait must be racist. He’s writing negative things about people other than himself. Projecting racism on others is a pretty good indicator he whom projects is what he projects.


21 posted on 02/22/2015 9:20:11 AM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Truth based on observation.

It’s really very simple.


22 posted on 02/22/2015 9:21:25 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rudy was sounding off an alarm.


23 posted on 02/22/2015 9:22:49 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
American conservatism is historically intertwined with white racism in such a way that nearly any conservative idea could plausibly be understood as an appeal to racism, but most of those ideas can be expressed and justified in non-racial terms, and deserve to be taken at face value.

If Jonathan Chait's article is not moronic, what is it?

24 posted on 02/22/2015 9:23:44 AM PST by Maceman
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

....Or rather both Obama and the liberals were caught let’s just say “lying” and with longer noses over the last couple of weeks.


25 posted on 02/22/2015 9:24:43 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: tomkat
#BlackLiesMatter
26 posted on 02/22/2015 9:24:57 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not racist. There are plenty of whites who don't love America. Obozo’s good buddy Bill Ayers is one.
27 posted on 02/22/2015 9:26:53 AM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What was it? The truth.


28 posted on 02/22/2015 9:27:08 AM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

             

29 posted on 02/22/2015 9:27:16 AM PST by tomkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m waiting for examples of Obama loving America, but I don’t have all life.


30 posted on 02/22/2015 9:27:30 AM PST by AU72
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What does the left call it when outing a White Leftist Communist for being a Communist?
Their racist argument is because they have nothing to prove Obama isn't, from 6-years of evidence.
And his upbringing of being around Communists shows the reality of his true faith, Muslim Communism.
31 posted on 02/22/2015 9:28:50 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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32 posted on 02/22/2015 9:28:58 AM PST by MtnMan101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry,but your race card has expired.

Please dial 1-800-EAT -SH** to speak to a representative.


33 posted on 02/22/2015 9:29:12 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Perfect example of how an individual can become so entangled in their own intellect that chaos soon overcomes what might have started out as symmetry and order. The result is absolute idiocy.


34 posted on 02/22/2015 9:29:14 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FREE SPEECH ..!!!!!!


35 posted on 02/22/2015 9:29:59 AM PST by CyberAnt ("The hope and changey stuff did not work, even a smidgen.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Chait, I’ll make it easier for you:

Obama loves America in the same way Bill Clinton loves marital fidelity.


36 posted on 02/22/2015 9:30:32 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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37 posted on 02/22/2015 9:32:08 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Brush away the bilious rage he has emitted, and nothing solid remains behind.


Oh Contrare.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=obama+is+a++muslim

Obama is performing Taqiyya.


38 posted on 02/22/2015 9:32:36 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have gotten so automatic about whipping out that race-card at the drop of a hat, they fail to see how stupid it makes them look.


39 posted on 02/22/2015 9:33:36 AM PST by capt. norm (Don't worry if plan A fails, there are 25 more letters in the alphabet.)
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To: Lady Heron

... and yet it is, in fact, the Democrat Party whose “ideas are entwined with racism” ... throughout the party’s history.


40 posted on 02/22/2015 9:34:05 AM PST by glennaro
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