Posted on 02/15/2015 9:08:46 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
Using Agitprop and elements of the Delphi propaganda method (3), lethal Home Owners Associations (HOAs) are moving north out of huge Miami-Fort Lauderdale territories up along Floridas I-95 corridor to take over more and more personal property rights of unsuspecting homeowners in gated, HOA communities. And the effects are not pretty! Resetting the default position. . .exploits the structure of the choice to encourage a more desirable option, says Cass R. Sunstein, author of the book NUDGE. (1) Employed by the Obama Administration as a regulatory czar, it was Sunsteins job to have the American people do what the government wanted them to do, all the while believing it was actually their own idea!
A heuristic is a term applied to getting a student or other type of governmental human unit to do what government wants them to do by programing certain choices involving quick decisions and empirical thought processes rather than theory based decision. Most conservatives should be quite aware of the United Nations inspired Agenda 21, Seven/50 attempts to take over private property of unsuspecting Americans. Choice Architecture, a devastating term developed by Sunstein and co-author Richard Thaler, is defined this way: If you want a person to reach a desirable outcome and you cant change the heuristic shes following, then you have to meddle with the choice architecture, setting up one that when matched with the given heuristic delivers the desirable (for govt) outcome, writes the former Obama czar. (2) Nudging HOA residents along the path of cessation of private property rights plays into big government agendas!
Remnants of Agenda 21 are destroying the peace of neighborhoods and towns in South Florida. All along the coast, citizens and local governments are being traumatized by the All Aboard Florida project that seeks to run at least 32 trains...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
“Thats easy. They dont read it before they sign it.”
In my case, we were given outdated CC&Rs with no mention of an HOA. The revised ones, which we did not see for several years, allowed the formation of an HOA but did not mandate it. During a time when the ownership of many lots was locked up in a court battle, a majority of the remaining lots voted to start the HOA. That was the first time I saw the revised CC&Rs.
My realtor had died in the meantime, so suing him wasn’t an option. I guess I could have sued the title company, but I had never lived in an HOA and it didn’t seem worth the fight at the time.
I have a lot less sympathy for someone who buys into an HOA and then complains. We had looked at building a home in one area, but the CC&Rs required HOA permission just to plant a tree - the rules ran close to 100 pages. So we didn’t buy...but those who did would have no right to complain.
That's INSANE! But there's always a Democrat somewhere...
As an example, before getting involved we were starting to have trouble with trespassers at the pools and "gang-like" activity. Once we got into office we got high fences with keyed locks installed at all the pools and tennis courts, and hired a security service to patrol the property.
Now that I think of it, I bet this would work at the national level as well. The secret is to GET INVOLVED.
But there is a right to free association. (OK; it's been shite-canned; but it supposedly is an American right.) If people want to freely choose to live in an HOA for the benefits of it and are willing to do the work of keeping it free (freedom isn't free; everyone must pitch in), then they have a right to form an association where everyone has the same goal of maintaining property values.
If the whole idea of an HOA is not for you, by no means should you move in and then complain. You would have to put your signature on an agreement to abide by the rules if you buy into an HOA community. People shouldn't sign on and then moan.
There are millions of people who want to live in HOAs.
Why shouldn’t they have the freedom to live with and enjoy other like-minded people?
And that's why people should have an attorney go over their settlement documents. I am a very middle-class homeowever, but even when I was young and starting out before the days of liberal fascism, I always had a lawyer when I bought a property.
All of that is fine - but again, a few anecdotes don’t a case make - besides - I am not making any case other than that HOAs are neither good nor bad inherently - there are good ones, bad ones, those in the middle. And it’s not a rights issue either.
Those are my only points. I am not in an HOA nor do I have any connection to one other than one rental house I own is in one. It’s a real nice neighborhood - houses 400 to 2 million outside Raleigh - and we have no issues with any of the 4 families who have rented it. I realize others have horror stories.
But again, those are anecdotes, nothing inherent.
Doesn't sound right to me. We had a bunch of issues that homeowners were able to overturn because state law overrode the HOA. (Maryland)
They ARE a level of government.
That is the whole point. For you to claim they have nothing to do with government is just plains delusional.
Don’t fall for the lies. Buyers have no choice in some vast areas. It’s either buy a house in one of the many developments with developers’ associations (started by the developers of the developments), or be one of their renters that they perceive as being trashy slaves to be spied upon, abused and robbed.
The so-called “contracts” are automatic and only desired by the few who use them to rob others. Those who like their developers’ associations feel that they have the right to control everyone else’s land. If they want to control all that they see, they should buy at least thousands of acres with their own money.
Developers’ associations should be outlawed and abolished. They’re communistic. Neighbors should mind their own business and stop helping the Lawyer Party creeps at robbing others.
Please point out where I said people should not be able to join an HOA if they wish.
Excepting certain basic human rights, I have no problem with people having the freedom to sign away their rights to others and to then live under their subjugation and control. I just hope no one who joins an HOA expects me to come to their defense when it all goes pear-shaped for them.
I am very familiar with HOAs, and I stand by my comments regarding my personal [lack of] desire to live under one.
I know of quite a few large developments that have been nearly empty for about 40 years, and any buyer of one of the vacant lots in those developments will still be automatically subject to one of the commie HOAs. The commie establishment is happy with that, because it keeps their commie property taxes high by keeping property prices outrageously high. Nearly all of the HOA commies are receiving their incomes directly or indirectly from government.
The longer it’s allowed to go on, the fewer properties without attached developers’ (homeowners’) associations. Eventually, there will be none. A few socialists who lie about being conservative will control all of the country’s properties under 160 acres. That’s what they’re after. In at least some developers’/homeowners’ associations, liens are being put on properties with dues only a few months late.
It’s a monstrous land grab by the political/regulator class commies.
I think most of us here on FR would avoid HOAs but some here would like to make them illegal. That’s silly. It’s like saying I want my freedom but I don’t want those other people to have freedom.
Civic Council for starters, and School boards.
HOA is presented to prospective buyers as a means to keep thier property values up and thier neghborhood pristine but it can turn into a dictatorship
I agree. And I don’t think I said differently.
That is an excellent example. I had an ambiguously platted easment on a property, and it took years to straighten out that it was only for emergency access by the adjacent owners, and not for every Tom, Dick and Harry to traipse through my yard to the public park on beyond. (Guess whose HOA wouldn’t allow the side yard to be fenced?) Ultimately, it was solved by the engineering firm who drew the plat writing a letter clarifying what they should have made more clear, and my insurance agent explaining to the park ranger the park’s liability for funneling traffic through private property and finally the park and the HOA allowed No Trespassing signs. People still try to trespass, but not as many; and the police community relations officer affirmed our right to tell people to leave because it’s posted No Trespassing.
I happily live with a HOA and for the life of me, I couldn't understand one damn word that article was sayin'..........Not a word.
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