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Have We Carefully Thought of the Consequences of Absolute Free Speech?
Enza Ferreri Blog ^ | 26 January 2015 | Enza Ferreri

Posted on 01/26/2015 1:03:50 PM PST by Enza Ferreri

The great defender of Western civilisation Charles Martel who defeated the Muslims would not have allowed Christianity to be mocked or denigrated. Notice the cross, which has to be defended.

This article was published on The Occidental Observer

By Enza Ferreri

One “thought experiment” in the recent – but not yet concluded - debate on freedom of speech surrounding the Charlie Hebdo massacre particularly impressed me:

Here is a thought experiment: Suppose that while the demonstrators stood solemnly at Place de la Republique the other night,… a man stepped out in front… carrying a placard with a cartoon depicting the editor of the magazine lying in a pool of blood, saying, “Well I’ll be a son of a gun!” or “You’ve really blown me away!” or some such witticism. How would the crowd have reacted? Would they have laughed?... He would have been lucky to get away with his life.

Masses of people have turned the victims of a horrific assassination… into heroes of France and free speech. The point of the thought experiment is not to show that such people are hypocrites. Rather, it is to suggest that they don’t know their own minds. They see themselves as committed to the proposition that there are no limits to freedom of expression... But they too have their limits. They just don’t know it.

Perhaps because he’s a philosopher and by profession he's obliged to analyse the logical consistency and theoretical validity of statements, Brian Klug here encapsulates the problem with the default mainstream "Je Suis Charlie" position.

There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech.

Even those who sincerely believe that they uphold this principle often don't realise they wouldn’t be prepared to accept any word expressed in any circumstance.

Similarly, philosophers like Karl Popper maintain that in any debate you cannot question everything. The debaters must share some common assumptions, including the use of the same language and basic definitions of at least some of the main concepts relevant to the discussion.

This corresponds to relativity in the physical world. To establish if and at what speed a train is moving, you need something still to compare it with.

Questioning everything results in chaos, which ultimately means questioning nothing.

This is one of the fallacies often propounded by the so-called "New Atheists" like Richard Dawkins: question everything.

The prevailing ideology of relativism, wedded to the policy of multiculturalism, does something similar to questioning everything, by denying the idea that some doctrines are better than others and rejecting a shared set of belief as a sine qua non for a society.

By believing in everything we believe in nothing. Hence the current confusion about freedom of speech and in particular the failure to recognise exactly when this good is paid for too dearly at the expense of society.

Therefore the discussion shouldn’t be around yes or no to free speech but about what should limit free speech and why.

The best way to do that is to establish the principles and goals to guide our decision about what expressions shouldn’t be permitted by law as their effects are so deleterious that they outweigh the benefits of free speech.

The most cited examples of such expressions are falsely shouting "Fire!" in a crowded place and incitements to commit crime.

But, beyond obvious cases like these, we can immediately see that we cannot reach a consensus, since people in our fractured society have widely-different goals and principles.

Much of this diversity in the West is produced by the influx of large masses of people from countries with worldviews, religious doctrines, ways of life profoundly diverging from ours.

The Hebdo attack tragically revealed one such irreducible conflict of ideas that makes it impossible for Westerners and devout Muslims to agree on when free expression should be limited.

Not even Charlie Hebdo (henceforth CH), the much-trumpeted supreme paragon and defender to the death of free speech, believed in absolute freedom of speech, as demonstrated by its sacking of the cartoonist Siné for a column considered anti-Jewish but, compared to the rag's ordinary fare, too mild for words. Later Siné won a 40,000-euro court judgment against CH for wrongful termination.

CH wasn’t the paper of free speech, but of double standards.

Recently the rag’s long-standing lawyer Richard Malka made evident his opinion that people can be too free in their speech when he chastised Nouvel Obs magazine for publishing a criticism of CH’s slain editor “Charb” by its co-founder Henri Roussel.

I don’t consider Charb et al martyrs. You can be a martyr to a cause, but when your cause is nothing (that’s what nihilism, in the end, is), you can’t be one.

Neither is their paper “satirical”: satire must express something more than the mere immature desire to attack and destroy.

According to encyclopaedias and dictionaries, satire has the intention to shame into improvement; its purpose is constructive social criticism, ridiculing stupidity or vices, showing the weaknesses or bad qualities of a person, government, society, etc.

There is no attempt at improving anything in CH’s crude depiction of sodomy among the three Persons of the Holy Trinity, no constructive social criticism in its celebration of Christmas with a cartoon of Baby Jesus thrown in a public squat toilet between a loo-paper roll (Mary) and a toilet brush (Joseph). No stupidity or vices are exposed – as opposed to demonstrated - by the drawing of the Virgin Mary making the vulgar “umbrella gesture” to fleeing Iraqi Christians while shouting the same words uttered during the massacre in which its drawer, Riss, was wounded, in an eerie coincidence: "Allahu Akbar". No weaknesses or bad qualities are shown by the sketch of a dishevelled, desperate Madonna who, dripping liquid, says she was raped by the three Wise Men.

“Are we all supposed to march in solidarity with that?” asks Patrick Buchanan.

CH’s crass, adolescent humour revolving around sex (preferably of the homosexual variety) and excrements is unfunny and sad. It reminds me of a song by 1960s-70s Italian singer-songwriter Fabrizio De Andre’, about Charles Martel returning from the Battle of Poitiers after having defeated the Moors. The supposed humour concerns his long abstinence from sex imposed by the war, ending in his encounter with a prostitute.

De Andre’, like CH, was a product of the ’68 culture with its visceral hatred for anything Christian. Neither is satire: no intelligent message is put across, it’s turpitude and vile defamation just for the sake of it. In a word: destructive. Which is what the counterculture is all about.

Here we get to answer the question regarding the core principles and goals that must be protected from attacks, the line that freedom of speech must not cross. Charles Martel is a symbol of a Europe united by the same belief in Christianity and prepared to defend that belief on which its civilisation was founded and without which, as it is under everyone’s eyes now, is sinking.

Christianity must be protected from its enemies, then as now. It’s not a question of preferential taste or personal desire: it’s the collective cohesion that is at stake, without which there is no Western society. Critically, given the decline of Christianity as a unifying force among Europeans, statements about the legitimacy of the interests of White Europeans in retaining their territories and their culture must be protected rather than marginalised or made illegal as “hate speech.”

It’s, at this point, a question of survival. Freedom of speech is not a suicide pact, as Alexander Boot put it.

That our heroes and the symbol of our fight for freedom must be the demented pornographers of CH shows what sorry state our civilisation has reached.

That revolting excuse of a rag has been a procession of covers offending Christianity, at a moment when like never before we need something to believe in and to rally around.

It's because of people like CH and De Andre’ and their successful propagation of desecrations of what had kept us together and strong for centuries, that we have been left with absolutely nothing to fight Islam with.

By disarming us, the CH journalists victims of the recent attacks have indeed invited their own death - in a deeper sense than is commonly thought.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: charlesmartel; charliehebdo; christianity; freespeech
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To: Ken H
It is worse than tripe. The author has the same mindset as the terrorists, a belief that free speech should be severely limited, and that a legitimate reaction to speech one disagrees with is violence or suppression.

The author writes:

"There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech.

Even those who sincerely believe that they uphold this principle often don't realise they wouldn’t be prepared to accept any word expressed in any circumstance."

Apart from the obvious logical fallacy of staring your argument with a presumption that everyone else is somehow lacking in intellectual capacity, the author fails to realize that the responsibility assumed by those who believe in free speech is to tolerate the speech of others they disagree with. And to recognize the moral failure, in for example, hitting the obnoxious protestor. That's why freedom loving Americans can go toe to toe with leftist protestors and not end up in a giant fist fight.

Under Ferreri's logic, a violent response to speech is expected and natural, and limits on speech are acceptable. In fact, he advocates protecting Christianity from speech directed against it:

"Here we get to answer the question regarding the core principles and goals that must be protected from attacks, the line that freedom of speech must not cross .... Christianity must be protected from its enemies, then as now ... That revolting excuse of a rag has been a procession of covers offending Christianity"

In the end Ferreri ends up essentially where the terrorists started - believing that a magazine can "offend" a religion, and therefore it should be suppressed or punished. That's a ridiculous point of view.

21 posted on 01/26/2015 3:01:03 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Talisker

I want absolute Freedom of Speech, because I want to know who the jerks are.


22 posted on 01/26/2015 3:01:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 353FMG
Of course when you accept that idea that freedom of speech is related to religion you are accepting the Islamic view with respect to speech, as does Mr. Ferreri. Why do you do that?

What possible meaning can a cartoon in a magazine have when compared, for example, to the Bible? Does seeing a cartoon, however ugly, really matter? Does it weaken your faith?

23 posted on 01/26/2015 3:09:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Enza Ferreri
This article is little more than mental masturbation.

Yeah, you can't scheme to defraud anyone. I suppose you have to actually use “speech” when you are conning someone from their money. This is all getting a little ridiculous. Yelling fire in a theater hardly has anything to do with free speech. It is a crime of causing a public disturbance.

These authors damn well know what we mean by “Free Speech” but are playing ridiculous games of grammar.

A better argument would be around the lines of incitement to violence. That is where it gets a little blurry at times.

24 posted on 01/26/2015 3:26:29 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: zeugma

well yes, that was implied in the conversation that spawned that cliche.


25 posted on 01/26/2015 3:32:13 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: freeandfreezing

“....when you accept that idea that freedom of speech is related to religion....”

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I just used it as an example because it looks that, in the end, it will be a matter of life and death struggle with Islam.

Neither Europe nor America want to even discuss this matter, but “in their hearts” they know that I am right.

In the meantime they’ll just continue kicking the can down the “Islam is a ROP” road.


26 posted on 01/26/2015 3:39:27 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: Enza Ferreri
"Questioning everything results in chaos, which ultimately means questioning nothing."

"This is one of the fallacies often propounded by the so-called "New Atheists" like Richard Dawkins: question everything."

Huh? Whatever you might thing of what Dawkins does say, this is not something that comes from him.

27 posted on 01/26/2015 10:22:10 PM PST by mlo
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To: Enza Ferreri
"Not even Charlie Hebdo (henceforth CH), the much-trumpeted supreme paragon and defender to the death of free speech, believed in absolute freedom of speech, as demonstrated by its sacking of the cartoonist Siné for a column considered anti-Jewish..."

You are confused about what "free speech" means. An employer firing an employee because it disapproved of a work product is not a free speech issue. The employee had no free speech right to work for the employer or have his work published in the magazine.

In the legal sense, "free speech" is about the government not restricting speech. It doesn't require private individuals to sponsor speech they don't like.

In the moral sense, which is what is at issue in the Charlie Hebdo incident, "free speech" is about not killing someone for speech you don't like. It isn't about offense, or approval. Go ahead. Take offense. That's your right too. But you don't get to kill people for publishing things that offend you. This isn't hard and it isn't a grey area. You just need to think about it more clearly.

28 posted on 01/27/2015 8:49:49 AM PST by mlo
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To: Enza Ferreri

By framing it as “absolute” free speech i throw everything away that is said. Everyone agrees that absolute free speech is stupid, so why not instead highlight the argument differently? The way the question is put out there disqualifies the whole following discussion


29 posted on 01/27/2015 8:53:29 AM PST by BRL
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To: BRL
But he didn't frame it as absolute free speech. The article says, "Therefore the discussion shouldn’t be around yes or no to free speech but about what should limit free speech and why."

The problem isn't absolute free speech or not. The problem is understanding what free speech means. Free speech should be absolute, yes. The government has no moral authority to tell people what they can't say. But free speech does not mean that people don't have a right to be offended by what you say, or that you aren't responsible for direct consequences of what you say.

Too many people confuse "free speech" with the different notion that you shouldn't be responsible or criticized for your speech.

30 posted on 01/27/2015 11:41:36 AM PST by mlo
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To: mlo
God and I love how the left constantly, everywhere, every time, trot out the “fire in the theater” argument. Seriously is there some handbook out there or something for liberal objections to rational thought?
31 posted on 01/27/2015 2:06:11 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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