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Please Pass (On) The Popcorn: Democrats Need To Take 2016 General Election Seriously
PoliticusUSA - Real Liberal Politics ^ | January 18, 2015 | Yellow Dog Yankee

Posted on 01/18/2015 9:30:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

An MSNBC UP show panel on Saturday gleefully recounted Mitt Romney’s tentative moves toward a third White House run. “What is he thinking?” is one way to summarize the discussion. “He is delusional” is another. Not one panelist could imagine a scenario under which Romney could win, but each was highly entertained by the idea.

Beware the Popcorn Syndrome. It seems to be spreading among left leaning social media and chattering classes. Right now it is centered on the 2012 Republican nominee and his refusal to go away, but is being expressed as well on a more endemic level.

Pundits, bloggers and tweeters figuratively (literally in Rachel Maddow’s case) are rubbing their hands together and declaring how much fun this election is going to be. They play and replay the 2012 debates with their clown car, $10,000 bets, 9-9-9 economic plans and oops moments. Debates out of which, we seem to forget, a candidate did emerge who won 48 percent of the vote while running a perfectly imperfect campaign.

It is time that the left started taking this election seriously, along with Romney and Jeb Bush and the rest, even those we view as stupid, misogynist, and out of touch wing nuts. It is also time to stop spreading those very words around like mustard on a bologna sandwich because these people have support, they have experience, and they have money. Lots and lots of money. In most cases, they also have the motivation and the means to win dishonestly if they can’t do it any other way. And more than anything else they are no laughing matter; they are extremely dangerous.

The 15 to 20 anticipated Republican candidates are already sorting themselves into three camps; 1) the severely conservative and crazy (a word I use despite my own advice) including Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and a King (take your pick, Steve or Peter); the slightly less extreme with some credibility from previous elections (Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Carly Fiorina and perhaps Rick Perry), and the moderate field of Chris Christie, Bush, and Romney. Another strong contender, Rand Paul, more or less evades categorization.

Unless party discipline fractures we already know the endless and open debates of the last cycle will shrink to 12, a third assigned to Fox. With so few debates, some candidates will never qualify to be on the platform and stronger contenders will dominate the mic time. That will limit exposure of the real fruitcakes but could protect others (i.e. Rick Perry) from themselves.

The sheer size of the early field plays to Romney’s chance of survival but as usually happens, discounting the serial front-runner debacle of 2012, the truly out there candidates will annihilate each other rather quickly. Christie will fade fast as his donors defect to Romney and Bush and his petulant demeanor wears thin. By South Carolina, maybe even earlier, the field will consist of the one or two really far and sorta far right candidates who have most successfully fed the egos of their personal pet millionaires, perhaps both Romney and Bush, and certainly Rand Paul. Were I to guess which moderate might be out by then it would be Bush; I wonder even now how much heart he has in the game.

Romney has the fire and is not a stupid man. He has probably spent hours watching videos of every 2012 debate, speech, and press conference and though he may be unable to change his wooden delivery don’t count on any 47 percent or “I don’t care about poor people” screw-ups this time around. Maybe the UP panel finds his candidacy amusing, but by then his chance for the nomination will be better than 50/50.

No matter who lands on the platform in Cleveland, if the Democrats haven’t long since put away the popcorn and gotten serious they are going to lose this election. In a lot of ways the wind is at the backs of the Republicans despite the harmful policies they pursue where they govern and the vast constituencies they constantly manage to trivialize and offend. We know Republicans own the free media and have the money to buy the rest but Democrats appear to think that counts a lot less in presidential election years. They have bought the theory that the Obama Coalition belongs to the party when in fact it belongs to Obama and counting on the emerging minority populations to vote Democratic is futile if those minorities don’t vote.

There are other Republican advantages Democrats ignore at their peril.

•They own the political machinery in much of the country, holding key offices in many swing states and those with the fastest growing young and minority populations. Voter suppression played a role in 2012 and those secretaries of state and Republican dominated legislatures who are so inclined, which is to say most of them, have two years to make it even worse.

•Each party is only fighting over only about 10 percent of the votes. Pollsters tell us these independent/undecided voters tend to be uninformed and easily swayed by ads and emotion, both of which make them more vulnerable to the media and the money that buys it.

•Republicans hate us more than we hate them. If a Republican doesn’t much want to vote for their own candidate they still love to vote against the Democratic one, a leap of which Democrats appear incapable. Republicans repeatedly elect indicted and convicted criminals while Democrats grouse about the two parties being the same and don’t vote at all.

•They have proved themselves willing, able, perhaps even obligated to cheat.

As amusing as the growing Republican field of candidates, their frailties and missteps might be, and even with the election nearly two years out Democrats must stop giggling and start tending to business. We appear willing to drift toward a non-competitive nomination but still must prepare for a very competitive election and, surprise, one with more than one office at stake. There are down ballot candidates to recruit, campaigns to be built and honed, and those much touted new voters to register and motivate. If we fail to do this it will be Democrats who bring about the “permanent Republican majority” Karl Rove predicted after the 2004 election.

The Republicans don’t care about the popcorn, they are preparing to steal our lunch.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: bush; democrats; gop; romney

1 posted on 01/18/2015 9:30:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Republicans repeatedly elect indicted and convicted criminals while Democrats grouse about the two parties being the same and don’t vote at all.

Other than Ted Cruz and his alchol, who is this guy talking about?

2 posted on 01/18/2015 9:38:18 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

The author sounds like a major douche nozzle who is projecting many demonrat traits onto republicans.


3 posted on 01/18/2015 9:43:46 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Vince Ferrer

I think it’s just projection, just like this statement, which describes Democrats better than it does Republicans:

“They have proved themselves willing, able, perhaps even obligated to cheat”


4 posted on 01/18/2015 9:46:21 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Selma” was supposed to be the kickstart for the Hillary2016 campaign, rallying blacks behind Democrats, based on the fictional portrayal of LBJ.

It isn’t working out that way, and the race-baiters, like Oprah, that financed this crappy movie could lose millions of dollars.


5 posted on 01/18/2015 10:12:03 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: Vince Ferrer

why are the presidential candidates who share the same values as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and perhaps even that great democrat wartime president, despite all his liberal faults, Franklin Delano Roosevelt called crazy and extremist? What has happened to our country? Have we no sense of history at all?


6 posted on 01/18/2015 10:22:33 PM PST by erkelly
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The leftists in my family and at work are indeed giddy, pointing at the electoral map. I can semi see why - they do start with a lot of large blue states locked-up - although I don’t think their advantage is as huge they think it is.

I think they underestimate how the country would respond to a good conservative being nominated.


7 posted on 01/18/2015 10:25:35 PM PST by MarkRegal05
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To: erkelly
Millennials probably don't know their history and they get away with it.
In the bubble nobody can hear the complaints/corrections anyway.
8 posted on 01/18/2015 10:27:56 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told CNN on Sunday he believes Romney checks some boxes “the rest of the candidates don’t necessarily do.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-mitt-romney-actually-the-early-gop-frontrunner-for-2016/
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Yes Jason...but look at what those are you stupid RomneyBot

Willard checks the boxes marked

PRO-ABORTION (X)
SAME SEX MARRIAGE (X)
HOMOSEXALS IN THE MILITARY (X)
HOMOSEXUALS ADOPTING (X)
HOMOSEXUALS AS BOY SCOUT LEADERS (X)
GLOBAL WARMING (X)
GUN CONTROL (X)
AMNESTY (X)

and so on..

Yes boxes that Conservatives like Cruz, Palin, West, et al don’t mark at all..


9 posted on 01/19/2015 4:14:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; stephenjohnbanker; ...
RE:”The 15 to 20 anticipated Republican candidates are already sorting themselves into three camps; 1) the severely conservative and crazy (a word I use despite my own advice) including Ben Carson, Ted Cruz, and a King (take your pick, Steve or Peter); the slightly less extreme with some credibility from previous elections (Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee, Carly Fiorina and perhaps Rick Perry), and the moderate field of Chris Christie, Bush, and Romney. Another strong contender, Rand Paul, more or less evades categorization. “

He equates Steve King with Peter King.

The recent poll of GOPers that I saw had Romney on top, Jeb below him as second and Christie not doing well. Ted Cruz was not even on the list.

10 posted on 01/19/2015 4:53:17 AM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
LOL, Peter King might qualify as "crazy", but "severely conservative"?


11 posted on 01/19/2015 5:46:26 AM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Voter suppression played a role in 2012 and those secretaries of state and Republican dominated legislatures who are so inclined, which is to say most of them, have two years to make it even worse.

What a brilliant political analysis. His conclusion, the Republicans are going to steal the election. Sure.

12 posted on 01/19/2015 7:09:46 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Impy; 2ndDivisionVet; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; stephenjohnbanker
RINO Peter King was rightfully seen as the backstabbing slime he is from 1998-2000, but he spent over a decade fooling a majority of conservatives into thinking he's one of us. All this guy had to do was beat his chest on Fox News about how pro-life, anti-illegal alien, and anti-Muslim he is, and conservative groups would fawn over the guy. I tried to explain for years that King was a Clintonite and IRA terrorist lover who stabs us in the back behind the scenes, but it fell on deaf ears around here.

And yes, he was constantly compared to and confused with Steve King of Iowa, the latter being someone who truly IS staunchly conservative.

13 posted on 01/19/2015 9:12:54 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tennessee Nana; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; fieldmarshaldj; stephenjohnbanker
>> “Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, told CNN on Sunday he believes Romney checks some boxes “the rest of the candidates don’t necessarily do.” <<

Puke. Chaffetz is a Romneybot too? I guess it sort of makes sense since he's from Utah, but still. Chaffetz is a textbook example of a candidate who was marketed as the "true conservative" in a primary and turned out to be WORSE than his predecessor. He ran against a 95% conservative incumbent (Chris Cannon) whose achilles heel was being terrible on illegal immigration. Now Chaffetz has ended up just as bad as Cannon immigration (he's "evolved" to be pro-amnesty) and he's to the LEFT of him on other issues.

Looking back in hindsight, I don't think Chaffetz was always solidly conservative and was somehow corrupted by the "GOPE" when he got to Washington. He was a loyal Jon Huntsman Republican, who saw an opening to get a prized federal seat in Congress if he could run to the right of his opponent, so he simply invented a "principled conservative fighter" persona out of thin air and played it to a tee on the campaign trail. "Dr. Milton Wolf" tried the same stunt in Kansas (bought himself a gun for the first time in his life and started going to church so he could reinvent himself as a "lifetime NRA member and fervent born-again Christian") but the fake persona failed to work in the latter case.

14 posted on 01/19/2015 9:29:42 AM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: sickoflibs

In 2012 Willard decided that he was “severely Conservative”

LOL


15 posted on 01/19/2015 9:38:40 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican
Puke. Chaffetz is a Romneybot too? I guess it sort of makes sense since he's from Utah

They all support Romney, except Mike Lee I guess.

Looking back in hindsight, I don't think Chaffetz was always solidly conservative and was somehow corrupted by the "GOPE" when he got to Washington. He was a loyal Jon Huntsman Republican, who saw an opening to get a prized federal seat in Congress if he could run to the right of his opponent, so he simply invented a "principled conservative fighter" persona out of thin air and played it to a tee on the campaign trail.

Yup. That's why I look at the record (and why I prefer a candidate to have one) over the rhetoric.

16 posted on 01/19/2015 9:07:58 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: BillyBoy

Just like with Marine Le Pen, be loud on a few hot button issues and a lot of people will ignore your larger record.


17 posted on 01/19/2015 9:09:02 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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