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Soaring Overdose Deaths, and the Failed ‘War on Drugs’
https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/12293.19.0.0/society/soaring-overdose-deaths-and-the-failed-war-on-drugs ^ | 12-18-2014

Posted on 12/18/2014 12:53:01 PM PST by Thistooshallpass9

The Center for Disease Control and Prevention made headlines this month after reporting that from 1999 to 2012, the number of drug overdose deaths in the United States more than doubled.

That is a sobering statistic, but it doesn’t reveal the true scope of the rising number of drug deaths or the true extent of America’s failure in the war on drugs...

(Excerpt) Read more at thetrumpet.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; drugs; no; warfordrugs; wod
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To: Responsibility2nd
Only if the legal stuff is too heavily taxed - nobody’s doing any significant undercutting of the legal alcohol market.

Yeah? What about the legal tobacco market in New York City?

That is too heavily taxed and is being undercut.

Knowing that more taxes leads to bigger government

Better that users should pay sales taxes than that I should pay income tax to jail them.

81 posted on 12/18/2014 2:48:00 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Gubmint Storm Troopers would be conducting the same no-knock SWAT raids as they do now as possession of UNTAXED weed will be just as bad as them untaxed loosies in NYC.”

That’s a much better proposition than the situation we have nowadays, since we can fight state and local laws and abuses much easier than federal ones based on obscure court rulings.


82 posted on 12/18/2014 2:54:56 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DiogenesLamp

Scary stuff, especially as a parent. I am glad I am aware though so many aren’t and think because they live in suburbia it couldn’t happen to their kids. I worked with someone who’s 17 year old son was (is) addicted and I have a friend I grew up with in upstate NY who has lost two brothers to it in the past couple of years.


83 posted on 12/18/2014 2:59:40 PM PST by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: Veto!
Opiode analgesics...

Same is true in New Mexico. Prescription pain killers account for a large number of our fatal overdoses statewide.
84 posted on 12/18/2014 3:01:29 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: jwalsh07

Honestly that is a first for me. Thanks! :) Not sarcastic, not kidding! It’s darn near impossible around here lately.


85 posted on 12/18/2014 3:12:08 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: WayneS

Alcohol doesn’t hook people instantly on their first drink.

There is no such thing as a social meth head user. Or a I only shoot heroin when I play cards, user. Or even a functional crack head user.

They estimate about 10% of people who drink are some form of alcoholic. That means 90% of alcohol drinkers do not become alcoholics. There are no people that take crack, heroin or meth that can control their drug use. They all turn into addicts from these drugs. Everyone who takes them says it only took one time to get hooked, they’re that strong.

Alcohol just isn’t the same as these hard drus. And you certainly know that. Not even all alcohol is the same.


86 posted on 12/18/2014 3:17:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Thistooshallpass9

Illegal aliens overdose at an alarming rate here in the US.


87 posted on 12/18/2014 3:22:33 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: A CA Guy; ConservingFreedom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War

There’s an unbroken line of power and wealth that controls the drug business at the top, from long before that War, right up to the present day.

Illegal drugs require massive money laundering to the tune of billions per year.

That would be impossible without acquiescence from the very top of business and government.

Think banks don’t know about money laundering, or that it’s impossible for them to see it ?

Try depositing large amounts of cash in your bank account and see what happens.

The financial elites who control the drug business have milions of willing (knowing ? unknowing ?) minions like ConservingFreedom helping them promote more widespread use of their drugs, and pressing the public to reject Biblical morality. Convincing people to reject Biblical morality is much easier when they are stoned

Look at ConservingFreedom’s poking history - it’s a joke. About 99% of his “work” on FR is promoting recreactional use of drugs. Well, technically, he’s promoting “legalizing” it - but why would a supposed “conservative” promote such wicked, self-destructive substances for legalization, if he were not promoting their use ? It certainly would make more drug customers available who right now don’t partake or partake only a little since their drugs would be available without dealing with a sleezy illegal drug dealer but by simple dropping by a chain of hipster stores where all the “cool people” hang out.

How is a person who routinely gets high helping himself ? How is he going to fare when it comes to gaining honest wealth ? Answer: his life will go down the toilet.

That’s the real program of those opium-lord elites - they are new world order. They want the sheeple to be stupid and be slaves.

Drug use keeps them stupid.

Satan promises us “freedom” to be libertine; just a little “fun”. And our life just melts away, wasted time, and we’re enslaved to our “fun” “freedom” libertine lifestyle.

The logo of the present-day Jardine Matheson firm is a stylized opium poppy.

http://www.jardines.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jardine_Matheson


88 posted on 12/19/2014 1:31:30 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: A CA Guy; ConservingFreedom

ConservingFreedom’s material mostly comes right out of the playbook of the so-called “libertarian” movement, which of course draws heavily from the scribblings of Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum.

Alisa was all tied up with the so-called “Austrian school” of economics, the financial elites’ own opposition to their other avenue of attack on the “sheeple”, the communist movement.

The Austrian school presents completely unfettered capitalism as the only possible alternative to complete totalitarianism.

In truth, under both “communist” and “capitalist” governments - the elites provide the financing. Clever trick.

Poor little Alisa was pals with Ludwig von Mises and even a young Alan Greenspan.

She’s supposed to be the “literarary genius” of the libertine movement.

Her writings have fooled a great many people into secular humanism, quite amazingly even when the people fooled are professing Christians. A lot of professing Christians’ knowledge of true Biblical doctrine is woefully lacking.


89 posted on 12/19/2014 1:43:06 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Illegal drugs require massive money laundering to the tune of billions per year.

That would be impossible without acquiescence from the very top of business and government.

That's another problem with the War on Drugs - it puts in the hands of criminals and their launderers the money they need to corrupt government officials. We can engage in lefty-style utopian fantasizing about creating an incorruptible government - or we can take the realistically do-able step of taking that money out of criminal hands by legalization.

The financial elites who control the drug business have milions of willing (knowing ? unknowing ?) minions like ConservingFreedom helping them promote more widespread use of their drugs

Nonsense - if drugs are legalized laundering will be unnecessary and the launderers will lose. Their minions are those who support drug criminalization.

Well, technically, he’s promoting “legalizing” it - but why would a supposed “conservative” promote such wicked, self-destructive substances for legalization, if he were not promoting their use ?

Why would anyone support the legality of the self-destructive substances alcohol and tobacco, if he were not promoting their use? That's not a rhetorical question - and anyone willing and able to answer it honestly (which may or may not include you or any other Drug Warrior) will have the answer to your question.

90 posted on 12/19/2014 8:04:41 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Everyone who takes them says it only took one time to get hooked, they’re that strong.

Everyone who gets hooked has motivation to look for an excuse. Many alcoholics say they were hooked from their very first drink.

91 posted on 12/19/2014 8:07:26 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Also, the addicted warriors are making the market that enabled the drug cartels to exist and therefore are involved in destabilizing Mexico and Central America.
Then the addicted warriors are also responsible for all the dead associated with the drug cartels. Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands in mass graves or disappeared.

The users of pot for recreational purposes IMO should realize they are as bad as those aborting babies at planned parenthood.


92 posted on 12/19/2014 10:20:14 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Also, the addicted warriors are making the market that enabled the drug cartels to exist and therefore are involved in destabilizing Mexico and Central America.
Then the addicted warriors are also responsible for all the dead associated with the drug cartels. Tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands in mass graves or disappeared.

Drug users are no more responsible then those who make the drug market profitable for cartels by supporting drug criminalization.

93 posted on 12/19/2014 10:26:19 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

BS, the recreational drug users are making the drug cartel market and are responsible for all the death since if they didn’t create the market the death would not be happening to get the addicted warriors their recreational drugs in the USA.

So when you see all the dead babies, kids, women, students and other people and are a recreational drug user, go look in the mirror and say “I DID THIS, I AM RESPONSIBLE”.


94 posted on 12/19/2014 10:41:46 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
BS, the recreational drug users are making the drug cartel market and are responsible for all the death since if they didn’t create the market the death would not be happening to get the addicted warriors their recreational drugs in the USA.

So when you see all the dead babies, kids, women, students and other people and are a recreational drug user, go look in the mirror and say “I DID THIS, I AM RESPONSIBLE”

I believe that's the same argument the gun grabbers use to claim gun owners are responsible for all the drive-by shootings.

95 posted on 12/19/2014 10:48:42 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: A CA Guy
Drug users are no more responsible then those who make the drug market profitable for cartels by supporting drug criminalization.

the recreational drug users are making the drug cartel market and are responsible for all the death since if they didn’t create the market the death would not be happening

It's equally true that if drug criminalization didn't boost profits and restrict them to criminal hands, the death would not be happening.

So when you see all the dead babies, kids, women, students and other people and are a recreational drug user or a supporter of drug criminalization, go look in the mirror and say “I DID THIS, I AM RESPONSIBLE”.

There, I made it complete.

96 posted on 12/19/2014 10:50:02 AM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I’ve never met one that said they were hooked on alcohol because of their first drink.

I have heard many say that AFTER they were alcoholics, and fell off the wagon, it only took the first drink to get them drinking again.


97 posted on 12/19/2014 2:44:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I’ve never met one that said they were hooked on alcohol because of their first drink.

I've met many. The point remains that whatever the substance, everyone who gets hooked has motivation to look for an excuse.

98 posted on 12/19/2014 2:48:59 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Rationalization is the second greatest human drive.

It’s not just for addicts.


99 posted on 12/19/2014 2:49:50 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Rationalization is the second greatest human drive.

Indeed - so when an addict says "it was the drug that did it, not me - I was hooked from the very first use" that should be taken as less than definitive.

100 posted on 12/19/2014 3:00:57 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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