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‘Bombshell: Maui Police Department; Loretta Fuddy’s Original Cause Of Death Is Drowning’
Birtherreport.com ^ | 10-29-2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 10/29/2014 6:04:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

When Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy, a central player in the production of Barack Obama’s controversial birthcertificate died in a mysterious plane crash, those of us who are convinced that the birth certificate was forged, suspected foul play. Of course we were belittled. A month later, the cause of her death was released, cardiac arrhythmia. Now, a recently discovered report from a Maui Police Detective reveals that Loretta Fuddy’s heart wasn’t the problem after all. She drowned…. with her life jacket on.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; fuddy; hawaii; kenyanbornmuzzie; lorettafuddy; maui; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: BurningOak

I don’t think that there is anything unusual about an initial police statement saying that drowning was the cause of death in an ocean emergency landing and then, after a complete autopsy, diagnosing the cause of death as cardiac arrhythmia.
Falling out of the sky and into the ocean can be stressful.

Arrhythmias are often harmless. Only a doctor can rule out heart disease. Many arrhythmias have little to no effect on the heart and can occur in people who are healthy.

But arrhythmias are often a trigger for an anxiety condition that directly relates to heart fears: panic attacks. Arrhythmias are common panic attack triggers, and anxiety and stress increase the likelihood of arrhythmias. One of the theories for how people experience their first panic attack is that during times of stress, their heart suffers from arrhythmia and the person – who has never experienced a panic attack before – thinks something is terribly wrong and suffers from extreme anxiety and panic as a result.
The initial newspaper reports on this plane crash said that Loretta Fuddy’s Deputy Keith Yamamoto, the person who held her hand while in the life vests, tried to “calm her down.” [”Fuddy was clinging to the hand of her deputy, Keith Yamamoto, who tried to help her relax, according to the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the crash.”—Associated Press]

Anxiety can actively cause arrhythmia. But despite that it’s not clear why. It’s known that a person’s heartbeat may speed up during times of stress as a result of the fight or flight system, but an arrhythmia tends to be much more sudden and doesn’t always come during times of intense anxiety.

Most likely an arrhythmia occurs as a response to sudden and unexpected adrenaline that your body creates when it’s stressed. It may also be due to tense muscles or nerve firings that may react to the way a person feels mentally. Studies have shown that somehow those with anxiety are more prone to extra muscle contractions of the heart, leading to arrhythmia. Unfortunately, there are few studies of the exact mechanism for how this occurs.

It should also be noted that hyperventilation, which occurs during panic attacks, may also lead to arrhythmia.

Yes, Loretta Fuddy may have been murdered in an elaborate conspiratorial plot. But she also may have died naturally from sudden cardiac arrest that was stress induced by a small plane crash into the Pacific Ocean.

From KHON, Channel 2 in Honolulu, March 14, 2014:
“Official autopsy results for late state health director Loretta Fuddy reveal she was a poor swimmer and never swam in ocean waters.

Fuddy was one of nine people on board a Cessna plane, Makani Kai Air, when it lost power and crashed into the water off Kalaupapa, Molokai last December. Fuddy died from acute cardiac arrhythmia, or an irregular heartbeat, due to hyperventilation.

According to the report, witnesses saw Fuddy exit the aircraft with her flotation device and was “markedly afraid” while waiting for rescue personnel to arrive. She was pronounced dead after being brought to shore.

The report says reported ocean conditions included relatively calm five-foot waves that occasionally splashed over the face of the crash victims as they awaited rescue.


81 posted on 10/29/2014 11:22:28 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: silverleaf

The crash was not in a channel, just offshore a ways.


82 posted on 10/29/2014 11:35:33 AM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Nero Germanicus

Five foot waves are not relatively calm. I saw some footage that looked like 2-3 foot waves to me. Hardly any that would tend to drown a local.If she did drown then you are telling me the guy let her hand go and watched her drift away? Is that a bit unusual?


83 posted on 10/29/2014 11:46:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Nero Germanicus

“But she also may have died naturally from sudden cardiac arrest that was stress induced by a small plane crash into the Pacific Ocean.”

So wait...now she died of cardiac arrest? I could understand that. Your entire post makes sense....except the M.E. didn’t say she died of cardiac arrest.

You apparently understand that you don’t die of Arrhythmia. I guess the M.E. doesn’t? Huh. He’s supposed to be so smart and all.


84 posted on 10/29/2014 11:55:27 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; Myrddin; MamaDearest; autumnraine; ...
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85 posted on 10/29/2014 11:56:24 AM PDT by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I thought it would be pretty hard to see a previously unknown arrhythmia during the postmortem....


86 posted on 10/29/2014 12:04:17 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty; All
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Of course we were belittled.

Including some [long time sleeper cell suspected Trolls] on this forum.

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87 posted on 10/29/2014 12:04:20 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Those life jackets are only designed to keep one’s head above water. C A could very well have occured, making her unconscious at which point she would not have been able to hold her head back and keep the water from entering her mouth......


88 posted on 10/29/2014 12:09:15 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Don't harsh my buzz homie......)
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To: nevermorelenore
.....the body double who occasionally appears with teleprompter....

I have had a strange feeling about this .... it is two people. There is a pronounced weight difference .... for one thing.

89 posted on 10/29/2014 12:10:09 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (2015-2016. Depending upon what the "Republicans" do, the Republic lives or dies.)
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To: BurningOak

Or Obama/Jarret instructed John Brennan to take care of her...he has experience in such matters.


90 posted on 10/29/2014 12:22:18 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: saleman

We’re discussing what second hand reports have said about the autopsy report. That may be different what what the report actually states in full and in proper context. Each second hand report on the autopsy that I have read on the Internet spins its findings and the actual terminology used a little (or a lot) differently.

“Sudden cardiac arrest is the sudden, unexpected loss of heart function, breathing and consciousness. Sudden cardiac arrest usually results from an electrical disturbance in the heart that disrupts its pumping action, stopping blood flow to the rest of the body.
The immediate cause of sudden cardiac arrest is usually an abnormality in heart rhythm (arrhythmia), the result of a problem with the heart’s electrical system.”— The Mayo Clinic


91 posted on 10/29/2014 12:23:14 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Hot Tabasco
That's what I was wondering--if it was possible that she had some of the signs of drowning, which led to the initial finding, but further investigation put the cause elsewhere. But apparently even drowning isn't that cut and dried--according to this site, "many forensic experts may not be able determine if a victim was dead or alive when he entered the water...The fluid that fills lungs postmortem often cannot be distinguished from fluid in the lungs caused by a submerged corpse."

And Wikipedia says, "In most persons, the laryngospasm relaxes some time after unconsciousness and water can enter the lungs causing a "wet drowning". However, about 7–10% of people maintain this seal until cardiac arrest. This was called "dry drowning", as no water enters the lungs. In forensic pathology, water in the lungs indicates that the person was still alive at the point of submersion. Absence of water in the lungs may be either a dry drowning or indicates a death before submersion."

Given all that uncertainty, I don't think the writer of the original article has enough information to draw the conclusions she does.

92 posted on 10/29/2014 12:26:27 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Nero Germanicus

Well, that ought to be easy enough to verify since autopsy reports are public record....

Oops. http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/04/revealed-hawaii-keeps-autopsy-report.html


93 posted on 10/29/2014 12:26:46 PM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: saleman

It wasn’t just “arrythmia” she died from, it was acute meaning it was severe at the time. In other words it must have at least felt like a heart attack. And acute arrythmias can be life threatening

Also, having worked in the healthcare industry it’s quite possible for diagnoses to be miscoded. Such as the primary and secondary diagnoses switched inadvertently. It’s quite possible that’s what happened here (if not the diagnosis being miscoded entirely).

I wouldn’t base a conspiracy theory on a possibly miscoded disgnosis.


94 posted on 10/29/2014 12:29:38 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ethical

The drowning finding was from a preliminary report pending a full autopsy. Do you understand the words “preliminary”, “pending” and “autopsy”?


95 posted on 10/29/2014 12:32:45 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Someone should be having some intense discussions with the passenger who was holding her hand. He was closest to Fuddy when they were in the water.

Fuddy's deputy at the Hawaiian DoH.

96 posted on 10/29/2014 12:40:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT; null and void; melancholy
Thanks for the pings.

She drowned…. with her life jacket on.

Suuure. I can see how that can happen when you hold someone's head under water.

97 posted on 10/29/2014 12:45:29 PM PDT by azishot
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To: Nero Germanicus

Hey spaz Jamesee777, 2015 is going to be an interesting year for you OBots. Only 6 days left before you clowns lose the Senate.


98 posted on 10/29/2014 12:46:18 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Nero Germanicus

The police did not announce the original cause of death, drowning, they simply repeated what the M.E. said after the autopsy was completed.


99 posted on 10/29/2014 12:49:29 PM PDT by ethical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

precisely. Drowning is a very specific finding. If you make that finding you don’t do it lightly but based on autopsy results. when the cause of death was changed to CA it was done without any new information. please read the article carefully.


100 posted on 10/29/2014 12:54:24 PM PDT by ethical
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