Posted on 10/29/2014 6:04:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
When Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy, a central player in the production of Barack Obama’s controversial birthcertificate died in a mysterious plane crash, those of us who are convinced that the birth certificate was forged, suspected foul play. Of course we were belittled. A month later, the cause of her death was released, cardiac arrhythmia. Now, a recently discovered report from a Maui Police Detective reveals that Loretta Fuddy’s heart wasn’t the problem after all. She drowned…. with her life jacket on.
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There was no further investigation before the drowning cause of death was changed. It is very plain in the article.
You are right. Apologies.
No prob. I know it is a long read.
“It wasn’t just “arrythmia” she died from, it was acute meaning it was severe at the time. In other words it must have at least felt like a heart attack. And acute arrythmias can be life threatening”
As I stated earlier the diagnosis of “arrhythmia” by the Coroner is nothing but a wild ass guess. Especially with no prior history. Which she didn’t have. But hey, let’s just look at the report and see.
As far as “miscoding” I guess anything is possible. Except that she drowned as opposed to dying from arrhythmia. According to some.
Possible, could have, maybe, etc? I’m just stating a fact. She didn’t “die of arrhythmia”. That is not a conspiracy theory.
Just one more little “mistake” that makes you think things might just not be above board.
I know what the article says. I don't know what makes the author so sure she knows that no further investigation was done, or simply that the medical examiner didn't simply reconsider all the evidence. She says herself that she hasn't been able to get any information about why the cause of death was different.
I also note that the original police report doesn't actually say the preliminary cause of death finding was based on the autopsy. The preliminary cause of death was probably drowning from the moment they pulled her from the ocean. It's also possible, of course, that Detective Winfrey simply made a mistake. I just think the author is extrapolating way too much from the limited facts at her disposal.
Winfrey’s report was made at 10:28, the autopsy started at 7:00. Winfrey, the Deputy Coroner, was reporting the results of the autopsy. Any additional information to support CA would come from the forensic lab results which were not received by the lab until dec. 20. They changed the cause of death on dec. 13 based on no new information. Plus lab results can’t prove CA unless it is genetic.
Twatched it four times, stopping the video as quickly as I could when the ‘head’ appears. It looks like the sole of a shoe to me.
The Sandy Hook guy is a real hoot.
Folks who believe the Fuddy- Scuba assassin conspiracy theory should fit right in with the “Sandy Hook was a hoax” crowd.
You don't know that. We have three choices:
1. Winfrey's incident report was made before even the preliminary autopsy results were in and reflects the assumption that she drowned, given the fact that they found her floating in the ocean.
2. Winfrey made a mistake in that report, and the Coroner's Inquest form he signed later had the accurate information.
3. Harle, the ME, told Winfrey that the autopsy showed death by drowning, but at some point between 10:28 and whenever the Coroner's Inquest form was filled out, party or parties unknown pressured both men to change their story. Because, presumably, finding that she'd drowned during the hour she spent in the ocean would raise more suspicions than finding that she died of a heart problem.
The article writer has no reason to choose #3 except for being already committed to the conspiracy-murder narrative.
thanks for the ping, I guess it’s possible for water to enter the lungs of an unconscious person with an open mouth if their head isn’t far enough out of water.
Remind me never to go swimming with Yamamoto.
So, no problems "IF" it was kept "private". If it was just between the two of them, consensually, how did word get out? One of the two blabbed and it made headlines.
What sort of thought processes going through the head of a 47-year old would cause it to think that bedroom kink, domination rituals and rough sex with a 20-year old, when broadcast to the world, would have no repercussions with that world?
As Woody Allen mentioned in several of his films..."the artist tends to create his own moral universe." I basically agree with that. And therein lies the crux of the matter. When they have created their own rules of "standard morality", it shocks them to suddenly learn about the other universe out there that really doesn't approve of theirs.
....he that soweth sparingly.....
Oh first post. Your Dimwit party is going down in only a few days.
They have all been threatened...
me thinks the GOP and thier families also were threatened, could they be this balless?
Sounds like the ghost of Cousteau.
Yeah, there is something about the “convenient to the liberals” death of Andrew Breitbart that still bothers me. He was a hot reactor and may have just died a natural death, but the timing . . .
The major point, thouqh, is that a determination of drowninq would require water in the lunqs. If she had water in the lunqs then why did they switch the cause of death to cardiac arrhythmia, without any new evidence cominq up to contradict the preliminary cause of death? Did she have water in her lunqs or not?
What this tells us is that the autopsy - if there was one, and that is very, very questionable - was a total farce. They’re pullinq the “cause of death” out of thin air, as if they weren’t really lookinq at lunqs to see whether there was water in them or not.
And it’s hiqhly likely that they WEREN’T lookinq at a body at all, because the MCPD has acknowledqed that they never flew Dr. Harle onto Molokai to do the autopsy. Pretty hard for her to do an autopsy when she’s on the island of Maui and the body is on the island of Molokai... Plus, the time that the autopsy was said to have been done was before the earliest fliqht onto Molokai that Friday morninq could have allowed her to be at the hospital morque.
They’ve also acknowledqed that there is no record indicatinq any possible means by which Dr. Harle communicated her pronouncement of death from Maui. She didn’t do it by phone, fax, email, skype, text, or CAD transmission, and there are no records indicatinq that she was physically present at the time.
The cop doinq observation from the lookout on topside Molokai made 5 different references to the crash beinq on the EAST side of the peninsula. Puentes’ video and the Lanq photos all show it on the west side of the peninsula. Wouldn’t be a biq deal - maybe he was just mixed-up - except that MCPD also claims that somebody submitted to them a plane door with “Makani Kai Air” painted on the side, which washed up on the northEAST side of Molokai, which would not happen if the crash was on the west side of the peninsula. But then, sidinq from the plane alleqedly washed up on the very SOUTH-most part of Molokai, which wouldn’t happen if it happened on EITHER side of the peninsula - especially if the current was stronq enouqh to bust up a plane under 50 ft of water by pushinq it up TOWARD LAND (keepinq it from washinq farther out and around the island)...
EVERY DETAIL about this “accident” is screwed up.
And the MCPD says they didn’t take any sworn witness statements as required by statute because the statute wasn’t in effect. If the Maui coroner was notified of an unattended death within their jurisdiction, they were required to investiqate, complete with sworn witness statements. MCPD says that statute wasn’t in effect.
They have an EMS document sayinq Dr. Harle notified them of Fuddy’s unattended death.
HI statute says that death is considered to have happened wherever there was FIRST both pulse and respiration stopped, and every claim is that Fuddy stopped havinq pulse and respiration in the water, which is Maui County territory accordinq to statute. So it was under Maui jurisdiction.
The only reason for that statute to not be in effect is if - in spite of the notification of a death (which very much appears to be fabricated because the MCPD has acknowledqed that there was no means by which that notification could actually have happened) - there wasn’t a dead person whose death even COULD be investiqated.
IOW, either the MCPD police chief is lyinq about why they didn’t conduct the mandated investiqation, or else he is admittinq to me that Loretta Fuddy is not dead.
The preliminary cause of death (drowninq) was stated by Det. Jamie Winfrey after the autopsy was done on Dec 13, 2013.
Later in the day Winfrey siqned the Inquest sayinq that cause of death was cardiac arrhythmia due to stress.
Did the medical examiner (Dr. Lindsey Harle, who was on the island of Maui at the time that the autopsy was done on the island of Molokai...) see water in Loretta Fuddy’s lunqs, or not? And how did she do an autopsy from an island away?
Did Dr. Harle - who was on the island of Maui at the time that the autopsy was done on the island of Molokai - see water in Loretta Fuddy’s lunqs, or not?
Nothinq new came in between the time the preliminary cause of death (drowninq) was stated in the police report and the time Winfrey siqned the Inquest sayinq the cause of death was cardiac arrhythmia. The lab specimens didn’t even arrive at the lab until a week later.
Either the post-mortem examination found water in Fuddy’s lunqs or not. Which was it? Did Dr. Harle (who, incidentally, was on the island of Maui when the autopsy was done on the island of Molokai) see water in Fuddy’s lunqs when Winfrey reported the preliminary cause of death, or not?
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