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10 Things I Learned From Eavesdropping on Conservatives Talking About ‘America’ At the Movie Theater
Ring of Fire Radio starring Robert F. Kennedy, Jr ^ | July 9, 2014 | Chauncey DeVega

Posted on 07/14/2014 11:02:05 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

America: Imagine the World Without Her is the newest propaganda hit piece from confessed criminal and Right-wing operative Dinesh D’Souza.

During my weekly visit to the movies, I saw Deliver Us From Evil. It was a movie with great potential (the connection to PTSD and the “demons” that our veterans carry home with them from war could have been more thoroughly developed) that needed a thorough rewrite and editing. I am a sucker for movies about the supernatural and occult. Therefore, I felt obligated to see Deliver Us From Evil.

Dinesh D’Souza’s new “documentary” “America” was also playing at the same movie theater (I had already suffered through a viewing of that Right-wing tract). Thus, I decided to do some reconnaissance/observational research on the attendees of D’Souza’s newest fairy tale propaganda hit piece.

The actual members of the Right-wing public who are high on the political meth of the Fox News echo chamber are more fascinating to me than the media which is used to create and propagandize them.

While listening to the impromptu debriefing and cult meeting in the lobby that followed a viewing of America: Imagine the World Without Her, I realized that 1) Deliver Us From Evil is far less frightening than D’Souza’s newest creation and 2) “America’s”view of empirical reality and history is also supernatural, existing outside of the realm of normal logic and reality.

Talking in the abstract about the dangerous and noxious civic culture which has been created by the Right-wing media is one thing; actually listening to and observing this public in person is an altogether different experience. There is nothing harmless about the impact of the Right-wing propaganda machine on the thinking and reasoning processes of conservatives in the Age of Obama.

As I learned earlier this week, their warped logic and skewed perception of social and political reality is extremely dangerous and can/will lead to more incidents of Right-wing domestic violence, because how else would a reasonable person deal with a government that is led by “traitors” and under the control of Satan?

What did I observe while listening to the people who went to see America: Imagine the World Without Her?

1. The small group of people who attended America: Imagine the World Without Her here in Chicago skewed older (50s to 70s). It was, surprisingly, a racially integrated group with several black and brown folks mixing in comfortably with the white viewers.

2. “America” seemed like a reverential and defiant experience for the viewers. Interpreting their chatter, it seemed that they were excited to stick it to Obama by seeing America: Imagine the World Without Her in his home town. The Right-wing troglodytes were also worked up about the fact that their–and America: Imagine the World Without Her’s real nemesis–Saul Alinsky, is also a Chicago native.

3. An African-American man, a black conservative, led the sermon/cult meeting in the lobby of the movie theater. Playing the standard role of black conservative in contemporary movement conservatism, his presence gave permission to the other members of the group to talk freely about Barack Obama without the fear of being labeled as “racists”.

4. America: Imagine the World Without Her is a cinematic conduit for standard Right-wing talking points. The power of “America” is rooted in the shared group experience that comes with going to the cinema. The Right-wing echo chamber is a fantastical and bizarre world where the paranoid style and conspiranoid thinking is the norm. This effect is amplified by the face-to-face communal experience of attending the same propaganda film. The insider and special knowledge given to them by “America” can then be disseminated by the “elect” to the “non-believers”.

The idea that D’Souza’s movie has special knowledge–that the viewer is now obligated to share in order to counter “liberal lies” and “bias”–was repeated by several of the people leaving the theater.

5. America: Imagine the World Without Her should be taught in public schools as a corrective to the “indoctrination” of the state and liberal teachers. One viewer enthusiastically suggested to another member of the tribe that “kids” should be given a choice between America: Imagine the World Without Her and their standard history textbook–the latter is supposedly full of lies that will be exposed by D’Souza’s “truths”.

6. The black conservative suggested to his congregation that Obama is the devil and a tool of Satan. I was unsure how those two figures are related to one another in his cognitive schema. He also said that the movie was powerful for showing in clear terms how Saul Alinsky–a “communist America hating traitor”–met with Hillary Clinton at some point decades ago and has been orchestrating the destruction of America from behind the scenes.

In playing his role as black gatekeeper who grants permission to his fellow conservatives to be racists, the black conservative cult leader used the rhetorical strategy of “code switching” where he adopted “black” affected speech to talk about how he works “in the ‘hood” and that black Americans–unlike him–are brainwashed and controlled by Obama and the Democratic Party.

Of course, the obligatory talking point, that the Democratic Party is the party of Jim and Jane Crow was referenced as part of his performance.

7. I also learned that Margaret Sanger was in cahoots with Charles Darwin’s brother, and that they were all eugenicists who pioneered abortion in America as a “racist” tool for “liberals” to kill black babies.

8. America was apparently a “Christian Nation” at the Founding and the United States has been ruined by godless liberals led by Barack Obama. The United States will apparently be destroyed unless the Bible and “biblical values” are renewed and made the center of public and private life.

9. There were white indentured servants in the American colonies. This is an important part of “America’s” narrative as that fact somehow makes chattel slavery a less unique and less vicious social institution as practiced for centuries in the United States.

10. What did the lone white conservative do during this cult meeting/debriefing? He was quiet. He nodded enthusiastically when the black conservative would speak. The lone white conservative also smiled and seemed very pleased when his black conservative pet said that “black people have been tricked and brainwashed” by Obama and the Democratic Party.

America: Imagine the World Without Her’s oeuvre is not new. It is a cinematic version of the Right-wing talking points and lies that are circulated on a daily basis throughout the Fox News echo chamber.

Epistemic closure is a real phenomenon. America: Imagine the World Without Her is a helpful reminder of how the use of technical and social scientific language often masks the real human experiences that underlie and are spoken to by theory and research.

To point. The audience members who I observed after their viewing of “America” were enjoying the sense of community that comes with encountering like-minded people…a feeling that is amplified if you have been told that you are somehow “oppressed” or “marginalized” by “the system”, “liberals”, “big government”, “atheists”, etc..

America: Imagine the World Without Her’s lies and disinformation are poisons to our civic culture. However, I was most disturbed by seeing living and breathing examples of the people who have been brainwashed by the Right-wing media. Interacting with online trolls is tedious. Seeing online trolls made real, in person, alive, and not as ephemeral digital representations, is a reminder of how serious these political matters actually are.

Contemporary movement conservatism is a cult and religion. Its believers are immune to normal appeals to logic and fact. America: Imagine the World Without Her is a crystallization of Right-wing fantasies and distortions presented through the cinematic imagination. It is an artifact of the Tea Party GOP’s madness. Consequently, the movie’s real social value is how it serves as an insight into the paranoid style and conspiranoid fantasies that have possessed the Right-wing’s foot soldiers and public–and which are a threat to all Americans’ safety, security, and prosperity.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: america; blacks; dsouza; movies; racism; teaparty
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To: sphinx
Do American lefties really need someone to connect the dots for them?

The true Leftist--and the writer certainly appears to be one--is not driven by reason, but by hatred of reality. That hatred runs through all their projects, policies & rhetoric--although at election time, they have become reasonably skilled at masking it in euphemistic language.

While slavery--whether those held in servitude were called "slaves, bondsmen, serfs," or whatever, is truly common to some extensive period in almost every nation's history: there certainly were unique aspects of the application of the system in each land. One of the things that stands out in America, was that the system was considerably modified by Christian values, with the result being that it was very common for the newly freedmen in the post war generation that followed emancipation, to continue to identify with the families of the former masters. (This was more true, here, than in post feudal Europe, at least on the continent.)

For a powerful witness to the point, see Booker T. Washington's classic address at the Atlanta Exposition, in 1895.

Of course, the hate-driven writer of the article above, would never even conceive of people allied in common purpose & friendship across class & racial lines in the America he despises.

William Flax

81 posted on 07/14/2014 12:39:42 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: GeronL

I really like how the black man “gave permission to the followers to criticize Obama without the accusation of racism”,

firmly admitting that the left uses accusations of racism to silence any criticism of Obama.


82 posted on 07/14/2014 12:41:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes, he did exactly that


83 posted on 07/14/2014 12:42:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nathanbedford
There is an article on a companion thread which describes the negative influence of Valerie Jarrett on the President of the United States and many FReepers have offered up their theories as to why she should have such power over Obama. I tend to think of it as not so much a power that Jarrett enjoys over Obama but a common worldview they mutually possess and mutually reinforce.

Obama is very articulate and he's very clever, as most narcissists are, and he is smart enough and wary enough not to betray himself often but I think he shares everyone of the preposterous notions outlined in this article but he is too clever and too articulate to be caught out often.

I have a completely different take on this thought.

I do believe that Obama shares a common worldview, and is articulate in front of a crowd when he has a teleprompter to read from. He's a stammering idiot without one, though.

For a more relevant, though fictional, comparison, I'd say that Valerie Jarrett is more like Angela Lansbury's Mrs. Iselin and Obama is more like James Gregory's Senator Iselin from the original movie The Manchurian Candidate.

Jarrett is clearly handling Obama, and sending him out day after day with a very scripted and pointed message for the day. The daily message is crafted to conflict with prior messages so as to get the media to focus on the changing side-story and not about what is really going on. In other words, creating a distraction from the real agenda.

In my view, Obama is a puppet, saying and doing what he's told to say and do. When he strays, just as Iselin strayed, he gets flustered and runs back for help. Obama is not the clever, articulate, and smart person that Jarrett has presented him to be. From the other article, Jarrett NEVER leaves his side. She eats with him in the residence, she travels with him on vacations, she's the only non-family who calls him by his first name. She is the brains behind the outfit, and Obama is just the straight man.

-PJ

84 posted on 07/14/2014 12:43:30 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Contemporary movement conservatism is a cult and religion.

Hey Chauncey DeVega! It's either one or the other, you silly damp hairball you.
85 posted on 07/14/2014 1:02:47 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Political Junkie Too

And, she’s a freaking alien from V!


86 posted on 07/14/2014 1:04:28 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a bunch of racist BS.

Sure. The black reverend hanging around in the lobby was just some Uncle Tom coon, right Chauncey?
There’s no way a black man could possibly agree with all those white troglodytes.
Every thing this guy says, everything he notices, everything he writes is written from the racist side of the fence.
“You n-s get back on my side!” he might as well say.


87 posted on 07/14/2014 1:09:26 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Doesn’t seem to me like he learned a damn thing.
He went in with a preconceived notion and came out with it firmly intact.


88 posted on 07/14/2014 1:10:38 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lots of foolishness here but the notion that the ‘United States practiced slavery for centuries’ stands out as the practice was outlawed before the nations centennial.

That particular comment for some reason annoyed me more than others.


89 posted on 07/14/2014 1:11:43 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: ansel12
Yeah, but this rant embodies the beliefs of close to a quarter of our population and over a third of under thirties types.
90 posted on 07/14/2014 1:14:25 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: originalbuckeye

55

Like a guard dog barking at other dogs walking past his fence.


91 posted on 07/14/2014 1:21:26 PM PDT by servo1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Always throw in Fox News.


92 posted on 07/14/2014 1:21:38 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: dead

Libs don’t have balls. That’s why they’re libs.


93 posted on 07/14/2014 1:25:08 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a hard time taking someone named Chauncey seriously.


94 posted on 07/14/2014 1:26:25 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-— As I learned earlier this week, their warped logic and skewed perception of social and political reality is extremely dangerous and can/will lead to more incidents of Right-wing domestic violence, because how else would a reasonable person deal with a government that is led by “traitors” and under the control of Satan? -—

Mmmm-Kay.


95 posted on 07/14/2014 1:29:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: dead
He writes like his balls are in a vice

If he indeed has balls he is a step ahead of Obama.

96 posted on 07/14/2014 1:31:00 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
For more on what Chauncy's about, check out chaunceydevega.com, titled "We Are Respectable Negroes". His current top post, titled Why is Eric Holder Finally Telling the Truth About the Republican Party's Racist Opposition to Barack Obama? will tell you all you need to know.
97 posted on 07/14/2014 1:44:52 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The bigotry is strong in this one.


98 posted on 07/14/2014 2:49:00 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, which FReeper put fresh poison ivy into Chauncey DeVega’s drawers?


99 posted on 07/14/2014 2:55:48 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: cynwoody

Back at ya:

‘Hobby Lobby’ in Context: How Long Will the Unholy Alliance of Christian Dominionists, 1 Percenters, and Libertarians Last?
http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2014/07/hobby-lobby-in-context-how-long-will.html


100 posted on 07/14/2014 3:09:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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