Russia not an "Advanced or Developed" Country, by Barack Obama's Measure

Gun Watch ^ | 19 June, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Chart from Crime Prevention Research Center

 Barack Obama made the following statement about "gun violence". 

‘There’s no advanced, developed country on Earth that would put up with this’, he said. ‘This is becoming the norm and we take it for granted in ways that, as a parent, are terrifying to me… If public opinion does not demand change in Congress, it will not change.’

"Gun violence" is a propaganda term.  It emphasises violence committed with guns as somehow worse and less appropriate than violence committed with bombs or axes or nerve gas or machetes.   This is done to push for political actions that would otherwise not be defensible or acceptable.

Let us put that aside, and assume that Barack Obama really meant that "there is no advanced, developed country on Earth that would put up with this" (meaning the level of unjustified violence in the United States).   For the sake of simplification, I will assume that he means unjustified homicides.

What countries does this put outside of Barack Obama's definition of "advanced, developed countries"?   Clearly, it means any countries that have a higher level of unjustified homicides than the United States, because in his definition, the United States is higher than any other "advanced, developed country".

These would include Russia, Ukraine, Estonia, Brazil, Mexico, Jamaica, South Africa, Venezuela, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Chile, as examples.

Rather interesting that Russia is not considered "advanced" or "developed" by Barack Obama.

The article that the chart was taken from at the Crime Prevention Research Center, has a much more sophisticated analysis of the "advanced and developed" scam.   It is just another way to cherry pick data to arrive at predetermined conclusions.

We could as easily make up another category, such as "New World Counties" or "Large, multi-ethnic countries",   both of which would show that the U.S. does rather well in comparison to the others.  The United States is much closer to Russia in its scope and diversity than it is to Finland.  International comparisons are quite complex; simplistic comparisons mislead more than inform.

It is culture that is the predominant factor in homicide rates, not the availability of a certain weapon type.   If the culture trusts the justice system and believes that the rule of law will prevail, homicide rates drop like a rock.  In the United States there are significant subgroups that do not trust the rule of law, and that is where most of the homicide occurs.

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[marktwain]

If they are "not advanced", why did we let them take the Crimea?

The Dane Geld:

Dane-geld (A.D. 980-1016) Rudyard Kipling

IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation, To call upon a neighbour and to say:— “We invaded you last night—we are quite prepared to fight, Unless you pay us cash to go away.”

And that is called asking for Dane-geld, And the people who ask it explain That you’ve only to pay ’em the Dane-geld And then you’ll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation, To puff and look important and to say:— “Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you. We will therefore pay you cash to go away.”

And that is called paying the Dane-geld; But we’ve proved it again and again, That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation, For fear they should succumb and go astray, So when you are requested to pay up or be molested, You will find it better policy to say:—

“We never pay any-one Dane-geld, No matter how trifling the cost; For the end of that game is oppression and shame, And the nation that plays it is lost!”

[DesertRhino]

wow

[jsanders2001]

Try them 0. I bet Putin would swat you like a fly with a Topol 12M

[GBA]

Russia not an "Advanced or Developed" Country, by Barack Obama's Measure

obama is not an "Advanced or Developed" human, by Experience's and Result's Measure

[grania]

If a nation is defined by its culture, Russia is much higher on the civilization scale than is a WH which idolizes JZ and Beyonce, for example.

[Roman_War_Criminal]

And the WH culture is from the pit of hell...

[RGF]

And if we compared Democrap run cities, where would that be placed? And if we took those cities out of the US calculation, where would we end up?

[grania]

Actually, without the Democratic cities such as NYC, Boston, and SanFrancisco, we’d lose a lot of the symphonies, museums and theater (etc) in the US.

[varmintman]

Glad to see I’m not the only person on Earth to have noticed that...

[varmintman]

Believe it or not there are little towns in Texas with their own opera theaters and what not:

http://www.bastropoperahouse.com

[wetphoenix]

Russia vs Obamaland in pictures:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-DwYQ1aKk_8

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aBn4B_8FewQ

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Ua3xyYb9c

Of course it is biased, but there is some perspective.

[Resolute Conservative]

That means no tax money to NPR or the endowment? Boo hoo.

[Natufian]

Wow Obama got something right for a change.