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WA:Governments Should Always Pay for Damaged Property
Gun Watch ^ | 29 May, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/29/2014 5:34:32 AM PDT by marktwain


In Washington State, a homeowner is asking why the City of Renton is not willing to pay for extensive damages done to her home by a City SWAT team, on a search for her son who was not there.

From kirotv.com:


For more than four hours, SWAT team members fired grenades through walls and windows and blasted in the doors with explosives.

De La Torre came home from work while police were still there.

“(An officer) just kinda shook his head and said, ‘I am so sorry, ma’am. It’s your house and it’s…ruined; we destroyed it,’” she said. “Police officers and detectives that were there told me to file a claim with the city of Renton.
Clearly, MS De La Torre was not guilty of any crime.   The destruction of her home is, in effect a tax imposed on her without any due process.    If such destruction is necessary to enforce the rule of law, then the cost should be spread among the taxpayers that hire those who did the damage, as they all benefit from the rule of law and are the ones who could have mitigated the amount of damage done.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: government; property; taking; taxes
Government enforcers often destroy more property value than the law calls for in fines. This is essentially extra-legal punishment, and should not be allowed.
1 posted on 05/29/2014 5:34:33 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Wonder what the insurance company has to say about it?


2 posted on 05/29/2014 5:36:07 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

I wonder what the ambulance chasers have to say...

I also wonder if the members of the SWAT team have personal insurance policies to cover their share...


3 posted on 05/29/2014 5:37:58 AM PDT by MortMan (Avoid temporary variables and strange women.)
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To: marktwain

What was the reasoning behind shooting grenades at an empty house for 4 hours?


4 posted on 05/29/2014 5:42:12 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: marktwain

I agree with the thought, but not with the word “always”. If an alleged criminal runs away from police and barricades himself in his own house, then he should not be compensated as he had a hand in the destruction of his property.

For most other cases, I agree. This is especially relevant when government either takes away property or restricts its use for environmental/endagered species reasons. Since we all supposedly benefit from the loss of the property owner, the pain should be spread out among taxpayers, and maybe the resulting strain on public budgets would bring back sanity to the rapacious appetite of government so they would do it only when it makes sense.


5 posted on 05/29/2014 5:42:21 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: DManA
Wonder what the insurance company has to say about it?

Not covered because of one of the following, I'm guessing

Act of God?
Civil unrest?
[Suspected] Commission of a crime?
There's probably some sort of disclaimer in the policy related to the government's involvement.

6 posted on 05/29/2014 5:42:34 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: marktwain

It was all worth it because the JBTs got to play with their nifty toys.


7 posted on 05/29/2014 6:17:11 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What was the reasoning behind shooting grenades at an empty house for 4 hours?

They heard a dog barking inside? Finally got him with a grenade.

8 posted on 05/29/2014 6:28:33 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: winner3000
"If an alleged criminal runs away from police and barricades himself in his own house, then he should not be compensated as he had a hand in the destruction of his property."

It does not take much to be an alleged criminal.

9 posted on 05/29/2014 6:51:48 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: marktwain

A man’s home is his castle, and these days, it needs to be built like a castle to protect from random SWAT teams.


10 posted on 05/29/2014 6:52:04 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Colorado Doug

Like I have said before, the SWAT team is only for show and to give the paramilitary types something to do. In a situation such as Columbine or Sandy Hook, the SWAT team will wait safely inside their armored vehicles until the coast is clear.


11 posted on 05/29/2014 6:55:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: marktwain

I know the laws of Washington very well. Governments agencies almost always deny the claims, but almost always end up paying for the damage.

Assuming she has homeowners insurance, the insurance company will pay and then the insurance company will go after the government.


12 posted on 05/29/2014 6:57:28 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“It looked really cool”... /s


13 posted on 05/29/2014 6:58:30 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: marktwain
"If such destruction is necessary to enforce the rule of law, then the cost should be spread among the taxpayers that hire those who did the damage, as they all benefit from the rule of law and are the ones who could have mitigated the amount of damage done."

The above statement may be true, in a free republic, but not under communist dictatorship.

14 posted on 05/29/2014 7:33:58 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I know, but very rarely should anybody be resisting arrest and putting others in danger. But apart from that, everyone else should get compensated for damaged property.


15 posted on 06/01/2014 12:31:52 PM PDT by winner3000
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