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Hmmm... these guys who were at Bundy Ranch all week, suspect this was a false flag set up, and that .gov sent those BLM agents in there to be slaughtered.
1 posted on 04/14/2014 11:39:05 AM PDT by ponygirl
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Watching the video later, I wondered why they did not close down the I-15 freeway and had traffic moving through there while this was happening.


2 posted on 04/14/2014 11:42:47 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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While the standoff under the bridge was going on, there are videos on Youtube of LVPD gathering not far away, with enough jail busses for a couple of hundred people.

The BLM “contractors” did threaten to shoot the crowd, that is on tape.

The only thing that kept this from becoming a bloodbath Dems would use to take away guns and freedoms was the fact that Harry Reid’s links got out, and started being mentioned by Celebs like Charlie Daniels on Twitter, and the MSM.


3 posted on 04/14/2014 11:43:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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bfl


4 posted on 04/14/2014 11:50:51 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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With all those new semis and fancy tactical gear?


6 posted on 04/14/2014 11:51:27 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Now this is definitely something to be considered. False flag within a false flag within an illegal taking by government under color of law.

End goal -> Martial Law and no more Constitutional Republic.


8 posted on 04/14/2014 12:04:20 PM PDT by The Working Man
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Yup.

Was wondering why there were not more reinforcements from the federales.

Coulda brought in a division if they wanted to. Posse Comitatus be damned.

The Americans didn’t take the bait....and the truth got out.

On FR, no less.


10 posted on 04/14/2014 12:06:53 PM PDT by Regulator
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it appears this government needs victims on both sides for it to succeed. The BLM thugs should have stood by their oath and they would’ve not been put in such a dangerous position. Maybe next time the gov tries this crap, those in uniform will not be so obliged to follow unconstitutional orders. i wonder if that murdering POS Lon Horiuchi is watching all of this.


12 posted on 04/14/2014 12:09:47 PM PDT by drypowder
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If the Feds lose the battle, it creates a basis for dramatic erosion of the 2nd Amendment, even via Presidential Executive orders.

Congress, if the BLM guys were slaughtered, would probably pass, even with a Repub House, some very anti-2A legislation.

On the other hand, if the people lost the battle and got slaughtered, it opens up a massive political can of worms for all current members of Congress - starting with Harry Reid.

If the people lost the battle, it would bolster support for the 2A tremendously.

We have to be prepared to sacrifice, and keep our faith in Jesus Christ.

We can’t allow the dark powers that long ago hijacked our government to unlawfully take our rights and our property. We can’t, however, rid ourselves of this evil by offensive military operations, because, as the video says, we will simply provide the excuse for totalitarianism. We will have to simply, firmly and calmly stand in self-defense, having full assurance that God is with us, and accept God’s will in our continuing advancement of his Kingdom.

I thought the government forces had a much better tactical position and resources than they did; I thought the Bundy supporters were going to be a sacrifice. I prayed that God in Jesus’ name that he would resolve this event according to his will. I prayed that God would not permit evil to triumph over good.

I think my prayer was answered, I thank God.


13 posted on 04/14/2014 12:13:44 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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bump for later...


14 posted on 04/14/2014 12:15:31 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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Sounding more and more like a certain book with a yellow cover.


18 posted on 04/14/2014 12:28:20 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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A video? Writing stuff is a lost art.


20 posted on 04/14/2014 12:31:09 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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NOTE: I AM NOT ADVOCATING THIS.

But, the whole Alamo-last-stand thing is pretty frickin stupid. The might of the federal government is massive, and they would eventually win.

The only way to win against a force like that is political or, if too corrupt or entrenched to deal with peacefully or in the media, through asymmetric warfare.

For example, Alquada’s biggest mistake was trying to make a grand stand in Iraq. That war, for all its errors, was a great draw for muslim loonies throughout the world, drawing them there to fight our hardened troops far, far, away from the shore of the USA.

The really, really, nasty groups (Mexico Cartel, various prison gangs) don’t try to fight armed cops. They follow the cops, lawyers, government people, home and go shoot them in their beds.

And it works (in Mexico and other hell holes).

Anyway, long way of saying, I DO NOT SUPPORT anti-government violence in any way, shape, or form, but if any of these people were to be effective, they’d think about some sort of asymmetric way of going about their business.

It could even be passive aggressive, like laying down in front of bulldozers. This would have the advantage of: (1) playing to Americans’ since of supporting the underdog (2) not creating a martyr (on the wrong side) and (3) a tactic the Left/MSM understands and would appreciate.

Or geared to property damage, etc. The ELF people do this. (They are the most violent domestic terrorists, BTW.)

AGAIN, THIS IS JUST A OBSERVATIONAL COMMENT RE: STRATEGY.

Not an incitement to do something stupid.


22 posted on 04/14/2014 12:32:01 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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Somebody needs to do one of those videos where “Hitler finds out” his attack on the Bundys of Bunkerville failed, at every level. It would have been priceless to see Obama’s face when he learned the news.


26 posted on 04/14/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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The only thing false IMO was the assumption the BLM made made about how many Bundy supporters would show up: And more were on the way. Custer made a similar mistake.




30 posted on 04/14/2014 1:07:18 PM PDT by caveat emptor (!)
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Just wondering why the two guys in the video keep wondering if the BLM agents could have been foreign contractors?


35 posted on 04/14/2014 1:32:29 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 ((VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!))
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It seems like America always starts its wars with a devastating loss.

Lexington, Pearl Harbor, World Trade Center, etc.

But the loss just pisses us off and sets the stage for the rest of the conflict.


42 posted on 04/14/2014 2:23:35 PM PDT by DNME (This is the government our Founders warned us about.)
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Bookmarking


45 posted on 04/14/2014 2:39:35 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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bookmark


50 posted on 04/14/2014 3:51:10 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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