Posted on 03/02/2014 3:59:10 PM PST by Errant
As the book of the Revelation comes to a close, we are left with some very important words. Keep his commandments, know his Torah, and make yourself ready to be the bride of the King. He is coming quickly. Join Michael Rood for the final episode in the series From Here to Eternity – Yeshua’s Famous Last Words: Amen, Emet, Truth.
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Galatians 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Galatians 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. 10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: 11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
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The Natzari Yeshua vs. The Karaite Yeshua
www.synagoguechm.com/articles/thenatzariyeshuavskairite.pdf
The Natzari Yeshua vs. The Karaite Yeshua A critical review and correction of Nehemia Gordon’s, “The Hebrew Yeshua vs. The Greek Jesus” By Shliha Yeremyah
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There is some Hebrew pun info here
http://www.derekleman.com/musings/why-nehemiah-gordon-is-wrong-part-1/
Here is more info. I hope some of the links give you a better picture of what Gordon and Rood say although this one paints rood very badly.
http://www.seekgod.ca/roodkaraite.htm
I tried to find writings to present both sides however I have not come across Rood or Gordon writings, just film
I am being perfectly consistent.
Then it all needs to be kept and if it isn't, we are guilty.
Yep.
Do you stone the adulterous?
First, learn the principle of 'Casting the First Stone'.
Secondly, that is a judiciary matter - In no case can one just pick up a rock and start stoning someone. There is due process. So that law is above my pay grade. As it concerns !ME!, until someone is found guilty and sentenced, I have no right to pick up the stone.
So you show yourself to the priest for skin lesions?
I am a priest, and so are you.
To whom do you give the tenth of your produce/income?
Well to my church, of course.
>> “I believe ES claimed all the world is Israel” <<
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Truth is so hard for the Churchian Empty Grace crowd.
I said it is the lion share of the world’s population.
That is tough for those that dismiss prophecy.
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The “Romans” to whom Paul wrote were northern Israelites.
Keep on banging your head against that fact all you want.
“The Election” is the remnant of Israel.
Biblical illiteracy hurts!
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I would have liked to have entered the fray (lol) early on, but such is the disruption of being an OTR driver.
**Yehova is Elohim, Yeshua is the very same Elohim, born into the body of a man when his spirit conceived in Mary’s womb.**
??’born’?? Elohim has no beginning, no birth. The soul of the Son of God is the first born of every creature. The “body thou hast prepared me” came later.
Every one seems to want to define the Godhead in ‘their own words’. Nothing wrong with that. But, the Christ, and his apostles do far better:
John 1:18. “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosm of the Father, he hath declared him.”
1Timothy 3:16 “And without controversy great is the mystery of Godliness: God was manifest in the flesh”..(not ‘born’, but visibly expressed to mankind)..”justified in the Spirit,”..(the words and works of God proving the Christ’s annointing)..”seen of angels, PREACHED unto the GENTILES, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
“..true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit:”..(not a man)..”and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth”. John 4:23,24
“Father, the hour is come....that they may know thee the ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” John 17:1-3
The Christ explains THOROUGHLY that the Father is a Spirit, and that he is in the Father and the Father in him. He shows that everything he did in word or deed was by the power of the Father in him. He testifies of the Holy Ghost proceeding from the Father, and by that Spirit, doing works of the Father. But, says that the Comforter is going to make believers do similar, even greater works.
John witnessed to this, saying, “No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is PERFECTED in us.”..(which includes the ability to testify without carnal pride and arrogance)..”Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit”. 1John 4:12,13
While you proclaim one God, and refuse (correctly) a three separate and distinct persons Godhead, you seem to portray God to be two persons. Also, do you ever use the terms “God the Son”, or “God the Holy Ghost”?
There is no such thing as Holy Ghost, it is called Holy Spirit. God is not represented by ‘ghost’. Translators and busy digits were out to lunch.
>> “I have not come across Rood or Gordon writings, just film” <<
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Then your effort has been quite feeble.
Gordon has written some of the most spiritually significant books of our time.
“The Hebrew Yeshua vs. The Greek Jesus”
“Shattering The Conspiracy of Silence”
“A Prayer To Our Father,” co-authored with Keith Johnson.
Rood also has some excellent books, two of them being absolute “must reads.”
“The Mystery of Iniquity”
“The Pagan-Christian Connection”
All of these turn up easily on searches.
Keith Johnson is easily the Holy Spirit’s chief messenger on planet Earth.
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“Ghost” is basically German for “spirit.”
It may well be, but 'ghost' is not reflective of the Holy Spirit. And it is not from the language from which it was first spoken.
>> “Yes, I do believe Gordon is biased. Just as agnostic and atheist scholars have bias.” <<
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Yes, of course, any writer or speaker is biased, but Nehemia Gordon’s is in direct opposition to agnostics and atheists. His bias is chiefly for the revealing and preservation of the ancient scriptures of Yehova, and upholding the true meaning thereof.
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>> “Explain why a Christian would want to swallow whole whatever a self-admitted non-Christian, Jewish theologian declares about the Christian faith and the sacred Scriptures that form the basis of our faith?” <<
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You continue to inject your wicked falsehoods into your every post.
While it ie true that Gordon makes no claim of Christianity, he is not a theologian of any kind. He is the world’s foremost expert on the ancient scriptures’ pure content.
Theologians are deniers of God’s word, every one of them. They dedicate their lives and reputations to the twisting of the clear meaning of the scriptures for the glorification of men.
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What is the purpose of your post?
What you demonstrate is those that join themselves to Israel.
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I think the more appropriate term than ‘Jewish’ would be “Scriptural.”
Most of the Jewish establishment was Pharisaical, which is 100% of what Yeshua fought to expose and dismantle. (Matthew 15, and 23)
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In the US south, ghost is the prevalent term, while in the rest of the country, spirit is dominant.
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Errant, it is time to lighten up on Redleg.
He is an honest poster, not a stone thrower, so the sarcasm is not appropriate.
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I have posted examples and links a hundred times around here by now. So I refuse to provide a compendium yet again. If you have a desire, you are readily capable of seeking out the information without sending me through the hoops yet again.
That being said, start your search here: "The Semitic Style of the New Testament" by Michael D. Marlowe, which discusses 'Hebraisms' in the NT by an author with a Greek primacy viewpoint. While not addressing Hebrew Puns explicitly, one can get a pretty good idea of the scope of undeniably Hebrew thought in the books, even though the author awkwardly, almost painfully ignores the obvious.
Secondly, what a Hebrew word pun is: Hebrew Word Puns
And lastly, an exhaustive treatise by James Trimm : Was the New Testament written in Hebrew? A Collection of Evidence Supporting Original Hebrew-Aramaic New Testament, which is the best compendium of information I have found thus far that lays out the case for an Hebrew primacy. As he writes, Hebrew puns, parallelisms, and Hebraisms are annotated in his HRV New Testament - So if you care to, you will no doubt find them all there (though I don't know, having never read it, being convinced by a somewhat longer and circuitous route).
BUMP that for redleghunter!
AND for the stonethrowers, all the way around. 'Sinking to their level' is not instructive IMHO.
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