Our obedience is to ‘a Person’.....Jesus...... He's perfectly capable of enabling us to follow Him and does.
Posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:46 AM PST by Errant
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Our obedience is to ‘a Person’.....Jesus...... He's perfectly capable of enabling us to follow Him and does.
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I listen quite well and have been trying to show you how to listen.
John 14:
[15] If ye love me, keep my commandments.
[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[18] I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
[19] Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
[21] He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
[22] Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
[24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
John 15:
[10] If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
[11] These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
[12] This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
[13] Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
[14] Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
You cannot lay claim to believing in him if you don't believe enough to follow these simple words
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>> “OK. So if there is no Temple in Jerusalem, and if there is no consecrated priesthood or place to do sacrifices, then how do you keep the commandments?” <<
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Those are not the commandments he addresses.
He is clearly speaking of the commandments that affect our personal condition.
When he declared “It is finished” on the cross, he caused the oblation to become void. After that, the red ribbon never turned white again. He was the perfect sacrifice whose blood renewed the broken covenant with his bride.
I thought that you knew these things? I learned that in a Baptist Sunday school in 1953.
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Nobody said that we shouldn’t obey the commandments.
When we are saved and God writes His Law on our hearts, we WILL obey them because we WANT to, not because we HAVE to to become saved.
There’s a world of difference there.
We are saved by grace without works being necessary or required, we are kept by grace, we are enabled by grace to walk in the good works that God had prepared in advance for us to do, because it is HE who works in us to will and to do according to HIS good pleasure.
Keeping the commandments or not keeping the commandments does not affect our status as redeemed, blood bought children of God in the least. It does have an effect on the rewards we are to receive for faithful service, but as far as salvation, that’s a done deal.
James 1:25
>> “When we are saved and God writes His Law on our hearts, we WILL obey them because we WANT to, not because we HAVE to to become saved.” <<
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You have cause and effect disconnected there.
You need to re-read James’ epistle a few times to get the full understanding.
He writes the commandments on our hearts because if he didn’t, there is no way we would be saved.
We have to be conformed to him to be saved.
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You’ve stated ....that Christ’s work in us is to ‘write his commandments on our hearts’ and that without this there is not going to be any salvation.
You cannot have the heart of Jesus without re-birth..”You must be Born Again”...said Jesus.
When God says.... “I will write my laws in their heart”,....... he is not saying he will inscribe the 10 commandments into your heart. .....He is saying He is replacing your heart of stone, with the heart of the person described in Psalm 40....” Jesus”..... God is replacing your heart with the heart of Jesus...... God is replacing your Adamic nature with the nature of His Son.
You cannot have the heart of Jesus without re-birth..Jesus said....”You must be Born Again”.
Zacharius had difficulty understanding this as he thought Jesus meant he’d have to go back into his mother’s womb....Jesus clarified this in that it’s a spiritual birth..”Born from Above”....”Born of God”....”Born Again”....Re-Birth.
But scripture tells us that faith comes from God.
Romans 12:3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Through hearing the word of God.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
And that Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith.
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
...”We have to be conformed to him to be saved”...
No.... we are first saved and then through Jesus we are conformed by the work of the Holy Spirit in us.
Which ones of the 613 and where can we find that list from the New Testament? Surely Paul or one of the apostles clarified which ones we are still to keep right?
No! there is no salvation until the last trump!
That is when we are saved, when we put on incorruption.
Since you’re such a great Bible scholar, I’ll let you read Leviticus for yourself. Then it will be perfectly clear to you. But if it isn’t, there is clarification in Deuteronomy.
So we sort of earn our salvation?
First Thessalonians 4:16 refers to the “trump of God”.... but does not identify it as the trumpet sounded by the seventh angel.
A number of remarkable events are described as occurring when this seventh trumpet is sounded (Rv 11:15-19) , but the resurrection and Rapture are NOT mentioned, nor do they fit this timing.
The first three chapters of Revelation are about events happening to the church on earth..... Then suddenly a “door is opened in heaven”.. (Rv 4:1)... and John is commanded, “Come up hither....” ...That is the last we hear of the church on earth.
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life." (John 5:24)
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
Rom. 5:1, "therefore having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,"
It’s a done deal. The law does nothing pertaining to salvation.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Oh no. That was the old covenant. You need to show us where Paul or the apostles taught that it was part of the new covenant. None of us can find it in the New Testament.
That is quite a stretch. The law of Moses is history. The new covenant (new testament) is based on liberty: not ordinances:
"And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (Col 2:13-17 KJV)
"Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, (Touch not; taste not; handle not; Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men?" (Col 2:20-22 KJV)
James' theme is how to use the newfound liberty found in Christ in Godly ways, for example:
"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." (James 1:27)
That was James' idea of "works." He integrates the Law of the Lord (the golden rule) into his preaching about the necessity of works, even mentioning the law directly as the "Royal Law."
"If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well. But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors." (James 2:8-9)
The last verse is very important to understand. Under the old covenant God had no respect of persons among the twelve tribes, but respect of persons between Israel and the heathen. Under the new covenant, he has no respect of persons whatsoever. Every person will be judged according to their adherence to the law of the Lord, which is the Royal Law: to love thy neighbour as thyself.
Others spoke among the early Christians about how one should handle their newly found liberty: liberty unheard of under the traditions of the Rabbis:
"But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." (1 Cor 8:9 KJV)
"Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage." (Gal 5:1 KJV)
"As free, and not using your liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God." (1 Pet 2:16 KJV)
Philip
>> “That is quite a stretch. The law of Moses is history.” <<
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That is utter nonsense!
Have you ever read Matthew ch 5?
Torah has another 1000 years to go to match Yehova’s promise in that chapter.
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