Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come)

A Rood Awakening Tv ^ | 7 February 2014 | Michael Rood

[Errant]

Parenthetical clauses are used throughout scripture to explain how, why, when and where in close proximity to the main subject and verb.

Parentheses in the book of The Revelation explain cause and effect. They tie together the events that happen previously, to the events that transpire subsequently on the prophetic timeline. Unfortunately, parentheses, as a literary devise, come centuries after the actual parenthetical clauses so prevalent in both Hebrew and Greek linguistic constructions. Because of their late arrival into the English language, the parentheticals in the book of The Revelation have never been either deservedly researched or accurately articulated. Now, after more than 40 years in the making, The Chronological Gospels is complete with all of the extensive parenthetical clauses accurately assigned throughout the book of The Revelation.

Now, with its impending fulfillment looming large on the horizon, The Revelation can finally be understood with clarity and lived with integrity. This one feature (the parenthetical clauses in The Revelation) in The Chronological Gospels is worth one thousand times the price of the book itself.

Join Michael Rood for the first of the last four teachings on the very last book of the Bible, “Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come)”.

[caww]

...>>Want to build another man made doctrine around that?<<....

..Well,...you're talking to the wrong person about man made doctrine...Michael Roods your guy for that, he's done a 'broad' swath on his path. I prefer the upper level and He who leads on that path.. Jesus Christ ....who gives "Hind Feet for High Places".....

[editor-surveyor]

>>”Scholars for centuries have taught that scripture does indeed testify to the triune nature of God.” <<

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But Yeshua never appointed any “scholar” to create any doctrine, and no “scholar” has ever produced any scripture that sets Elohim’s unit count at three.

You’ve done a long tap dance for the privilege of kissing some pope’s anatomy.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “.Well,...you’re talking to the wrong person about man made doctrine...Michael Roods your guy for that” <<

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Have you figured out what you’re going to say to Yeshua at the Great White Throne about your deliberate false accusation against his faithful servant?

That is inevitable, and you really ought to work on it.

While you’re at it, think something up for your Dispy doodles, and your pre-trib oops!

[CynicalBear]

>>Why can you not grasp the obvious fact that Yeshua being “God” does not make Elohim “triune?”<<

So who was Jesus praying to?

Luke 23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

Matthew 26:39: And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

>>Have you forgotten the seven spirits in Revelation?<<

Once again. It is not we who are accusing anyone of making up the triune nature of God. It is incumbent on those accusing us to show where we are wrong.

>>Want to build another man made doctrine around that?<<

How about you prove us wrong on the triune God before we go down some rabbit trail.

[Iscool]

Have you figured out what you’re going to say to Yeshua at the Great White Throne about your deliberate false accusation against his faithful servant?

I won't be there...I will have already gone up in the 1st resurrection...

[CynicalBear]

>>but that still doesn’t bring in the “triune” addition.<<

Well then how about you show us from scripture where we are wrong.

[CynicalBear]

>> You’ve done a long tap dance for the privilege of kissing some pope’s anatomy.<<

So who did Jesus pray to? And while you’re at it. If Jesus said only God was to be worshiped why were the angels told to worship Jesus?

[editor-surveyor]

I have proven you and every other lost soul that buys into that man made nonsense wrong.

That is why you are squirming and posting massive amounts of unrelated scripture as a smoke screen.

There is no “triune” anything in Yehova’s word.

All that we do is in Yeshua’s name alone.

[CynicalBear]

>>I have proven you and every other lost soul that buys into that man made nonsense wrong.<<

I must have missed it. Maybe you could point us to the post where you did that? Has anyone seen Editor prove us wrong on the triune nature of God?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “So who did Jesus pray to?” <<

Yeshua prayed to the Father, just as we pray to the Father, in Yeshua’s name.

Sad that you are in the dark on such an elementary thing.
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[caww]

Since they all are eternal and present in all the acts of God, responsible for the same activities. All three are the one ‘Elohim’, ....three in unity acting as the One God.

(All Three are called God)

The Father is God:

Gal.1:1 .......”Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;”

Phil.1:2..... “Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord”

Eph.1:3, 17; 3:14 ;4:6; 5:20; 1Thess.1:1; 3:11; 2 Thess.1:2; 2:16; Titus 1:4, 1 Pt.1:2-3

The Son is God:

Jn.1:1... “and the Word was with God and the word was God.”

1 Jn. 5:20..., and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”..... Isa.7:14; 9:6, Mt.1:23, Jn.20:28; Rom. 9:5 Col.2:9, Heb. 1:8-9; 1 Jn.5:11,12,21

The Holy Spirit is God:

Gen. 1:2, Acts 5:3-4, 1Cor.2:11, 1 Cor.6:19, 1 Cor.3:17..... To have the Spirit in you makes one the temple of God. .......”Now the Lord (Yahweh) is that Spirit” Isa. 11:2..... The Spirit of the Lord. Rom.8:9-16

(All three Are Eternal simultaneously existing)

“the Father is eternal”.....James 1:17

:the Son is eternal:...... Hebrews 13:8.... “ Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever.” ....Micah 5:2 ....” speaking of Jesus-whose goings forth are from old (ancient times) from everlasting (eternity)”

“the Holy Spirit is eternal”.... Heb. 9:14 “God is spirit” Jn.4:24

All three were responsible for creation:

the Father was involved in the creation;.... ( Eph. 3:14, Mal 2:10)

the Son was involved in the creation......( Jn.1:3, Heb. 1:2 Col. 1:16 )All things were made through him.

the Holy Spirit was involved in the creation..... ( Ps. 104:30, Job 26:13 “By his Spirit he made the heavens Job33:4

There is one God whose essence is Spirit, who has revealed himself in 3 persons..... That the Father is God unbegotten. That Christ Jesus is God begotten of the father..... Being the Son of God (the word) from eternity. ....Who took on human flesh by his virgin birth..... He died and rose in the same body and sits at the right hand of the Father until he returns. ..That the H. Spirit is God just as the Father and Son are...

All are different personalities which share in the same essence of uncreated Spirit....

Those who claim a contradiction that one cannot be three, do not take the time to hear what we are saying. What we are not saying is that they are one and three in the same exact sense. We are saying God is one in a certain sense and is three in another.

When we say that they are all personal, we distinguish that there are necessary elements that constitute personality in each one. Each has a will, intellect and emotions, besides different titles and names they function in that express their attributes and abilities. All this makes them different personalities. These distinctions do not take away from their unity as one God. For example, It is the Son who died for all mankind, the Father and the Spirit did not. The Son came in human flesh, and still is in the flesh, while the other two never came in the flesh.

Each person has a different position and function yet none act on their own but in unity. There is never more than 3 mentioned as God. All 3 are involved in creation and redemption of man. The Trinity that anti-Trinitarians most often represent is 1+1+1=3 Gods, this is not what we believe. Three persons in one nature; All three are the one God. All of these persons are eternal, co-equal in power and majesty, and as God, deserve our worship.

http://www.letusreason.org/trin11.htm

[editor-surveyor]

>> “How far am I?” <<

An eternity if you can’t see it.
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[caww]

Roody’s trying for the same and may very well reach it. Lots of “itchy ears” in the world today.

[editor-surveyor]

All three what?

We have a Father, and a Son, and their spirits, how many I’m not absolutely sure, depending on how one is to interpret the plain statement in Revelation that there are seven spirits of God.

[editor-surveyor]

You missed the fact that you are unable to point to the scripture that does not exist that supports your false “triune” doctrine.

So far I can count 1 Father, 1 son, and at least 7 spirits mentioned in the Word. Or is that 8 spirits?
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[caww]

One of the reasons the Romans crucified Jesus was because of His claims to be God.....the Jewish Leaders could not bare to imagine this as possible based on their mindset of that time.....but of course the leadership was looking for pretty much any reason they could take Jesus out of the picture. They were loosing their grasp on the people and weren’t about to forfeit that....

[Errant]

How about you prove us wrong on the triune God before we go down some rabbit trail.

What if we just have to wait until the full mystery of the Almighty is revealed to understand it all? It makes no difference what you believe about it, as long as you accept Yeshua as your Lord. No one here believes that Yeshua wasn't granted every power of the Almighty, including deity. The Almighty has placed Yeshua fully in charge with every authority necessary, including the power of life over death and final judgment.

You don't have to go twisting scripture to satisfy some human emotion about it or inability to comprehend that which our feeble little human brains are incapable of comprehending. The Almighty, Yeshua, and the Apostles left us clear instructions on what we are to do.

It's the tendency of man and his need to build doctrines around traditions, forcing others to believe as they, which causes much strife in the world.

Congrats on finally presenting some scripture concerning the matter and engaging in reasonable discussion about it. It's what we were told to do brother. I'm in the middle of something else now, but will offer up some scripture from the other perspective later if you wish?

Respectfully,

[CynicalBear]

>> Yeshua prayed to the Father, just as we pray to the Father, in Yeshua’s name.<<

Wait, let me get this straight. You said this.

>>Why can you not grasp the obvious fact that Yeshua being “God” does not make Elohim “triune?”<<

So if Jesus was “Elohim” which is translated God, and He was praying to the “Father” who was the Father? Was He not Elohim? Was He a different Elohim? Was He praying to himself? Have you made a different doctrine of just a dual person God? Please explain to us.

[metmom]

One of my favorite worship songs.

You are Holy (Prince of Peace) Michael W. Smith w/ lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_iP1QBsC98

[caww]

....”You’ve done a long tap dance for the privilege of ‘kissing some pope’s anatomy”...

Well what gutter did you recently climb out of?....and what makes you think any of us are Catholics engaging with you?

I’ve heard and seen some pretty harsh things said to Catholics but that gutter mouthed language really takes them all....just wow....