Posted on 02/09/2014 9:26:46 AM PST by Errant
Parenthetical clauses are used throughout scripture to explain how, why, when and where in close proximity to the main subject and verb.
Parentheses in the book of The Revelation explain cause and effect. They tie together the events that happen previously, to the events that transpire subsequently on the prophetic timeline. Unfortunately, parentheses, as a literary devise, come centuries after the actual parenthetical clauses so prevalent in both Hebrew and Greek linguistic constructions. Because of their late arrival into the English language, the parentheticals in the book of The Revelation have never been either deservedly researched or accurately articulated. Now, after more than 40 years in the making, The Chronological Gospels is complete with all of the extensive parenthetical clauses accurately assigned throughout the book of The Revelation.
Now, with its impending fulfillment looming large on the horizon, The Revelation can finally be understood with clarity and lived with integrity. This one feature (the parenthetical clauses in The Revelation) in The Chronological Gospels is worth one thousand times the price of the book itself.
Join Michael Rood for the first of the last four teachings on the very last book of the Bible, “Parenthetically Speaking (Before We Are Saved From the Wrath To Come)”.
Amazingly the movie actually ties in the “I Am” from the Old Testament through to John and connects it all to Jesus..from what some of the comments have stated. Impressive if so.
Here’s another preview of the movie ‘Son of God’....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLJNL6Ckvcw
Thanks for the video!
Show us where your imaginary “trinity” is in the scriptures please.
>>>Don’t assume that every cult member on this forum shares your particular heresy.<<<
Is that considered making it personal?
making it personal?
In bloggers and personal, everything is quite personal.
That is what this forum is for; slugging it out to get down to reality.
One has to have a ‘skin’ here.
Yep..and thanks for posting on this thread...always appreciate your posts.
>> “There is a difference between what you believe and what is written in 1 John 5:7, you know. I will stick to 1 John 5:7.” <<
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1 John 5 is about what John witnessed at the cross, and has nothing to do with any imaginary ‘trinity.’
The water and the blood from Yeshua poured down through the crack that formed when the Earth shook, and flowed down to the mercy seat on the ARK in the grotto below.
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Sigh... you are right. This is in Bloggers. The Religion Forum rules do not apply. I’ll remove my previous warning.
I have a better idea. You ignored my two previous posts to you, and didn't answer any of my questions, which basically tells me that talking to any of you guys here serves no purpose for you, personally. But since the cultists are feeling uppity, and have imagined for themselves greater powers than what they actually possess, I was thinking it would be smarter, rather than whipping butt and chewing bubble gum on a thread already 1000+ posts which probably not a lot of people are following anymore at this point, why not get together with Philip or Errant, figure out what it is you actually believe ABOUT the Trinity, and then start a new thread on it? If you do so, I promise to meet you all there, and to do great violence to your theology (or lack thereof).
Will you do this? I've made many requests of you in this thread, and none of have been accepted; however, if you think that you can defend your theology, and are confident in your victory, with the combined efforts of FR's other anti-Trinitarians, it cannot hurt for you guys to start a brand new thread on the topic, right? Then we can see how well you all really do.
Oops, I didn’t realize we were in bloggers.
Yeshua was a powerful enough man to scatter all of the animal sellers and money changers on the temple porch single-handed.
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Thank you very much!
So bashful!
We knew you couldn’t do it. - there is no trinity in Yehova’s word.
The creeds that you get your ‘theology’ from are completely man made religion.
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It’s cool, an easy mistake to make.
Glad to know that you’re following this chat!
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Uh, so is this a "yes" or a "no" on starting that new thread? Maybe your buddy Errant, when he figures out what he believes, can do it then? Or Philip? But, he is a modalist, and so you guys aren't really all that compatible. You probably want to avoid inter-cult warfare to join up against the bigger enemy, which is Christianity.
I will not pretend to answer for Greetings_Puny_Humans; but the "trinity" is a man-made word for the Father, Word and Holy Ghost found in 1 John 5:7 of the 1611 King James (Authorized) Version of the Bible, which reads:
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." (1 Jn 5:7 KJV)
[Many new-age versions of the bible have eliminated or watered-down 1 John 5:7 with brackets and footnotes.]
The recognition of the Trinity also comes from the so-called "Great Commission:"
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" (Mat 28:19 KJV)
The Son is also called the Word of God in the Revelation:
"And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." (Rev 19:13 KJV)
But in the first chapter of John is the real divinity of Christ revealed. Here we see the Word is God, and all things were created by God:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3 KJV)
Here we see the Word made flesh:
"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us…" (John 1:14 KJV)
And here we see Christ as the creator, which from verse 3 would mean that Christ is God:
"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not." (John 1:10 KJV)
If we dig further into John, we find:
"I and my Father are one." (John 10:30 KJV)
In case someone tries to explain away that statement, all one has to do is read the implied annoyance of Christ at Philip when Philip fails to recognize that Christ is the Father:
"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" (John 14:9 KJV)
And if that is not convincing enough, here is the Lord in the Old Testament explaining that He and Christ are the same:
"And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn." (Zec 12:10 KJV)
And there is this:
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isa 9:6 KJV)
And if anyone still believes that the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are not the same, they have to contend with this:
"And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one." (Zec 14:9 KJV)
And this:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" (Mark 12:29 KJV )
That said, you will not find the word "trinity" in the Bible; at least not in the King James Version.
Philip
>>>Uh, so is this a “yes” or a “no” on starting that new thread? Maybe your buddy Errant, when he figures out what he believes, can do it then? Or Philip? But, he is a modalist, and so you guys aren’t really all that compatible. You probably want to avoid inter-cult warfare to join up against the bigger enemy, which is Christianity.<<<
I wonder how difficult it would be to change my username to “A Cult of One!” LOL!
>> The recognition of the Trinity also comes from the so-called “Great Commission” <<
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In the original Hebrew Gospel of Matthew, it just says “in the name of the Son,” much like in Acts.
You guys simply aren’t interested in any evidence given of the Trinity , it’s been debated over and over again on many threads...and you guys still don’t get it nor will you...you can’t you’re eyes are veiled.
....”We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to prevent the Israelites from seeing the end of what was passing away....... But ‘their minds were made dull’, ....for to this day ‘the same veil remains’ when the old covenant is read.... It has not been removed, because ONLY in Christ is it taken away.
Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers ‘their hearts’..... But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away….
....And we, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit (2 Cor 3:13-18).
And thus, for some the veil remains. It is a veil that clouds ‘their minds and hearts’. This is not a veil of modesty or reverence, this is a veil of unknowing that must be removed by the gift of faith through Jesus Christ.
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