Posted on 02/07/2014 5:30:36 PM PST by Olog-hai
For the last 10 days, we’ve had something of a running debate among GOP columnists on the question of whether Republicans should de-emphasize social issues as part of a broader political strategy to appeal to more voters.
It began when Roger L. Simon penned a column titled “How Social Conservatives are Saving Liberalism (Barely).” Simon believes that social issues, specifically gay marriage, may keep Republicans from victory …
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You pinged me here to try to turn the subject to first Palin and the Tea party, which had nothing to do with my comments.
And those comments of yours to me never said 'so-con' as you claim here, they said Palin and Tea party.
RE :”So what was your original point?”
WTF??? If you don't even remember that than why do you waste my time?
You are clearly trying to avoid something, why not just speak from your core beliefs?
This is what I first posted to you, it is an accurate response to your post about Akin, and your post 52 revealed how ignorant you are about the Akin race that you introduced to the thread.
Michelle Bachmann was the Todd Akin supporter.
“To: sickoflibs
Akin was Michele Bachmann’s endorsement, not the GOPe, nor the tea party.
Akin was just a bad candidate that Palin and the tea party, and the establishment all tried to get out.
51 posted on 2/8/2014 1:08:22 AM by ansel12 “
Lol, I just noticed that you are sending out for help by pinging people.
For what I wonder?
I like how you turn to “polls” to establish what the Tea Party exists for.
Far be it for you to look at the Official Tea Party platforms...since the platforms refuse to claim ANY social conservatism.
The Democratic Party of America used to be “mostly” made up of Christians, too. We see how that’s turned out.
The Tea Party has successfully “used” Christians, to date. But, they refuse to champion their causes..other than letting them contribute their money and power, no social conservatism nor God will ever be in their official platforms.
??? LOL Go back to the comment that you originally responded to. Yes, I am not helping you highjack this into a Palin thread.
RE : This is what I first posted to you, it is an accurate response to your post about Akin, and your post 52 revealed how ignorant you are about the Akin race that you introduced to the thread.”
I didn't post anything about the Akin race. You replied to me with a comment about that subject of course really about Palin.
Do you have to turn every thread into a Palin thread?
Because when I spend time posting a comment I might as well have someone read them.
I know you wont.
Now what is your next comment about Palin that has nothing to do with this?
I never turned this into a Palin thread, but you are trying to.
To: Olog-hai; Impy; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj
If the best they can do on social issues is those like Todd Akin then yes they should abandon them.
Akin and a few others furthered Obama’s agenda better than any Dem did(Romney helped too).
Alternatively the Little Sisters of the Poor ad against the birth control mandate was a home run.
Losing to Dems just to say ‘I took a (losing) stand’ is a date in the book of irrelevance and sometimes idiocy.
50 posted on 2/8/2014 12:31:04 AM by sickoflibs (Obama : ‘Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ‘)
To: sickoflibs
Akin was Michele Bachmann’s endorsement, not the GOPe, nor the tea party.
Akin was just a bad candidate that Palin and the tea party, and the establishment all tried to get out.
51 posted on 2/8/2014 1:08:22 AM by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee — JFK told me that “he was all for people’s solving their problems by abortion”.)
To: ansel12
RE :”Akin was just a bad candidate that Palin and the tea party, and the establishment all tried to get out.”
You need to rephrase this last sentence.
Are you saying they all were against him?
52 posted on 2/8/2014 1:17:04 AM by sickoflibs (Obama : ‘Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ‘)
To: sickoflibs
Politico
“”Sarah Palin slammed GOP Senate hopeful Todd Akin’s decision to continue his bid for the Missouri seat and suggested that she might back a third-party challenger in an interview on Fox News on Tuesday night.
(snip)
Palin’s remarks came hours after Akin, in defiance of GOP influentials from Mitt Romney to the National Republican Senatorial Committee, refused to drop his challenge to Sen. Claire McCaskill, the incumbent Democratic senator from Missouri.
(snip)
Akin, she said, is not the one to secure the state for the Republicans.
(snip)
In the interview, Palin championed Sarah Steelman, who was her choice for the ticket in Missouri’s bloody Republican primary, and added that if Akin doesn’t drop out by the end of September, “it’s going to be a third party then.”
wiki
“” Other candidates in the August 2012 Republican primary included businessman John Brunner, author and business executive Mark Memoly, and former Missouri Treasurer Sarah Steelman.””
(different article, slate)
“”In 2010, yes, Sharron Angle and Christine O’Donnell blew elections that Republicans were on track to win. (The Nevada race that Angle lost was less of a sure thing—Harry Reid is underestimated at his enemies’ peril. But we’ll go with it.) In 2012, Richard Mourdock and Todd Akin lost elections that other Republicans could have won, but Todd Akin was not endorsed by any major national or local Tea Party organization.””
53 posted on 2/8/2014 1:32:28 AM by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee — JFK told me that “he was all for people’s solving their problems by abortion”.)
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To: sickoflibs
I left out that Steelman and Brunner were the tea party candidates, (there was some division).
54 posted on 2/8/2014 1:38:17 AM by ansel12
Why don’t you tell us on this thread what you are disagreeing with me about in regards to Akin?
Well, you are quite the serious and insightful poster, that is very deep stuff.
That’s an expected response for someone who is presenting the Tea Party as something they are not.
Who, or what, do you think makes up the tea party?
I’ve been “deemphasizing” the GOP the past several elections. If Matt Bevin does not win the Senate Primary, there’ll be nothin left to “deemphasize.”
It should be clear to those who advocate political opposition to the socialistic/ communist adhearants using hedonistic advocacy that are running todays democrat in name only political party have no moral core.
Central to any win is to remind voters of the fact that the Democrats actually voted to shed the anchor and the chain that governs our culture by removing any reference to God during their 2012 national convention. And when it was shoved back in because of “appearances” they “Booed” the decision and all the social conventions such as the 10 comandments that go with it.
They can’t even apply the proper terms like “socialist” let alone communist to them. But use guarded politically correct applications like “progressive or liberal” for fear of being “offensive”. Instead of “Godless Demo-Coms”.
Tea Party - atheistic secularist fiscal conservatism...cheap GOP_e except, God's okay but we're not championing anything God says to...that's too divisive. Pro-life is okay, but we're not kicking out any pro-choicers....that's too divisive. Pro-family is okay, but we're not kicking out any anti-family sodomy marriage supporters....that's too divisive. Constitution would be okay, but we're leaving the God part out of it...that's too divisive. Limited government is good.
Traditional Republican Party - pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-constitution, pro-limited government, period.
Yep, we should legalize murder and rape too, since they are moral social issues.
If you win with lies, in two years those people vote against you again and you lose.
We must explain and convince why Abortion is wrong, Why homosexuality is not just ok. If we can’t say why it is wrong then we have no business trying to make it wrong.
winning politics by staying quiet and refusing to stand for the things of God, is losing everything.
Akin said the truth and should have been supported. The dems can talk all day about abortion and then the Conservatives only respond with IM PRO LIFE. Then they shut up. Well what are the youth going to do? They see one side defending and attacking and the other side running from the fight.
If you can’t stand up for the unborn, you should sit down for the rest of your life.
Nobody is saying that we should win with lies. Why do you assume that?
But for crying out loud, don’t make social issues the central theme of a campaign. It’s a no win proposition: we lose, we get nothing. Period.
No he shouldn't.
He did more to kill babies and destroy marriage then abortion activists ever could.
He should be shunned like a leper in the biblical days.
You agree ansel12 ??
Might not be a bad idea for now - we keep concentrating on the symptoms instead of worrying about focusing on getting leadership that will adhere to the Constitution. If we get the latter, the former will take care of itself.
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