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1 posted on 01/16/2014 8:03:31 AM PST by KeyLargo
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Cook County leading concealed carry applications

31 minutes ago • Associated Press

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. | Illinois State Police say almost one in four of the roughly 23,000 people who’ve applied for concealed carry permits live in Cook County.

Figures released this week show the highly populated county leading the rankings with more than 5,300 applications that have been filed since Jan. 5.

Will and DuPage counties followed in second and third with almost 1,800 and 1,600 applications respectively.

But on a per capita basis, rural counties have the highest proportion of applicants.

Read at:

http://www.nwitimes.com/news/state-and-regional/illinois/cook-county-leading-concealed-carry-applications/article_6f107bd0-375d-561e-9525-618882b2299e.html


2 posted on 01/16/2014 8:10:33 AM PST by KeyLargo
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“WHAT TO DO ABOUT THOSE PESKY “NO-GUNS” SIGNS?”

Target practice


3 posted on 01/16/2014 8:11:00 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: KeyLargo

Those businesses should be avoided!


4 posted on 01/16/2014 8:11:31 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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A little “guerilla stickering” might be called for.

On the window under/over the no guns sign,
post a sticker that says “Notice to Criminals - Unarmed Victim Zone”.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 8:12:27 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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I am not familiar with the latest Illinois mess of laws to skirt the SCOTUS rulings. It sounds like recent state law has bestowed legal ramifications beyond trespassing upon persons otherwise legal at the whim of private business owners.

For those that do not know, in most states (that I am aware of), there is no legal authority or action beyond trespassing that can be taken against a legal citizen who does not recognize or conform to a posted “no guns” sign on an establishment that has not been designated specifically by law (ie. schools, government buildings, etc.).

In other words, a business can ask you to leave the premises if you are carrying (concealed or otherwise). If you refuse, they can call the police on you for trespassing. It seems Illinois is now radically different.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 8:13:24 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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In Ohio Buckeye Firearms (dot org) offers handy little cards to give to businesses that post "No Firearms Allowed" signs which read in part:

Your “no gun” sign prevents me from patronizing your business. So I, my family, and other gun owners will spend our money with your competitors. Look on the back to see why you should remove your sign.

Your “no gun” sign is bad for business. It does nothing to make you safer. It simply tells criminals you’re an easy target and drives away good customers with a concealed carry license.

Unlike most people, license holders have passed a criminal background check. Statistics show we are far more law-abiding than the general public. Our numbers are growing every day. We are ideal customers and will patronize your business if you let us. Remove your sign and I, my family, and many other gun owners will gladly return.

Buckeye Buckeye Firearms
Firearms Foundation
www.BuckeyeFirearms.org

Funny thing, but the number of businesses which have those signs up now is a fraction of the number back when the Concealed Carry law was originally passed.

8 posted on 01/16/2014 8:20:21 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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Just take your business elsewhere.

Consider a form letter to the manager of such places telling the manager that you have been a customer for a long time, but cannot, in good faith, do business with anyone who would put politics and political correctness over the safety of its customers by not allowing them to defend themselves.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 8:22:10 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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Here in Texas, a business establishment has to place a State Approved sign (30.06) on their point of entry for it to be valid. Check your State Law to verify the validity of the signage before you enter.

Besides, if you are truly carrying concealed, how would they know if you are armed or not? :-)


13 posted on 01/16/2014 8:27:28 AM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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19 posted on 01/16/2014 8:36:09 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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20 posted on 01/16/2014 8:38:35 AM PST by TheDon (Inside Every Liberal is a Totalitarian Screaming to Get Out.)
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Items 5 and 6 were certainly predictable.


33 posted on 01/16/2014 9:12:31 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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What about walking in and asking if you can check your firearm at the front desk while you patronize the business? (You don’t actually have to packing, but could do this just to see the reaction.)


42 posted on 01/16/2014 9:33:06 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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no-gun zone means civil liability.

have the lawyers lined up and ready to go.


43 posted on 01/16/2014 9:33:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: KeyLargo

The real solution to any “No Gun Allowed” sign, IMHO, has to wait until someone is injured or killed while in such an establishment.

Then the owner of that establishment needs to be sued in court for failing to protect people in his establishment.

Isn’t that the logical outcome of taking away a person’s God given right to self defense? If you are in a business that will not allow you to defend yourself and family, then, aren’t they responsible for your safety?

While at initial look this might be considered a frivolous law suit, IMHO, it is the logical outgrowth of various laws dealing with food safety, food temperatures, food preparation, and even those requiring bar tenders to stop serving drunks, etc.

Based on those types of laws mentioned above, if I say you can not defend yourself while in my dwelling/business didn’t I just make myself responsible for your safety?


51 posted on 01/16/2014 10:37:18 AM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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When Texas first passed CCW law these signs were all over...within a year they became scarcer and now they are few. Owners quickly found out who the real high paying customers were. I told several managers that as long as that sign was up I would not be back .The other thing is the lawyers of the franchises informed them that if there was a incident and people were killed the sign would be a liability in court!!
53 posted on 01/16/2014 10:57:49 AM PST by ontap
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There is no impedance of self-defense other than one’s self willing allowing it. Signs can also go up stating “No public talk of politics”, etc. Whether a bow or yawn is up to you.


58 posted on 01/18/2014 3:22:04 PM PST by TheBigJ
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just keep up the pressure everwhere until it is so common, rational, and socially accepted that they are the ones who appear ridiculous for posting their signs. We can not expect to change everyone’s position on this immediately. patience and perseverence will win this war in the end though.


59 posted on 01/25/2014 6:48:35 PM PST by RC one
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