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To: Windflier

Good luck at getting the constitutional amendment necessary for that, or the permission of the rest of the country expressed in federal legislation.

Secession by state action is not valid, as the separation would generate many controversies between the US federal government, and between the state which would have to be resolved per Article III at the Supreme Court.

Texas v. White


3 posted on 12/11/2013 6:16:53 PM PST by donmeaker
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To: donmeaker
Good luck at getting the constitutional amendment necessary for that, or the permission of the rest of the country expressed in federal legislation.

Oh, you mean the same way the 13 colonies got "permission" to secede from Great Britain?

There is no law that can be crafted by the hand of man, which supersedes the God given right of a people to sever the political bands that tie them to a union which no longer serves, protects, or upholds their pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness.

13 posted on 12/11/2013 6:27:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: donmeaker
Good luck at getting the constitutional amendment necessary for that, or the permission of the rest of the country expressed in federal legislation.

Don't need either.

Secession by state action is not valid, as the separation would generate many controversies .....

Tough noogies. This is what happens when you urinate on people and brown them off.

Texas v. White

Funny thing about Supreme Court decisions ..... they fall a long way short of rescripts from God, especially when they're cobbled up for obvious political purposes by a Court packed with political hacks, which Salmon P. Chase certainly was. He was put on the Court to protect Lincoln from the implications of a Court finding that Lincoln's executive actions in prosecuting the Civil War (very often taken in recess) were a) overreached and b) unconstitutional (like suspending habeas corpus on a pretense of authority, which was instead an invasion of a constitutional power of the Congress only).

Any Court holding can be set aside by the next Court to consider the matter. Thus Jefferson Davis and many other constitutional scholars, which of course excludes actors like the Impostor in the White House.

40 posted on 12/11/2013 6:46:57 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: donmeaker

I was born in Texas and in history class we learned from early on that Texas reserved the right to secede when it joined the union, the only state that had reserved that right and if it isn’t codified in law, tough cookie, that’s what we believe. Now, perhaps the US Supreme Court has issued an opinion that Texas can’t do that, well, I would say, if it gets bad enough Texas has to save itself, we don’t give a diddly squat what the supreme court did or does do and we don’t care what Eric puissant Holder says, either, or what Muslim Hussein says, either.

The one who will be at the front of the border daring any freaking Hussein lover to cross to harm us, will be Greg Abbott who goes to the Supreme Court against Holder every chance he gets and he wins. He has already threatened to arrest any federal agent crossing our border to take guns from us or crossing our border and going into any of our polling precincts. He spits at Eric Holder and his justice department.

If you are not from here you don’t understand the resolve of the people and that includes Democrats who grew up here. They are Texans first with their own guns they have had all their life, had their independence and if it was bad enough we had to secede, they would stand with us - I believe that.


51 posted on 12/11/2013 6:55:46 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: donmeaker
Why don't you be the first anti-secessionist in the history of Free Republic to actually read Texas v. White instead just stupidly parroting a psuedo-fact originally started by a forum creep who was exiled years ago.
68 posted on 12/11/2013 7:05:22 PM PST by Brass Lamp
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To: donmeaker

Ah, yeah, because they went the SCOTUS route last time they seceded...


83 posted on 12/11/2013 7:14:49 PM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: donmeaker

If I am not mistaken, Texas, being the only state that was once a nation, has in its constitution the right to return to nation status. Correct me if I am wrong.


87 posted on 12/11/2013 7:17:30 PM PST by NotTallTex
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To: donmeaker

“Secession by state action is not valid..”

From your comment, I guess the Colonies had permission from Great Britain before they headed to North America. Is that right?


125 posted on 12/11/2013 8:48:42 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: donmeaker
Yeah. "You can't leave because WE say so."

Thank God the Founders didn't listen to that.

131 posted on 12/11/2013 9:08:33 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: donmeaker
Secession by state action is not valid

Secession is not a legal matter. It is a fact on the ground.

BTW, there is an interesting factory in Amarillo. No, they don't make potatoes. But they do make gadgets with a funny peanut shape ...

145 posted on 12/11/2013 11:13:21 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: donmeaker

Figures a Richard Face like you would crime in with your sit to pee attitude.


160 posted on 12/12/2013 12:46:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: donmeaker

Practically speaking, there isn’t much the Feds can do to stop it, short of invading Texas.

Not going to happen.

Obama can’t stand up to anybody with a full set of balls. What makes anyone think they’d actually pull the trigger on invading a US state.

Especially one so well armed, and one that controls so much refining capacity.


211 posted on 12/12/2013 9:58:34 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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