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1 posted on 12/11/2013 3:27:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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If it’s reliable and the cost of owning and operating it make sense, sure. But the environmentalist crowd will eventually realize that water vapor is by far the most prevalent source of “greenhouse gas.” I don’t much care but they will, and they’re going to be the early adopters while the numbers don’t make economic sense. They may shoot it down before economies of scale can kick in.


2 posted on 12/11/2013 3:37:15 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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I have been waiting for hydrogen powered automobiles for forty years. Hydrogen will be the solution to the range anxiety that haunts battery powered vehicles. We will be able to eliminate carbon from the fuel cycle.


3 posted on 12/11/2013 3:50:07 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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I thought there was a “hot” problem....and lifting the hood alone was dangerous. Read that a long time ago???


4 posted on 12/11/2013 3:52:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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http://www.ehow.com/about_5533615_hydrogen-car-dangers.html


6 posted on 12/11/2013 3:54:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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This is a breakthrough, usually cars are made out of metal and plastic.


8 posted on 12/11/2013 4:02:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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“We think this is the only alternative-fuel technology right now that comes close to gasoline,”

Huh? What about liquified gas? Plentiful, easily managed, and your existing car can be converted to dual fuel use in a few hours for a few hundred bucks.

11 posted on 12/11/2013 4:09:39 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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My preferred ride and I hunt for smart cars and Prius:


13 posted on 12/11/2013 4:14:14 AM PST by maddog55
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Simple chemistry tells me that breaking bonds to free hydrogen from the molecules it is always bound up in costs at least as much energy as is retrieved by reforming the bonds with oxygen to make water. Even if the bond energy is identical (i.e. the hydrogen is extracted from water and later used to make water), there is always some energy loss to the system.

Where is the energy coming from to break the R-H bonds? (By chemical notation convention, “R” is any atom that functions in that position in the chemical reaction.)

How in the world can hydrogen fuel cell cars solve our energy problems?


17 posted on 12/11/2013 4:34:38 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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I wanna see methane cars.

You just light a match over the tail pipe and off they go!


19 posted on 12/11/2013 4:40:45 AM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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This is where the green technologies need to go. This offers a viable and economically sound free-market alternative to the very un-green electric and hybrid cars (the extra lead-acid batteries are terrifically polluting in production and disposal, not to mention the coal produced electricity required to charge the full electric models).

Once some of the engineering issues are resolved, the hydrogen engines could be used in the big power pickups like the above and at a much lower cost. Hydrogen and oxygen are easily separated with a small electric current. I am sure some smart engineers are going to come up with a solar/small windmill/rain spout/stationary bicycle powered separator-compressor that will fuel your vehicle in your home. — It could even be transportable to extreme remote locations where all you need is a dirty puddle of water and some sun or wind to fuel your vehicle. Can you spell “FREEDOM?”

Of course, the libs and big oil will hate this because it has the potential to fundamentally transform our economy and eliminates a big source of taxes. But this is the kind of free-market driven change I can live with.


22 posted on 12/11/2013 4:58:04 AM PST by Bill Russell
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Natural Gas Solution
23 posted on 12/11/2013 5:01:51 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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Hydrogen didn’t end well for the Hindenburg.

I hope this will work out better.


24 posted on 12/11/2013 6:08:05 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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And of course, all the big oil distributors are rushing to put in hydrogen fueling stations;
Power generating companies are building massive new facilities to meet the expected extra load to make the fuel;
Federal regulators are busy writing new regulations to cover over the road hydrogen powered cars, and;
Politicians are scrambling to implement new taxes on hydrogen fuels.

Meanwhile, the millions of people out of work and facing a huge rise in healthcare costs are busy pinching pennies to buy one of these new “affordable” vehicles.

25 posted on 12/11/2013 6:20:44 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Nope, can't afford it unless I win the lottery.
Let those liberals with their wealth be the early adopters.
27 posted on 12/11/2013 6:36:01 AM PST by American Constitutionalist
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“its only byproduct was water vapor”. This just happens to be the number 1 “Greenhouse Gas”.


31 posted on 12/11/2013 7:18:54 AM PST by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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So let me get this straight: We’re gonna burn coal to produce electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, and then burn the hydrogen to produce electricity to run cars. And this is going to allow us to be energy efficient? Oh, and at the same time we’re going to shut down as many coal-fired power generation plants as possible and run the whole country on windmills and solar cells. When the grid fails, welcome to the 19th century.


34 posted on 12/11/2013 10:33:14 AM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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I am very interested in developments concerning a rotary engine technology developed by Dr. Nikolay Shkolnik and son in concert with M.I.T. -”Want one!”

http://liquidpiston.com/


39 posted on 12/11/2013 3:42:31 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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