Did LBJ kill JFK?

Did LBJ have JFK killed? This critical question has endured ever since that fateful day of 50 years ago—Nov. 22, 1963. Former Nixon White House advisor Roger Stone makes this central argument in his new book, The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ. Stone’s interesting narrative isn’t another “conspiracy theory” book to add to the already voluminous number of fantastical JFK assassination claims. Roger tells Reason Magazine Editor, Nick Gillespie that, “The whole term ‘conspiracy theorists’ is a pejorative that the mainstream media uses to denigrate anyone who questions the government’s version on virtually anything… I’m not talking conspiracy, I’m talking facts.”

In an interview with Abby Martin who asks Stone, “What’s the strongest piece of evidence is that implicates LBJ in Kennedy’s murder?” Stone replies, “Probably the finger print of LBJ’s personal hit man named, Malcom “Mac” Wallace that is found on a cardboard box on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. It’s the only print other than the prints of Lee Harvey Oswald that I believe were planted there so that is probably your strongest piece of evidence.” Secondarily, Johnson’s mistress of 21 years, Madeleine Duncan Brown, who bore him an illegitimate child said that Lyndon Johnson told her on the eve of the assassination, “After tomorrow those godd–n Kennedys will never embarrass me again-that’s not a threat-that’s a promise.” And then lastly I think when the presidential motorcade pulled into Dealey Plaza in Dallas when Vice President Johnson’s car made the 120 degree turn on Elm St. into Dealey Plaza Lyndon Johnson, before the first shot was fired, was on the floor of his car; he hits the deck. There’s photographic evidence that proves this. So I would say that before, during and after the assassination Lyndon Johnson’s actions betray the fact that he is in fact the man yoking the conspiracy, or in this case the plot that includes the CIA, organized crime and Big Texas Oil,” Stone contends.

When asked about how his book is different from all of the other books claiming various JFK assassination conspiracy theories? Stone answers recounted his professional relationship over many years as a trusted advisor to President Richard Nixon who confessed to Stone “that the Warren Commission was the greatest hoax ever perpetrated.” Stone again: “Nixon never flatly said who was responsible for Kennedy’s death, but he would say both he and Johnson wanted to be president; the only difference, Nixon said was he refused to kill for the job.”

Stone admits to additional firsthand confirmations that indeed LBJ killed JFK from such colorful characters as: Amb. John Davis Lodge, who was the brother of Henry Cabot Lodge, JFK’s Ambassador to Vietnam, Attorney General John Mitchell, Tony Salerno head of the Genovese crime family in New York, New Orleans mob boss Carlos Marcello all plotted together with the CIA and LBJ to assassinate JFK.

Stone in his book on LBJ chronicles voluminous amounts of damning evidence that points to LBJ as behind the JFK assassination including Dallas being LBJ’s territory, the Dallas Police Department and the Dallas media under his control, LBJ’s close friend (D.H. Byrd) owned the book Texas book depository building, LBJ’s personal assassin on many other hits (Malcolm Wallace) was seen that day on the sixth floor of the book depository building while 75-90 seconds after the assassination Oswald was seen by several eyewitnesses including two secretaries, the building superintendent and a Dallas police officer who questioned him personally as being not on the sixth floor, but sitting alone on the second floor cafeteria drinking a coke apparently oblivious to that JFK’s assassination had just occurred less than 2 minutes ago.

Stone further argues that the insistence of Texas Governor John Connally that LBJ’s cronies dictated the route of the presidential motorcade instead of JFK’s advance team. This conflict caused a huge argument between JFK and LBJ as witnessed by Jackie Kennedy because JFK insisted on having Gov. John Connally, a loyal LBJ crony, to ride in his limousine – while LBJ wanted his political foe Senator Ralph Yarborough to ride with JFK (thereby killing two birds with one stone).

The trap was completely set when the presidential motorcade route was published in all the Dallas newspapers. As history dictated, JFK convinced LBJ to allow John Connally to ride in his limo whereby Connally was shot along with JFK, although he survived. Yarborough, riding with a frustrated LBJ, was never harmed.

There is no physical evidence of Oswald being on the sixth floor of the Texas book depository building that day. The palm print found on the murder weapon was taken from Oswald and planted on the rifle by the FBI while Oswald body lay in the morgue after he was killed by Jack Ruby. The Dallas coroner recalled after the FBI left finding black fingerprint ink on the hands Oswald’s corpse which obviously wasn’t there before the FBI arrived.

“Immediately after the assassination of JFK. LBJ spread the knowingly false story that the Russian government had killed Kennedy. He told Earl Warren the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court who was reluctant to chair the Warren Commission,” according to Stone. “He was only persuaded because Johnson convinced him that the Russians had killed Kennedy and if the truth got out then it would precipitate World War III. This was a lie that Johnson told over and over. There’s no truth to it. We now know that when Kennedy was killed Soviet Premiere Nikita Khrushchev wept. Also, Fidel Castro who was with an American when he got the news, kept repeating ‘Oh-No!’ and ‘This is very bad news.’ “I do not think that the Russian state was in anyway involved in any way in the assassination. I think Johnson lied about this,” says Stone.

Finally Stone argues “Landslide Lyndon” ascension in politics where his infamous 1948 election launching his career as a Senator was only achieved through naked fraud whereby LBJ won by only 87 votes—all in alphabetical order, in the same handwriting and they all signed in the same ink (“Box 13”). Through a magnificent presentation of original sources Stone ties LBJ to eight [8] murders prior to the JFK assassination not including his own sister whom Stone’s contends “he may have killed who is buried without an autopsy.” LBJ’s sister, Josefa Johnson, was murdered Christmas Day 1961 after leaving a party hosted by LBJ. She was probably killed because revealed secrets to her lovers golf pro John Kisner and Mac Wallace (LBJ’s favorite assassin who). Wallace claimed heat of passion defense because Kisner was sleeping with Wallace’s wife and with LBJ’s defense lawyer (John Cofer) representing him, got a 5 year suspended sentence for killing Kisner on Oct. 22, 1961.

“I think he’s an amoral psychopath,” says Roger Stone of LBJ. “I think he’s crude, evil, vicious, vindictive, [a] drunk.” I think that Lyndon Johnson had unique motive, means and opportunity to kill John Kennedy and I think that he participated in a plot to do so.”

“How did this happen?” “Who is responsible?” and the most important question: “Who had the most to gain?” Doubtlessly the answer to all three questions points directly to Vice President Lyndon Johnson who had motive, means and opportunity to kill JFK:

LBJ had motive (personal, political, economic). He had political motive because of LBJ’s legendary hatred of JFK, RFK and the Kennedy family which extended back to 1937 when LBJ was a freshman Texas congressman and fanatical acolyte of FDR and his New Deal revolution. JFK and RFK didn’t want LBJ on the first ticket (they wanted Missouri Sen. Stuart Symington) and was working to get LBJ kicked off the 1964 ticket. LBJ knew this and so he had to act fast; LBJ had means (LBJ used Texas Gov. John Connally to entice JFK to their Texas territory along with his strong connections with the Dallas Police, Dallas news media, and Big Texas Oil); LBJ had opportunity (LBJ controlled all aspects of the JFK assassination, before during and afterwards) the CIA hated Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis, FBI head, J. Edgar Hoover also hated the Kennedys and used his vast forces to cover up the JFK murder.

With JFK out of the way LBJ would become president of the United States… a coveted position that those who knew LBJ realized he always desired so much that he would kill to obtain the presidency by any means necessary.

Was LBJ thinking of the JFK assassination when he made this cryptic admission?—”It is the melancholy law of human societies to be compelled sometimes to choose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil,” or his interview with Walter Cronkite when LBJ says, “Oswald,” and he pauses, realizing that he did not want to speak that name publicly to Cronkite and closes his eyes in despair, before continuing to the ultimate incriminating statement, “others that could have been involved.”

Apparently, not even LBJ believes the findings of his servile, phony, handpicked Warren Commission that Oswald acted alone.” Again, it was impossible for Oswald to kill the president when at the time of the shots were fired (12:30 pm) Oswald was on the second (not the sixth) floor cafeteria of the Texas book depository, drinking a coke alone and totally oblivious to the fact JFK had just been assassinated two minutes before. LBJ, the FBI, the CIA and the Warren Commission knew this which is why they all had to lie and claim that Oswald was the lone assassin at all costs lest on this day, 50 years later, the light of truth be shone on the real murder of John F. Kennedy… none other than Lyndon Baines Johnson!

yeah right. blah blah blah….repetition over the years does not improve any of the arguments.

50n years later this is a relevant as O’s birth certificate. WHile interesting it changes nothing

Not vouching for the theory but it goes more like this because Connally was more in jump-seat, actually a different seating arrangement. This is part of the problem with studying the assassination, too much information out there and in the end for what?? 2nd graphic from Posner's book.

Now that I have read this story more closely, this is why what Stone is saying is important even if some people assert we were told this before in other books.

http://theconservativebeacon.com/lbj-kill-jfk

FINGERPRINT, it is being asserted that an “alleged” heavy of LBJ’s, Malcolm Wallace had a fingerprint of his found at the TSBD, Texas Schoolbook Depository. If this is so, I’ve got to say it would seem to be “real” evidence.

Now that I have read this story more closely, this is why what Stone is saying is important even if some people assert we were told this before in other books.

http://theconservativebeacon.com/lbj-kill-jfk

Thanks. That is three thread this is being discussed on. Linking them helps
keep cross tabs on info. This has apparently become a topic of interest because
of the TV shows and the 50th anniversary of the event. One show that I saw was
featuring all the various conspiracy theories.

And speaking for myself, a lot of times, I will comment while not having read the whole article.

It’s mindblowing that according to Roger Stone, writer of this book that Richard Nixon said he knew who Jack Ruby was “instantly”, there’s been so much JFK stuff, hard to keep up but that is amazing:

“Richard Nixon told me in 1982 that he immediately knew who Jack Ruby was when he saw him shoot Oswald,” Stone told The Daily Caller in an extensive interview.

Among other revelations, Stone told TheDC that Nixon hired Jack Ruby as a House committee informant at Johnson’s request years prior to the Kennedy assassination, which occurred 50 years ago today.”

Roger Stone for those who don’t know going off the top here, worked with Richard Nixon and Stone worked for the Libertarian campaign last year. Perhaps Stone is an eccentric personality in his own right.

So tread slowly with this guy.

I think it’s important to remember that “eccentric” personalities can belong to either honest or dishonest individuals.

The question is not whether Stone is eccentric or mainstream in temperament.

The question is whether he tells the truth.

From the Google translation of this page: http://www.rtl.fr/actualites/info/international/article/kennedy-le-reve-a-ete-assassine-avec-l-homme-dit-giscard-7767111282

Valéry Giscard d’Estaing

“Gerald Ford (President of the United States from 1974 to 1977, ed) was part of the Warren Commission, takes Valéry Giscard d’Estaing. I did a drive with him once in the United States, he was President . President and I was myself I told him: ‘I ask you an indiscreet question: you were in the Warren Commission, what conclusions did you come?’ He told me: ‘This is not satisfactory, we have reached an initial conclusion:... It was not an isolated crime, it was something organized We were sure it was organized but we have not been able to discover by whom “.

I was at TSN and Pleiku in 68-69. I loved the country and the people. I have been back a number of times and have a vacation home in a small highway town North of Cam Ranh. I know a Navy fellow (also 68-69) who has been in Nha Trang since ‘05. He is retired now and living on his SS like we all wish we could live on SS.

How can anyone say there was only one bullet? From the Zapruder film, you can plainly see at least two times Kennedy was shot, once in the throat, when Jackie leaned over to him, and then the one to his head when Jackie went to the back of the limo for whatever reason, either from fright or trying to get the secret service agent’s attention. I haven’t read his book or saw the TV movie, but I think in O’Reilly’s version of events, there was only one bullet.

LBJ had means (LBJ used Texas Gov. John Connally to entice JFK to their Texas territory along with his strong connections with the Dallas Police, Dallas news media, and Big Texas Oil)

Presumably Senator LBJ packed a lot of clout. We don't know if he still had it after three years as Vice President.

The story in 1963 was that Kennedy went to Dallas to heal the rift between Governor Connally's and Senator Yarborough's factions of the party. A party split could have made Johnson less of a factor back home.

Maybe all the legends are true, but I wouldn't automatically assumed that Johnson could call upon the unquestioning support of powerful Texans or of the state as a whole.

Re: Jack Ruby

My husband and I were fond of watching “What’s My Line” in those days and were truly shocked at the murder of Dorothy Kilgallen, a WML panelist. Mystery solved on P.299 of Stone’s book. Apparently she was the only reporter granted a personal interview with Ruby and was working on a book which she told friends would “blow the JFK case sky-high.” All the notes for her book disappeared at her death.

IMO Stone has done a public service by putting all the pieces together.

Interesting how the truth eventually comes out little by little. Wish I could be around for the 100 year observance of the assassination.

Jackie went to the back of the limo to retrieve a piece of Kennedy’s brain.

I know it is not logical but in a situation like that illogical action often happens. She tried to pick it up and put it back into his head.

Coming up soon, another thread entitled with the rhetorical question, “Did Martians kill JFK?”
I surfed on and off a JFK documentary last night that discussed different conspiracies and the percentage of Americans who believed them.
IIRC, 7% thought his assassination was to cover up proof of aliens on earth. Oy.

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