Posted on 11/22/2013 6:28:07 PM PST by PJ-Comix
This DUFU edition is sure to cause you to slap your foreheads in amazement at the incredible gullibility of the KOmmies in their desperation to look for some, ANY, success in the ObamaCare flop. Yes, it is well known that the ObamaCare website is INSECURE so what do the KOmmies do? They unthinkingly provide their personal information to that site. They might as well send an email with that information to hackers and Nigerian email scammers. So will the first KOmmie to suffer from identity theft apply to the government for a subsidy due to their identity being stolen? In addition to their utter stupidity in freely entering their personal info to an INSECURE website, the KOmmies are so desperate in their search for ObamaCare success that they hype completely meaningless numbers. Hey, KOmmies, there is only ONE statistic that means anything and that is how many PAID for an insurance policy. Everything else is still in looky loo territory. Oh, and btw, you can't pay even if you wanted to because the ObamaCare website still has no payment system set up. You can see the KOmmie descent into complete laughable gullibility at this THREAD, "Obamacare enrollments double in last three weeks." So let us watch the KOmmies provide comedy in the form of ObamaCare hype in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, recommending LIFELOCK (Promo Code: RUSH) to all those DUmb enough to give their personal info to hackers via healthcare.gov, is in the [barackets]:
Obamacare enrollments double in last three weeks
[Big deal. In that same time frame the total number of "enrollments" in Delaware quadrupled from one to four.]
Obamacare could hit some impressive numbers for January 1 enrollments. The administration just announced that it will extend the deadline for new enrollments from December 15 to December 23. That's for policies to be effective as of January 1, though enrollment will be open through March. That, coupled with an enrollment surge in the first two weeks of November means that enrollments at the beginning of the year could be downright respectable.
[An enrollment surge that doubled from ZERO to ZERO total PAID enrollments.]
Enrollments have doubled since the end of October, from 106,000 to more than 200,000. That figure comes from the 14 states that have set up their own exchanges, and will be higher when the federal numbers are added in. Some of those states have experienced their own technological glitches (Oregon is only able to take paper applications at the moment) but the quickened pace of enrollment shows that demand is stronger than frustration over technology.
[All that means is the number of people who will have their IDs stolen by hackers has doubled. The number of PAID enrollments remains at ZERO.]
The California surge is particularly noteworthy, accounting for about a third of the enrollments nationally, and also way ahead of what the state expected to see so early in the process. Likewise, Washington state is seeing huge increases, from 55,000 enrolled at the end of October to 98,000 in the first two weeks of November. Connecticut reports that 14 percent of its projected enrollments are complete. This leads all of the states to expect a huge number of enrollments post-Thanksgiving, as people make their decisions and sign up before the new December 23 deadline for January 1 coverage.
[I checked on the PAID enrollments for CA: ZERO. And I imagine CT is about the same.]
So now the thing Democrats need to start focusing on is shaping a "fix it" message, pointing out that Republicans are still trying to take it away.
[The hackers are all Republicans? The only thing they will take away are the IDs of the gullible. And now on to the other gullible KOmmies...]
They're including Medicaid because it counts as new coverage.
[Pretty much all the stats reflect people signing on to FREE Medicaid. PAID enrollments remain at ZERO.]
I was making the same mistake--yes, it counts overall, but the "7 million" target is for paid-for, private exchange enrollments. That's why I list both of them.
[And that "7 million" remains at "ZERO."]
I'm one of the enrollees. But I'm still waiting for an email from the insurance company I selected. So I'm in some sort of limbo. Do we know how many enrollees have selected an insurance plan but like me are waiting to complete the process?
[Don't worry. You will soon be receiving a confirmation email from Nigeria asking for your payment and bank account information.]
How long ago did you make the selection?
[24 Business Hours ago and I'm still waiting.]
3 weeks ago
[More than enough time for all your personal info to be downloaded by a low level hacker.]
If you enrolled online and finished ...in that instant, all your information is passed to the insurer in a way that it creates an instant policy. At that point, Healthcare.gov is completely out of the picture. The insurance definitely knows whether or not you are signed up. There is no backlog of stacked up applications. Call the insurance company and confirm that they have your application.
[The insurance company is sure NOT to have it but at least a thousand hackers are right now having a field day with all your personal information.]
I did call them. They had not received my application (gave them all the numbers, App and Case) they told me they had received a "batch" of applications they had not gone through yet. They are supposed to call me back when they figure it out.
[Perhaps a sympathetic hacker can forward all your personal information to the insurance company.]
I've heard from them, pretty quick after signing up. But it's not done until I've paid the first premium, which isn't an option yet. I was trying to arrange a payment method, but they were not willing to set it up yet. They said they'll do a mailout the end of this month, which will include the first bill, at which time I can do the payment arrangements.
[Payment isn't an option yet because the ObamaCare website has NOT even set up a payment system. BTW, don't be too surprised if the payment address on your bill is in Nigeria.]
It aint perfect, but this thing is going to work.
[It would be perfect if not for the fact that all your info will be hacked plus no payment system has even been set up yet.]
They did a mocking skit at the Country Music Awards earlier this month, complete with "ObamaCare by Morning" to the tune of "Amarillo by Morning" (George Strait's hit.) It was particularly aggravating, as it was more inflammatory than awards show shtick normally ventures into, and a lot of peoples' health and well-being rest in the balance.
[A lot more truthful than Obama. At least the skit showed how hard it is to access the website. Kathleen Sebelius tried it a few days ago in Miami but, as usual, the ObamaCare website was DOWN.]
Geometric progression baby.
[Freudenschade, baby.]
I'm so frustrated. I was on the phone with them for an hour today. I typed one number wrong in my husband's social security number, and it will not let me fix it. This has been going on since Thursday of last week. Yes, I tried starting over with a second account. It won't let me log into the the account. I know the password, but it says it is wrong. When I request the email to reset the password, I get the email, click the link, only to get a message that they could not process my request.
[The only thing worse than that would be if you had given them the CORRECT social security number.]
Weren't signups projected at 500K per month? If so, how can these numbers, in any shape or form, represent good news?
[Shhhh!!! Don't spoil the KOmmie party mood!]
I sure would feel better about December 23 if I could log in to healthcare.gov or if it would send me the e-mails it says it's going to send.
[You'll feel even worse if you could log in to healthcare.gov because it means your ID will probably be stolen.]
o If you created the account in october. Its highly recommended you create another account after clearing your cookies and your cache.
[And after hackers clear out your bank account.]
One reason for low reported enrollments could be because they aren't counted until the first payment is made.
[A very dim light clicks on in a tiny KOmmie mind.]
I finally got through and selected a plan a few days ago. I was online with a live chat operator at the time, and he volunteered that I didn't have to pay until Dec. 15- coverage wouldn't start until Jan. 1 anyway. I told him, only half joking, that I wanted to improve my state's enrollment figures. Also, my current policy will be canceled 12/31, and I'll feel safer with a new one in hand. He replied that I should "do what I think is best." I thought that was a little odd……and went ahead and paid the first month's premium.
[I would think that a little odd since the ObamaCare website has NO payment system. Did you think it a little odd that the "operator" asked you to PayPal the payment directly to him?]
This is almost become sad. This whole thread is people whooping it up over a really horrible number being doubled, to a less shitty number.
[Even sadder when you consider that the KOmmies are really whooping it up to ZERO paid enrollments being doubled to ZERO paid enrollments. Oh, except for the previous guy who obviously got scammed by an unvetted live chat Operator. Oh, he was an Operator all right.]
Don't worry KOmmie, the government will accept your payments anyway. Just send them a check or your credit card info.
Actually on Facebook I posted a photo of JFK visiting Miami on Nov. 18, 1963. And in the crowd is a person right near JFK who looks like my father. I do know he was there when JFK visited.
Same here PJ.
I thought the first PING didn’t hit everybody so repeated.
ok.
:: Obumbo care does not apply to me, but I am curious ::
I’m in the same boat but am considering invoking my 4th and 5th amendment rights when I file my taxes and I am asked to answer the “insurance” question (e.g., leaving it blank)
Anyone around here know if that is “an option” in this situation?
Dude...it’s Obama. You mispelled “toke”.
:: That’s so sad. It reminds me of the kid who writes to Santa and asks him to stop daddy from drinking. ::
Closer to along the lines of asking Santa to make daddy stop beating mommy.
;’)
Go figure. You take people's insurance away and make it a legal mandate to buy new (more expensive and less beneficial) insurance, and some of them have the nerve to actually do so. That isn't "demand", that a captive audience.
Doubleplusungood!
So if you (as everyone should) set up your withholding so that you do not have a refund coming, you can just pay the balance due of your income tax without the Obamacare portion.
And you KNOW that some rapscallions will be doing that just for the fun of it, or just to f--k over a system set to crash if more than six computers try to log-on to those 'Commodore 64' servers & 'IBM Compatible' software we spent $20 Gazillion Dollars on.
Not that I would do that mind you. That would just be 'wrong' ;-).
am considering invoking my 4th and 5th amendment rights when I file my taxes and I am asked to answer the “insurance” question (e.g., leaving it blank)I don't know how the 4th would work its way in (unreasonable search & seizure and warrants)? But on the 5th you're pretty much screwed - IRS Tax Courts are basically above the Law so they can 'deprive you' of almost anything they want. And self-incrimination won't fly either.
But what *may work* and is almost never used in Fed Courts for some odd reason -- so a Judge might let it proceed -- is the 9th Amendment which reads:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.In short, the Bill of Rights doesn't encompass the only Rights we have. So just because a Right isn't listed, noted, and or delineated, doesn't mean; We Don't Have It.
And from there I'm sure some sharp lawyer could come up with a score of arguments of why and how its your Right not to sign that form. And with a Jury of your Peers, I'm pretty confident that the way its going now with ObamaDeathCare, they'd find in your favor
4/5 invocation would be post-filing, not a pre-emptive assertion. I don’t know how mcuh court work has been done using 4 and/or 5 as a defense to charges vis-a-vis a pre-emptive assertion (defiant position versus a defensive position).
I ain’t no lawyer and consider the Constitution to be written so that any intelligent citizen can understand it.
On second thoght, maybe that’s the problem?
Thought you might get a kick out of liberals raising liberals.....
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