Posted on 09/04/2013 8:32:17 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
GunsNFreedom.com is reporting an astonishing statement made by Chicago police superintendent Garry McCarthy.
McCarthy is angry that Illinois has joined the other 49 states in the union that have authorized some level of concealed carry. In an recorded interview McCarthy issues a not so thinly-veiled threat that under his leadership, Chicago Police will shoot concealed carriers:
You put more guns on the street expect more shootings, McCarthy said. I dont care if theyre licensed legal firearms, people who are not highly trained putting guns in their hands is a recipe for disaster. So Ill train our officers that there is a concealed carry law, but when somebody turns with a firearm in their hand the officer does not have an obligation to wait to get shot to return fire and were going to have tragedies as a result of that. Im telling you right up front.
McCarthy doesn’t just seem to think it may happen; he almost seems to look look forward to it with some sort of vindictive wrath. He asserts that only his police are responsible enough to carry handguns, an assertion that flies in the face of the fact that at least one study shows that police officers are five times more likely to shoot the wrong person than concealed carriers.
A key fact that McCarthy glosses over in claiming that police are so much better trained than the average concealed carrier, is that concealed carriers are not training to be police officers.
Concealed carriers do not learn radio procedures and codes, arrest procedures, the various laws and ordinances, or various other aspects of police work that take up most of the time McCarthy uses to assert his officers are somehow superior when it comes to firearms use.
The sad, simple fact of the matter is that CPD officers rarely train with their firearms. Most fire their weapons only during during the mandatory annual qualification, which lasts just one hour. There are Girl Scout troops with more frequent range time than the Chicago PD.
In most cities, a police superintendent threatening his city’s most law-abiding citizens with bloodshed would result in a groundswell of calls for his ouster or resignation. That outcome is unlikely in Chicago. Citizens are too busy going to funerals of the more than 250 citizens murdered so far this year under McCarthy’s watch in his “gun free” city.
I write a letter to the university president and copied the police chief's office, pointing out that Texas law expressly prohibited what he suggested, and that by making such a proclamation, they had opened themselves to a lawsuit if one of their officers ever shot someone.
Think about it: he is simply claiming that someone holding a gun will be shot. Now, anyone that is shot can ask: was I really a threat? Or did you just think you saw a gun and opened fire? If I had a gun, did I threaten you or anyone else, or did you just presume that I was doing so?
I got a half-hearted apology from the university president, but they didn't make a public retraction.
I would think the Chicago police chief would have enough problems without threatening to shoot law-abiding gun owners on sight. How about shooting the criminals, idiot?
So, he WANTS a lot of dead cops?
That doesn’t surprise me. I’ve had to use a firearm for self-defense twice in my life and only fired a shot in one of those cases. Brandishing usually gets the job done, but cops never brandish. They pull and fire, even LTL arms like tasers.
“As lame as many things are in Illinois, the roads are pretty darn good...”
Nope. Still not a good enough reason to risk the lives of my family by visiting a state that makes Beirut look safe by comparison.
Doesn’t this also mean that if they run across an undercover policeman with his firearm unholstered they’ll be expected to shoot them on sight without giving them an opportunity to identify themselves?
Hey McCarthy it doesn’t take much if a brain to know how to load a gun, aim, and pull a trigger. Stop putting cops on pedestals in that regard. I say that from the standpoint of being a former LEO. Guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens is a deterrent and keeps their workload down. Occassionally you have a nutcase that misuses them but, by and far, they are usually liberal nutjobs.
I understand the anger at the demonstrably incorrect assumption that more licensed carriers mean more shootings.
But the fact is that if you turn towards a cop with a gun in your hand, you are going to get shot, and the cop will not be charged. I imagine that's just as true in Texas as it is in Chicago.
However, I both slightly agree and almost totally disagree with him. I have a cpl. I have familiarized myself with the laws of my state regarding the legal use of deadly force and the laws associated with concealed carry and firearms use. I have also studied and lived a lot of safety training. I belong to a gun range and practice.
In my opinion, there are a lot of people out there who have absolutely no concept of the legal use of deadly force. The Martin/Zimmerman story and the statements made about it by talking heads are a good example of the general ignorance. If such a person who doesn't understand the legal use of deadly force is allowed concealed carry in public, then there could be a problem. However, it is probably a very minor problem that the existing laws can deal with and once better understood by the public, will correct itself.
Having said that, the right to keep and bear arms is a right that is a God given right confirmed in our Constitution.
Even if people don't know all the ins and outs on the use of deadly force, they still have a right to protect themselves, even if it entails potentially ending up going to jail for improper use of deadly force.
There are far too many stories of people shooting at fleeing burglars (who have run out of the house and thrown down any weapons), who do not represent any immediate danger to the shooter.
For a concealed carry license, I have no problems with a state either handing out a pamphlet on the firearms laws of the state, or requiring a simple multiple answer test on the firearms laws of the state. I would prefer the former.
However, for those that want a firearm in their home, office, the woods, or their property I think that open carry with no license and no testing, should a mandatory recognition of our second amendment rights.
Just my opinion, along with the Chicago cop being a political jerk and publicity hound.
I’m a risk taker. Last month I visited the apartment building in Cleveland where my parents lived when I was born, and the church they attended.
One of the toughest parts of town.
Call it the “urban adventure tour” LOL.
Cop Shoots Self in Foot - Youtube
P.S. What is the FR code to embed a video? Anyone?
This incompetent delusional "chief" needs to be replaced immediately if not sooner. He is not qualified to lead, making statements like that.
In that one paragraph he is flat out saying that his cops are not trained any better than "people who are not highly trained."
All of us with an IQ of over 50 and some knowledge of the topic know that cops must never wait until they are "shot" to fire back. BUT THEY BETTER HAVE A GUN AIMED AT THEM BEFORE SHOOTING SOMEONE.
Even "not highly trained" licensed to carry owners know that! And if they forget, that is the risk they have assumed, if they're stupid.
But certainly, cops should know better, and if not, should be getting a different job that they are better qualified for, including the "chief!".
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This guys in the running now for a cabinet post.
highly trained huh? Like the highly trained officers that shot up two pickup trucks during the Dorner manhunt?
Isn't it hard to conceal a carrier? They usually have 5,000+ sailors on board.
And shooting a carrier is damaging Federal property. Odinga will be awful upset...
I know plenty of civilians that can out shoot the useless donut sucking shitcago cops.
looks like we’re all still waiting.............
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