Posted on 06/26/2013 10:34:30 AM PDT by EXCH54FE
In a victory for sexual perverts in States where it is legal for deviants to be married, The Supreme Court of the United States has spit in the face of Almighty God and every true Christian in this country, and ignored thousands of years of human history in which homosexual ACTS have been tolerated by some, but never have they allowed to marry on a de facto or de jure basis, by striking down the provisions of DOMA that deny sexual deviants the same Federal benefits of marriage.
The Court reasoned that it is unconstitutional to deny marriage benefits to some married couples but allow them for others. On a strictly legal platform, this is not surprising, and frankly was expected. In effect, they are leaving it to the States to decide. States that do not recognize pervert marriages still are not required to do so, and do not have to provide State benefits to same-sex couples, nor recognize same sex marriages of couples who move to their States married in one that permits it, but are merely saying that the Federal government may not give to one group what it does not give to another.
The error in this reasoning is that homosexuals are not a federally recognized protected class, yet the majority court seems to have ignored this axiom. The really disturbing part of this ruling on Doma is that it opens the door for States to permit incestuous, polygamous, and incestuous polygamous marriages; equal rights for all means ALL, right? It appears that the Court did not think this through to its logical conclusion.
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Even for Texas, secession will lead ultimately to economic if not social and military defeat. Secession indicates that Texans don’t care at all about restoring the Constitution or the Republic (not the Republic of Texas) but just about “quickly” their current lifestyle. Yes, restoring the Constitution and Republic may require sacrifices.
Secede and all you are left with is a probably hostile set of states to your north, east and west and a very hostile nation to the south with the intent to “reclaim” you.
The real cause is to remove the assholes who make those states blue and don’t for a minute believe that the majority of any of those states is blue. Redistricting/Gerrymandering has built enclaves that can elect democrats by way of a concentrated minority while the rest of the state is overall red.
Loyalists were a problem in the first AmRev but they were not solid enough anywhere to overcome the revolutionists.
Yeah, that’s exactly what the arrogant southern democrats believed in 1860. How did that work out? Never underestimate the enemy and be aware that there are plenty of them in every state; more than enough to make a difference. In Texas you also have a lot of illegals who will come at you from the south.
There are a lot of misguided Freepers that still think we can all live under one roof with perverted commies with freedom loving individualist Christians. All that leads to is lighter chains. This strife is rapidly coming to a head. The nation is riven and will never mend. I am sick of the federal boot on my neck.
Bring it.
Unless of course it is preferential treatment for school admission.
“Even for Texas, secession will lead ultimately to economic if not social and military defeat.”
Then so be it. There are worse things than defeat and subjugation and enslavement. Texas has survived all that. Texas survived reconstruction and the subjugation of her people.
Maybe Texas loses. Maybe Texas wins. But, if we stand up for ourselves. Losing doesn’t mean destruction. But we must stand up and fight for what we believe. If we do not stand up and fight for this - who will?
“Secession indicates that Texans don’t care at all about restoring the Constitution”
Nonsense. Listen up Poindexter. Secession means that Texans are willing to fight and die for the constitution - to fight and die to protect traditional marriage, and the requirement that marriage be one man and one woman.
Now, either you’re on board or you’re not on board. But if Texas stands, she will not stand alone. I am certain of this. There are a great many Americans in this country who are tired. Who are exhausted from fighting and fighting and fighting. But they will rally behind a state that comes in and says, the line must be drawn here.
And so it goes.
Are you with us sir?
“Secede and all you are left with is a probably hostile set of states to your north, east and west and a very hostile nation to the south with the intent to “reclaim” you.”
They can come and take it.
“don’t for a minute believe that the majority of any of those states is blue.”
I disagree. I think the majority of these asshole states are assholes.
“Loyalists were a problem in the first AmRev but they were not solid enough anywhere to overcome the revolutionists.”
My family were Loyalists. We fought for Queen and Country and continued to fight for Queen and country long after the Damn Yankees stripped them of land and property. They did not rebel against the legitimate government of King and country and for their transgressions were stripped of everything they had.
So you can pardon me, Mr. Yankee, If I fail to join in your ‘revolution’. You can have it, sir.
“Speak for yourself. Some people are training.”
Ooookay. If you say so.
The decision FORCES gay “marriage” upon America! It’s gonna be a Homo Hoedown in San Francisco tonight!
“As an ordained U.U. Reverend, I suggest not fireworks, but sackcloth and ashes for this Fourth of July!”
Regarding this post, I haven’t yet read any Court opinions, only the article referenced in the OP. But regarding both issues, I woudn’t be surprised if the Court didn’t directly reference any of the following constitutonal statutes mentioned below, possibly an effort to make sure that low information voters remain low information voters with respect to its decisions.
First, for years I had predicted that the Supreme Court would find DOMA unconstitutional and I reluctantly side with the justices who defended the Constitution in making that decision.
As I have mentioned in related threads, the Founding States made the 10th Amendment to clarify that the Constitution’s silence about things like marriage automatically makes marriange a 10th Amendment protected state power issue. (DOMA wasn’t protected by 10A; Prop. 8 is protected by 10A) So Congress was politicking when it made a law (DOMA) which included the word marriage.
Note that DOMA essentially helped incumbent lawmakers to win votes from Christians for another term in office, Christians who likely don’t understand the Founding States division of federal and state govvernment powers.
Next, DOMA was also arguably a religious test for being a federal employee, such tests prohibited by Clause 3 of Article VI.
Regarding Prop. 8, note the line from the article “the case was dismissed for being improperly before the Court.” Consider that the Court volunteered what is arguably a similar technical excuse not to hear Terri Schiavo’s case, “division of powers,” when her family and supporters asked for help from the Court to stop the plug from being pulled.
So with Prop. 8 as well as Terri, although the effective outcomes of the Court’s decisions concerning these cases are constitutional under 10A, activists justices arguably continue to weaken 10A by not explicitly mentioning 10A, offering technical excuses instead, possibly an effort to make sure that low information voters in all states remained constitutionally ignorant as I had indicated before.
The bottom line about pagan activist justices is the following imo. If Christians would study the relatively few pages of the Constitution like they study the Holy Bible, then they’d be able to use the Constitution to be “fire preventers” with respect to preventing attacks on constitutional freedoms by unconstitutonally big federal government, as opposed to now being “fire fighters,” continually fighting with the feds in the courts as a consequence of not knowing division of federal and state powers.
Come to the range with me sometime. We’ll do some move and shoot drills.
The moment and actions that resulted in the Declaration occurred years before the signing of the document but they as a whole led to the document that said enough. There were shots fired and blood shed in April of 1775 and one could also conclude that the first shot was fired in 1772 when the British ship Gaspee was fired on and a British captain was nearly killed. This action was declared at the time to be treason and an act of war.
The reasons for declaring independence were many and the signing was preceded by a lot of incidents over many years, like today.
Well said.
The meaning was that in states that might secede, they are carrying along large numbers of “loyalists”. In a state standing alone or in small numbers as a group would have a hard enough time neutralizing the internal enemies they bring with them by seceding. I would rather repeat the revolution, reestablish the Consitution and give our modern loyalists the opportunity to leave with whatever they can carry or be put out by force.
Ok, playing on a gun range isnt....Jesus why even bother? I guess engaging in a fantasy is far better than just sitting around.
The problem is that these guys think 1776 led to some mass uprising that was unanimous in its support.
They are waiting for that fantasy setup now so they know its “safe” to play too.
Heck, 1861 had more popular support than 1776.
Typical modern thinking that everything has to move at light speed as does communication. In the 1700s there was no internet but there was massive pamphleteering, writing of letters and exchange of “angry words”. It takes time to build a momentum and over the last few years with increasing oppression there are more and more people willing to speak out. With that I’ve seen many more who are now considering the idea of reestablishing the government our forefathers gave us; to include actions unthinkable a few years back.
Any semblance of hope in the “ruling class” doing anything is almost gone and that is one of the first steps in building a movement to take back our individual rights and freedoms. The ruling class in the GOP can’t conceive that if there ever were a revolution they would be held in the same contempt as the democrat party. Their mistake.
I don’t “play” on the gun range, and I don’t engage in fantasy. You bitched about people sitting around posting on a message board instead of something else. What is your earth shattering plan?
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