Alabama Democratic Party Submits Different Obama Birth Certificate In Ballot Challenge Appeal

McInnish-Goode-v-Chapman-Appeal-ADP-Amicus Brief ^

[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

In a unusual rare move, the Alabama Democratic Party has submitted a amicus brief in the McInnish Goode v Chapman Appeal case. The reason being is most likely because the Alabama Supreme Court has Chief Justice Roy Moore presiding over it. He supported Lt. Col. Terry Lakin during his court martial. Another worry for them is another justice named Tom Parker. He once opined in a prior McInnish case:

"McInnish has attached certain documentation to his mandamus petition, which, if presented to the appropriate forum as part of a proper evidentiary presentation, would raise serious questions about the authenticity of both the “short form” and the “long form” birth certificates of President Barack Hussein Obama that have been made public."

This has reasons for the Alabama Democratic Party to be alarmed. In the amicus brief, the Alabama Democratic Party attacked the merits of the appeal, calling the evidence submitted by McInnish “inadmissible and not worthy of belief” and stated:

"A county sheriff from Arizona is not an “official source” of anything in Alabama."

One thing that stands out in the amicus brief filed, specifically on page 33 is something new. It's a Barack Obama long form birth certificate that has a different backing, something not seen before. It's not the normal security paper backing that the Hawaii Dept. Of Health has been using. It is raising a lot of questions that even has Obama supporters baffled. Click on the link and scroll to page 33 of the brief to see the birth certificate.

[MHGinTN]

You’re wrong, but I doubt seriously that anything would cause you to vacate this erroneous belief. The Clintons answer to others who can destroy their lives with a phone call. Were you aware that clinton and obama were summoned to Feistein’s house the night before Super Tuesday? Oh, never mind. Fiction is more comfortable for some folks who just have to have their fantasies.

[noinfringers2]

I consider myself a politically very conservative person at the very least a dedicated Constitutionalist. I think the ‘birthers’ have had to plow a political field that is weed infested. If one is wanting damage to the Obama establishment the weeds of deception have to be removed. As such the ‘birthers’ have been doing as much and more to remove Obama from office as the political system/government will allow. I believe that in the future the ‘birthers’ will be proven to be/been much more valuable to the preservation of the Founder’s intent for the USA than those who were just spectators to the events and causes.

[bluecat6]

Scanners will not pick up the void-secure feature that is designed to thwart standard photocopying. Hi-res scans will pickup the subtle detail but not change the background like a B/W photocopy.

I do not believe Hawaii uses paper with the void-secure feature.

They used to when Peter Boy’s COLB was created. But recent ones do not look like they have any void-secure feature.

Reference:

http://www.simpsonsecuritypapers.com/void.asp

http://www.highsecuritypaper.com/features—basketweave.html

From link directly above:

“Basketweave Security is an old security feature. For many years, this was the only security feature used when printing checks. Due to the development of color copiers, the basketweave background is easily copied. “

Hawaii use of basketweave-only security feature on its documents is a joke.

This all said the LFBC is still not an authentic scan at all - hence why it should be called the ‘Laughably Fake Birth Certificate”.

[4Zoltan]

Assuming you are talking about the Alabama Supreme Court:

http://judicial.alabama.gov/library/rules/ap29.pdf

If you are talking about the US Supreme Court:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/rule_37

[SvenMagnussen]

Anatomy of a Sealed Adoption File

Envelope used to seal original BC post-adoption



Original BC post-adoption

[bluecat6]

Here is a good page with a grid of security features.

http://www.highsecuritypaper.com/grid.html

Here is a list of the techologies:

http://www.highsecuritypaper.com/Securitytechnologies.html

Note that some feature are overt. Some features are covert.

Hawaii seems to use paper that contains one single feature - basketweave security.

http://www.highsecuritypaper.com/features—basketweave.html

“Due to the development of color copiers, the basketweave background is easily copied. “

There appears to be no other security feature to Hawaii documents.

Most states BC documents use paper that includes 2 or 3 or more security feature.

[butterdezillion]

There is one way to tell that this is a fabrication though - only because you didn’t know about a particular feature on Hawaii’s security paper so you didn’t make provision for it. The people who created Obama’s PDF also didn’t know about that feature, apparently, because their background layer looks just like yours. It’s a dead giveaway that what is on the PDF is NOT what Hawaii gave to Judy Corley.

[butterdezillion]

And BTW, the copy that the AL Dem Party put in the amicus brief has the same flaw in the background as your example and the White House image have, so this copy could not have come from the HDOH either. It was either copied from the White House file, or fabricated from scratch.

[Fantasywriter]

Do you actually know any black people? As close friends, I mean? Did they say something to you along the lines of, ‘Sure Obama is black like me, but I prefer Hillary because the Clintons are incredibly popular w blacks in general. As for Pfleger’s routine about the privileged white woman holding down the uppity upstart black man—I just ignored it. Pfleger is obviously a racist, so why should I listen to him?’

[nickcarraway]

Someone associated with the Clintons is a liar? How dare I suggest such a thing? This site was partially founded on a disapproval of the Clintons, now we have Freepers who practically want to make the Clintons into saints. Very scary.

I have exactly the same core beliefs now, that I had before Obama became president. My question to you, is why would you let this man change your core beliefs?

[nickcarraway]

You have been a Freeper since Clinton was actually president. Do you have any memory of that era? Apparently not, because according to you that never happened? Did Clinton go to Feinstein's house? Maybe, they were both Democrat Senators.

If Obama is the Grabd Imperial Ruler of the Universe, why did he make Hillary Clinton his Secretary of State? He sure as heck didn't want her there. He had to, because the Clintons are still powerful in Democratic politics. Even though he won the primary, (only because of a miscalculation on Hillary's part), he still had to make nice with the Clintons. If there was some kind of intergalactic conspiracy, why didn't they find Hillary's body after she supposedly committed suicide?

[nickcarraway]

My advice would be to be completely under the radar until they have a smoking gun. Otherwise, they are just inviting themselves to be ignored. It may not be fair, but that’s the way it is. You have to deal with the situation that exists.

[nickcarraway]

LOL. Yes, I know black people.

But, you don't have to look very far to go back and see the support for Hillary. Even among many famous people who happen to be black, they were supporting Hillary. I think Hillary was considered a strong favorite until a certain point. Remember, in 2007 there was a huge debate among some blacks, over whether Senator Obama, was, "authentically black." (I believe it may have been Rev. Al Sharpton who used that phrase)

[MHGinTN]

No tool, little barry bastard boy is not the ruler of the universe. If you had better reading comprehension you would have noticed that I wrote BOTH were summoned to Feinstein’s house. Someone more powerful than Feinstein, hatellary, and little barry was pulling all their strings. But that was a nice try at misdirection and mischaracterization.

[Fantasywriter]

You are either unwilling or unable to distinguish between the pundit class of blacks & regular black people (who supported Obama to the tune of around 98%). There was no big debate among non-pundit blacks. He was black to them, & certainly black compared to Hillary. The black community couldn’t care less about Sharpton’s navel gazing; they grasped which candidate looked more like them.

As to the Pfleger rant/video, you seem—& it’s not too harsh a word—clueless. Have you really no idea what it does to the black psyche, to tell them that an ‘entitled’ white woman is trying to screw over an uppity black man? After Pfleger made that case & it went viral, Obama cleared the field. If you had any genuine black friends you cd ask them & they wd tell you. Pfleger was a game changer.

Hillary couldn’t do much of anything after that w’out being perceived as a racist. Obama came right out & called BJ Clinton a racist, just to underscore the point. Do you think blacks reacted by thinking Obama should have been more circumspect w his accusations? If so, you’re hopelessly out of touch. The black community was not in criticize-Obama-mode; they were in so-the-Clintons-are-not-the-friends-we-thought-they-were mode.

Here’s a link to give you a sense of Pfleger’s status in the black community. There’s plenty more where this one came from; finding black accolades for Pfleger is an embarrassment of riches quest:

http://www.ebony.com/news-views/enough-father-michael-pfleger-993#axzz2RbVYFSAf

[nickcarraway]

I respectfully disagree. Many black people were very loyal and supportive of the Clintons. I heard many average, every day black people who were supporting Hillary. At a certain point, when it appeared likely that Obama could win, a lot of Democrats, including some black people, switched to Obama. By November 2007, Hillary had a 24% lead over Obama among black voters, which rose from a 17% lead among black voters 6 months earlier. Obama won Iowa by white voters, and caucus organization. After he built up a head of steam, black voters started switching to him. Does it bother you?

[Fantasywriter]

Please cite the source of those polls, along w the internals, etc.. As to IA, what are the demographics? What percentage of the state is black? What percentage of blacks vs whites caucus?

[Ray76]

The point is that we have another document of unknown provenance being presented as a scan or copy of the original.

If the “original” existed physically then it must have been printed on plain white paper.

[ObligedFriend]

“You know, I actually did. I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school.” Obama

He graduated 1979, there was no requirement to register until July 1980.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-voices/obama-military-story-doesn%E2%80%99t-add

[4Zoltan]

When you say the “original” are you talking about what the Hawaii DOH has in their files, because that is definitely on plain white paper. At least that’s what the DOH told WND’s forensic document examiner.

But my point in showing the other Hawaiian BCs and death certificate is that they do not say void. In fact, I cannot recall seeing a recent Hawaii BC that shows the word VOID when scanned.

The AP copy of Obama’s LFBC has no green security background (except in the shadow caused by the curve in the bound volume). Is this part of the security measures? Does a copier produce a different light from a scanner, one that makes the green disappear?