LOL!
Posted on 04/16/2013 12:10:24 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
All full of his normal bombast and bluster, on 4/11/13, Bill O’Reilly once again proved he hadn’t a grasp on the subject at hand, whether or not to legalize marijuana.
His plan is to put responsible adults or children who smoke into the legal system, destroying them and their families. He wants to keep feeding the corrupt legal system that thrives off of these “offenses/freedoms” (depending on your point of view).
He wants these draconian punishments because he feels that pot will destroy anyone trying it, a view responsible for turning more people into...
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How many times do we have to try Prohibition before we realize it's an utterly stupid, thoroughly bad idea?
Sorry but O’Reilly is absolutely right on this issue. You have absolutelt no real perspective on the real harm marijuana has done to hundreds of thousands “casual” users. It has been well documented to be a gateway drug, has been clearly associated with schizophrenia and a host of personality disorders that have ruined or diminished lives. No reputable rehabilitation specialist or addiction professional condones its use. It is especially dangerous when used by adolesents. The US has declined markedly since marijuana use has become widespread. The argument that its use is a matter of “personal freedom” is not the sort of rot one should find on FR.
The gateway claim is nonsense - research shows that the correlation between earlier marijuana use and later use of other drugs can be explained by a "common-factor" model, that is, a third factor that causes both results, such as individuals' opportunities and unique propensities to use drugs, or more broadly a social or psychological predisposition towards anti-social behavior. (http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_briefs/RB6010/index1.html, http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hors253.pdf)
Also note that the same sort of correlation between earlier marijuana and later harder drugs also exists between earlier alcohol and tobacco and later illegal drugs - so if marijuana is a "gateway" so are alcohol and tobacco.
has been clearly associated with schizophrenia and a host of personality disorders that have ruined or diminished lives.
Association is not causation - it's equally plausible that the mentally ill turn to marijuana in a misguided attempt to self-medicate.
No reputable rehabilitation specialist or addiction professional condones its use.
Nor the use of tobacco - shall we ban that too?
It is especially dangerous when used by adolesents.
Nobody advocates making marijuana legal for minors.
The US has declined markedly since marijuana use has become widespread.
The US has declined markedly since flat-screen TVs have become widespread.
Your post is absolute BS so long as alchohol remains legal. It’s BS for other reasons, too, but especially this one, considering how much worse of a blight on our civilization is booze compared to weed.
Duh. Are conservatives not me really that dumb? I don’t think so.
Nice script. Who wrote it for you, Jack Webb?
The razor-sharp mind of the Drug Warrior at work. By comparison, Cheech and Chong were rocket scientists.
“The US has declined markedly since marijuana use has become widespread.”
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. This was also a period of time during which people were shielded from the consequences of their actions like never before. Plus a million different things, none of which have anything in particular to do with weed. I don’t know how you know weed caused the decline in importance of family, church, community, etc., instead of the other way around.
Even if weed is to blame, it is unjust to pretend growing, dealing, and smoking it are crimes. Whoever told you freedom didn’t have a price? A marked decline is worth it, considering how much worse is prohibition.
Hey Bill I guess its a major crime to smoke dope but stalking and talking dirty on the phone to your producer is A OK huh Buddy?
The argument that its use is a matter of “personal freedom” is not the sort of rot one should find on FR.
Sorry, allendale, but this is Free Republic, not Leftist Extremist Republic. So long as I'm not harming others, my life is mine to do with as I please.
I smoked pot as a college kid in the late 1960s and early 1970s. I never did learn to like the taste or smell of it, and abandoned it in 1972. I can't imagine I'd ever want to smoke it again, but if I ever do, that's my inherent right.
What's so hard to understand about rights?
The key to understanding where Bull OReilly is coming from is this imo. Constitution-ignorant “patriots” need to get a grip on the concept that Obama guard dog OReilly borrows Obama’s teleprompter when Obama isn’t using it.
But seriously, we will probably never hear pro-OWG OReilly reference state sovereignty-related constitutonal statutes such as Congress’s Article I, Section 8-limited powers, Article V and the 10th Amendment in his public policy debates. I had put my faith in Fx News’s phony comfort zone for conservatives for years, but realized the error of my ways a couple years after Obama was first elected.
What I never got about the gateway argument is why it excludes smoking and drinking, which if I recall childhood accurately came before marijuana “experimentation.” Obviously, the answer is we tried banning booze and failed, and smokers are too big a lobby, even though they toy the runnaround with those idiotic lawsuits and stupid restrictions based on the nonexistent threat of “secondhand smoke.” Weed smokers, contrariwise, are still a small enough minority to beat upon.
How does the gateway argument stretch past childhood, while we’re at it? Why can’t it be like booze, whereby the law pretends we’re minors for three years after the age of majority? Or it could be like cigarettes, with which we deal ever so more rationally. Why can’t 70 year olds, for instance, light up? Are we afraid marijuana would doom their 80s to a haze of meth abuse?
I have a problem with the drug laws when they make illegal drugs easier for kids to get then alcohol. A 16 year old kid can buy all kinds of drugs off the street without much difficulty. The drug dealer doesn’t ask for anything but the cash to pay for the drugs. I think the drug war is lost when kids have a harder time buying cigarettes and alcohol then they do buying drugs.
LOL!
How much freedom does a drug addict who is a slave to drugs enjoy?
How much freedom do people who can't walk their streets because of high levels of crime connected to drugs enjoy?
Sometime ago he either flipped a coin or stuck his finger into the wind and decided that he could make more money fooling conservatives than liberals.
If he happens to be right every once in a while it is merely accidental or just part of the act.
I don’t know if licker and smokes are harder to come by than other drugs. In the first place there’s a much better chance your parents are stocked with cigarettes and booze than weed. Also, older friends and siblings are easily pressed into service to buy you what you’ll be able to buy for yourself in a few years. Maybe it comes down to the fact that dealers tend to deal in substances which are illegal for adults, too, because there’s no market for the stuff you can get on your own without much hassle.
I remember when I was in high school, which wasn’t too long ago, anyone who wanted to could smoke and most parties were booze parties. Weed smokers were a more particular bunch. The only ones who used crystal and other harder drugs were burnouts. I do recall hearing that nowadays heroin is back in a big way because it’s cheaper than the various prescription opiates kids steal from their parents. I could see something similar happening with cigarettes or booze.
Criminologist refutes cannabis-related crime increase claims - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3005416/posts
How much freedom does a drug addict who is a slave to drugs enjoy?
About as much as an alcohol or tobacco addict.
How much freedom do people who can't walk their streets because of high levels of crime connected to drugs enjoy?
Criminalization of drugs motivates crime by hyperinflating drug prices - and puts the profits in criminal hands.
Bit of a dopey or perhaps dope inspired rebuttal. You simply don’t have the proper cultural perspective.
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