Posted on 04/08/2013 7:14:00 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
In truth, Obama's background is more than compelling. It's a tragedy. In 1971, Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, arrived at Hawaii International Airport as an unaccompanied minor with Indonesian Nationality.
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Obama's original long form birth certificate was sealed and archived after a Court order to seal it. A Certificate of Live Birth for Barry Soetoro, son of Lolo Soetoro and Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, was created and filed as part of the finalized adoption order.
In 1971, Barry Soetoro was taken into protective custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. His legal custody was transferred to Catholic Social Services of Connecticut while his grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, was appointed his legal guardian.
Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was under contract the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to provide child welfare services for minors with foreign nationality in 1971. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is discharged with the duty of administering the Federal Foster Care program. Obama entered the Federal Foster Care program in 1971 and was not discharged from the child welfare program for foreign nationals until he reached the age of majority, 18 years-old, August 4, 1979.
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Shortly after Obama arrived in Hawaii and was taken into Federal Foster Care, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro and Barack Hussein Obama Sr. returned to Hawaii to appear at a child custody hearing. It was at this hearing Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro testified Barry Soetoro, a/k/a/ Barack Hussein Obama II, was not the son Barack Hussein Obama Sr. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. had returned to Hawaii at the request of the U.S. State Department to testify he was the birth father of Barack Hussein Obama II,...
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Okay, here’s my final answer as to why Obama’s case manager at CSS of CT applied for a SSN on Obama’s behalf in 1977 ...
“1977 Food Stamp Act of 1977 (P.L. 96-58) required disclosure of SSNs of all household members as a condition of eligibility for participation in the Food Stamp program.”
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/history/reports/ssnreportap.html
Look for 402 a) 25) near the top, and for
232 10) a) 2) further down.
This doc is 1975.
So, again my question, why was 0’s SSN issued in 1977 and not in 1971?
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Final Rule: Title IV-D of the Social Security Act: Child Support Enforcement Program AT-75-01
June 26, 1975
State/Local Child Support Agencies Case Management, Enforcement, Locate, Order Establishment, Paternity Establishment, State Plan, Federal Systems, Federal Parent Locator Service (FPLS), Funding, Federal Financial Participation (FFP), Incentive Policy, Action Transmittals (AT), Regulations Cooperative Agreement, Social Security Number (SSN)
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ACTION TRANSMITTAL
OCSE-AT-75-01
June 26, 1975
TO: STATE IV-D AGENCY ADMINISTRATORS AND OTHER INTERESTED AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS
SUBJECT:Title IV-D of the Social Security Act: Child Support Enforcement Program
REGULATION REFERENCE:Chapter III, of Title 45.
ATTACHMENT:Final regulations to implement the Child Support Enforcement Program established by Part B of P.L. 93-647.
EFFECTIVE: July 1, 1975
ACTION REQUIRED:Implement a Child Support Enforcement Program.
PROGRAM APPLICABILITY:Child Support Enforcement Program
BACKGROUND:The proposed regulation was transmitted to you by SRS-AT-075-12(AO), dated May 8, 1975; and, SRS-AT-75-13, May 9, 1975.
INQUIRIES TO:Regional Office of Child Support Enforcement
Acting Director, Office of Child
Support Enforcement
Title 45-—Public Welfare
CHAPTER II—SOCIAL AND REHABILITATION SERVICE (ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS), DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, EDUCATION, AND WELFARE
CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
General Administration
Notice of proposed rule making implementing certain provisions of Part B of Pub. L. 93-647 which impose new requirements under title IV-A of the Social Security Act as it relates to Child Support Enforcement was published in the Federal Register on May 2, 1975 (40 FR 19207).
We received 156 responses to the notice of proposed rule making from public welfare agencies, District Attorneys, private citizens, advocate groups, a Governor, and State Attorneys General. Most comments suggested improvements and clarifications in the regulations. Many of these suggestions are reflected in the final regulations. For example, several comments recommended a more precise definition of “cooperation” in § 232.12. The definition of “cooperation” in the final regulation has been expanded to provide better guidelines to agencies administering this AFDC requirement. However, a substantial number of comments raised objections which could only be resolved by amending the legislation upon which the regulations are based. For example, 85 identical letters were received from private citizens objecting to the requirement of furnishing social security account numbers in § 232.10. Since furnishing these numbers is specifically required by section 402(a)(25) of the Social Security Act as amended by Pub. L. 93-647, this requirement could not be deleted from the final regulation.
The vast majority of the changes made in the final regulations are either technical in nature or represent clarification of certain provisions of the proposed regulations. Major changes include the following:
1. Paragraph (a)(1)(i)(A) of § 205.50 has been changed to define a public official.
2. Paragraph (c) has been added to § 205.50 to conform the safeguarding of information regulation to the requirements contained in title XX of the Social Security Act relating to disclosure of information.
3. Paragraph (a)(2) of § 232.10 has been changed to specify that applicants and recipients are to comply with enumeration procedures that have been established with the Social Security Administration, or to apply for social security account numbers directly if such procedures are not in effect.
4. Paragraph (b) of § 232.11 has been added to specify that the requirement of this section may be met if the State has a statute that causes support rights to be assigned by operation of law.
5. Paragraph (b) of § 232.12 is added to further define cooperation. The provisions lists with greater specificity therequirements for cooperation in securing support.
6. Paragraph (c) of § 232.12 is added to specify that evidence of failure to cooperate submitted by the Child Support Agency to the IV-A agency shall be utilized by the IV-A agency to determine if the applicant or recipient is eligible for assistance.
7. Section 232.20 has been expanded to specify the treatment that the IV-A agency shall give to amounts of child support collections that have been made in a month and when such amounts shall or shall not be treated as income. Such amounts shall be treated as income in the month they are paid to the family by the IV-D agency. If these amounts are sufficient to make the family ineligible for an assistance payment, they will be paid to the family in the month for which the IV-A agency utilized these amounts to determine eligibility for an assistance payment and they will be income in that month (See 45 CFR 302.32). If these amounts are not sufficient to make the family ineligible for an assistance payment, they will be paid to the family in accordance with 45 CFR 302.51. The IV-A agency is also required to pay to the Federal government its share of collections made.
8. Technical amendments have been made to § § 233.20 and 233.90 so they will conform to the provisions of Part 232.
9. Paragraph (a) of § 235.70 has been clarified by adding a definition of the terms “furnishing” and “aid” to specify the precise time at which the IV-A agency must notify the IV-D agency that aid has been furnished under the IV-A program.
Accordingly, after considering all the comments, the proposed regulations, as modified, are adopted.
Chapter II, Title 45 of the Code of Federal Regulations is revised as follows:
PART 205—GENERAL ADMINISTRATION—PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
1. Section 205.50 is amended by revising paragraph (a); redesignating paragraph (b) as (d) and adding a new paragraph (b) and (c) as set forth below:
§ 205.50 Safeguarding information for the financial assistance and social services programs.
(a) State plan requirements. A State plan under title I, IV-A, IV-D, VI, X, XIV, or XVI, of the Social Security Act, except as provided in paragraph (c) of this section, must provide that:
(1) Pursuant to State statute which imposes legal sanctions:
(i) The use or disclosure of information concerning applicants and recipients will be limited to public officials who require such information in connection with their official duties, except that use or disclosure of information provided under 20 CFR Part 401 shall be limited to purposes directly connected with the administration of the program; and to other persons for purposes directly connected with the administration of the program. Such purposes include establishing eligibility, determining amount of assistance, and providing services for applicants and recipients. Under the requirement concerning the use or disclosure of information to public officials, such information shall be available only to public officials who certify in writing that:
(A) They are public officials as defined by State or Federal laws of general applicability; and
(B) The information to be disclosed or used is required in connection with their official duties.
* * * * *
(b) State plan requirements for the medical assistance programs. A State plan under title XIX of the Social Security Act must meet all the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, except that disclosure shall be limited to purposes directly connected with the administration of the program.
(c) State administrative plan requirements for the Social Service program. A State administrative plan under title XX of the Social Security Act must meet all the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, except that disclosure shall be limited to purposes directly connected with the purposes of that program, the plan of the State approved under Part A of title IV, the plan of the State developed under Part B of that title, the Supplemental Security Income program established by title XVI, or the plan of the State approved under title XIX;
* * * * *
2. A new Part 232 is added to read as follows :
PART 232—SPECIAL PROVISIONS APPLICABLE TO TITLE IV-A OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT
Sec.
232.1 scope.
232.2 child support program; State plan requirement.
232.10 Furnishing of social security numbers.
232.11 Assignment of rights to support.
232.12 Cooperation in obtaining support.
232.20 Disregard of payments under section 457 of the Act.
(Authority: Sec. 1102 49 Stat 647 (42 U.S.C. 1302))
§ 232.1 Scope.
This part implements provisions of Part B of P.L. 93-647 that are applicable only to title IV-A.
§ 232.2 Child Support program; State plan requirements.
The State plan must specify that the State:
(a) Has in effect a plan approved under part D of title IV of the Act; and
(b) Operates a child support program in conformity with suchplan.
§ 232.10 Furnishing of social security numbers.
The State plan must provide that:
(a) As a condition of eligibility, each applicant for or recipient of aid will be required:
(1) To furnish to the State or local agency a social security account number, hereinafter referred to as the SSN (or numbers, if more than one has been issued); and
(2) If he cannot furnish a SSN (either because such SSN has not been issued or is not known), to apply for such number through procedures adopted by the State or local agency with the Social Security Administration. If such procedures are not in effect, the applicant or recipient shall apply directly for such number, submit verification of such application, and provide the number upon its receipt.
(b) For new applicants, the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section shall be effective July 1, 1975: and, for current recipients, it shall be effective as determined by the State agency but not later than the time of the next redetermination of eligibility required by § 206.- 10(a)(9) of this chapter.
(c) The State or local agency will assist the applicant or recipient in making applications for SSNs and will comply with the procedures and requirements established by the Social Security Administration for application, issuance, and verification of social security account numbers. For purposes of AFDC foster care, the application for the SSN will be made by the State or local agency.
(d) The State or local agency will not deny, delay, or discontinue assistance pending the issuance or verification of such numbers if the applicant or recipient has complied with the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section.
(e) The State or local agency will use such account numbers, in addition to any other means of identification it may determine to employ, in the administration of the plan.
(f) “Applicant” and “recipient” include the caretaker relative, the children, and any other individual whose needs are considered in determining the amount of assistance.
(g) The State or local agency shall notify the applicant or recipient that the furnishing of the SSN is a condition of eligibility for assistance required by section 402(a)(25) of the Social Security Act and that the SSN will be utilized in the administration of the AFDC program.
“I have specifically withheld information on when, where and under what circumstance I obtained my direct knowledge of the documents through eye-witness examination because I could be called as a rebuttal witness in a civil suit.”
What civil suit? And how is anyone going to know how to subpoena you in the first place? Nobody has your real name or where you live. Orly thinks you live in Sweden.
Food stamps!!!????!!!!
Granny dunham got FOOD STAMPS!!!????
Worked at a bank and got.... FOOD STAMPS!!!????
Bwahahahahaaaaaa
(OK for those interested in the history of the SSN going back to 1961, here’s it is, from Sven’s link:
1961 The Civil Service Commission adopted the SSN as an official Federal employee identifier.
Internal Revenue Code Amendments (P.L. 87-397) required each taxpayer to furnish identifying number for tax reporting.
1962 The Internal Revenue Service adopted the SSN as its official taxpayer identification number.
1964 Treasury Department, via internal policy, required buyers of series H savings bonds to provide their SSNs.
1965 Internal Revenue Amendments (P.L. 89-384) Medicare enacted. It became necessary for most individuals age 65 and older to have an SSN.
1966 The Veterans Administration began to use the SSN as the hospital admissions number and for patient record-keeping.
1967 The Department of Defense, by a Secretary of Defense memorandum, adopted the SSN in lieu of the military service number for identifying Armed Forces personnel.
1970 Bank Records and Foreign Transactions Act (P.L. 91-508) required all banks, savings and loan associations, credit unions and brokers/dealers in securities to obtain the SSNs of all of their customers. Also, financial institutions were required to file a report with the IRS, including the SSN of the customer, of each deposit, withdrawal, exchange of currency or other payment or transfer involving more than $10,000.
1971 SSA task force published a report on issues raised by nonprogram SSN use which proposed that SSA take a “cautious and conservative” position toward SSN use and do nothing to promote the use of the SSN as an identifier. The report recommended that SSA:
Use mass SSN enumeration in schools as a long-range, cost-effective approach to tightening up the SSN system, and Consider cooperating with specific health, education and welfare uses of the SSN by State, local, and other nonprofit organizations.
1972 Social Security Amendments of 1972 (P.L. 92-603):
Required SSA to issue SSNs to all legally admitted aliens at entry and to anyone receiving or applying for any benefit paid for by Federal funds; Required SSA to obtain evidence to establish age, citizenship, or alien status and identity. Authorized SSA to enumerate children below school age at the request of parents and at the time they first entered school.
1973 Buyers of series E savings bonds are required by the Treasury Department to provide their SSNs.
1973 Report of the Department of Health Education and Welfare (HEW; now Health and Human Services (HHS)) Secretary’s Advisory Committee on Automated Personal Data System concluded that the adoption of a universal identifier by this country was not desirable; also found that the SSN was not suitable for such a purpose as it does not meet the criteria of a universal identifier that distinguishes a person from all others.
1974 Privacy Act (P.L. 93-579) enacted effective September 27, 1975 to limit governmental use of the SSN:
Provided that no State or local government agency may withhold a benefit from a person simply because the individual refuses to furnish his or her SSN. Required that Federal, State and local agencies which request an individual to disclose his/her SSN inform the individual if disclosure was mandatory or voluntary. (This was the first mention of SSN use by local governments.)
1975 Social Services Amendments of 1974 (P.L. 93-647) provided that:
Disclosure of an individual’s SSN as a condition of eligibility for Aid to Families With Dependent Children (AFDC, now Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF)) benefits; and Office of Child Support Enforcement Parent Locator Service may require disclosure of limited information (including SSN and whereabouts) contained in SSA records.
1976 Tax Reform Act of 1976 (P.L. 94-455) included the following amendments to the Social Security Act:
Authorized SSN use by the States in the administration of any tax, general public assistance, drivers license or motor vehicle registration law within their jurisdiction and to authorize the States to require individuals affected by such laws to furnish their SSNs to the States; Made misuse of the SSN for any purpose a violation of the Social Security Act; and Made disclosure or compelling disclosure of the SSN of any person a violation of the Social Security Act. Amended 6109 of the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) to provide that the SSN be used as the tax identification number for all tax purposes. While the Treasury Department had been using the SSN as the tax identification number by regulation since 1962, this law codifies that requirement.
1976 Federal Advisory Committee on False Identification recommended that penalties for misuse be increased and evidence requirements tightened; rejected the idea of national identifier and did not even consider the SSN for such a purpose.
1977 Food Stamp Act of 1977 (P.L. 96-58) required disclosure of SSNs of all household members as a condition of eligibility for participation in the Food Stamp program
“You, and a few others, seem to think I haven’t seen the documents because I can’t post a photograph, pdf or video of the documents I have stated to be in existence.”
Why can’t you post a photograph, a pdf or video of the documents? It’s the internet Sven.
I’ll see your 1977 law and raise you a 1972 law from that link you posted :
NOTICE THIS PART
“REQUIRED SSA TO ISSUE SSNs TO .... AND TO ANYONE RECEIVING OR APPLYING FOR ANY BENEFIT PAID FOR BY FEDERAL FUNDS”
1972 Social Security Amendments of 1972 (P.L. 92-603):
Required SSA to issue SSNs to all legally admitted aliens at entry and to anyone receiving or applying for any benefit paid for by Federal funds; Required SSA to obtain evidence to establish age,citizenship,or alien status and identity. Authorized SSA to enumerate children below school age at the request of parents and at the time they first entered school.
Documentation File on the harmful impact of the Counterculture of Communist Obamanation on Freedom of Choice in America.
Portions of this File are also useful for the Impeachment of the legal citizen of Indonesia Barry Soetoro, also known as B. Hussein Obama, a confirmed Communist.
UnwashedPeasant wrote:
“Is this a red herring to discredit Birthers and add noise to the issue?”
Its worse.
Its lutefisk.
Obama did not sign up for the Draft in 1980.
He forged it in 2008.
Sven is a problem. His accusation stands with no holes.
Sheay, you whack job!
In 1980!!!
Where was Barry supposedly around this time and how old was he?
Yeah?
Let’s get technical Sven.
Under what circumstance, privilege or requirement would Barry have been obligated to register, under your currently “well thought” scenario?
Think it through. I’ve been at this since 2007....
Blah, Blah, Blah and IBTZ
You ain’t cut out fer hereins....
We don’t seem to think you haven’t seen proof of the Won’s existence, you haven’t provided credible evidence, erh, rather, you have thus far provided smoke up my azz. Well, cept I’m prepared for pipe smokers, such as yerself and you ain’t getting no where near muh bumb.
Your claims are bogus and don’t even arise to the point of being bunk...
In fact, we haven’t created a word to adequately describe your specialness of claim.
Not true.
There is ahole there....
“If he didn’t naturalize as a U.S. Citizen, then he is a permanent resident alien or an undocumented guest worker. Can we agree on this much?”
No I don’t agree. You omitted: illegal alien.
“undocumented guest worker” Gak!
YOU’RE SO FULL OF IT YOUR EYES ARE BROWN.
You claim “Obama has a Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983”. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
FOLKS: IGNORE THIS TROLL.
How long did it take for you to work this fairy tale out, Obama?
“Obama has a Certificate of Naturalization issued to him in 1983”
Come on Sven let’s see your proof.
You lead everyone down these rat hole TANGENTS.
SUBSTANTIATE YOUR CLAIM.
Do it. Or be a troll. YOUR CHOICE.
Comments to Sven are a frame for him to spin his web on.
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