Posted on 03/15/2013 6:05:32 PM PDT by Tainan
I'm not really one to get involved in "conspiracy" theories - but, like many here, I receive a number of emails from folks around the world on various topics.
I have recently received more than a few, from some folks I know to be highly reputable, on some factors that have come to light about the school shootings in Sandy Hook.
In the past I have just deleted these stories - not really worth my time to look farther into the latest 'wack-job' stuff.
But this thing does seem to have some legs now.
It seems to be a fact that the Dept. of Homeland Security does have employed a group of "Crisis Actors." (I'd like to know the GS ratings on those) And it also seems that several of those persons have been reliably placed on camera as "grieving parents" after the school incident.
A Bing search on "Sandy Hook Actors" gives a long list of items which, if followed closely to sort out the weird, seems to have a great deal of ever-mounting credence as to a manipulated crisis having occurred at Sandy Hook.
Any discussion points on this my fellow FReepers?
Maybe a good week-end thread topic?
OMG. Your question is (trying to be charitable) not too well thought out. It means that if it were ever established that even one parent was exposed as an actor it would call into the question the validity of the entire event. Is this really hard to understand>?
No problem. Here you go. Just take an old dummy account or page and change the name.
For example, I have an old, unused account on Facebook. Just a few tweeks to the name and settings and BAM! A guy named UncleChip Danamco has been on Facebook since 2008 (don’t worry, I’ll change it back from your names in a few minutes).
https://www.facebook.com/themobile.learner
That took all but a minute or two. If I really wanted to have fun, I can go like a bunch of crackpot pages, change a bunch of personal info to make it look like you are a Gay Rodeo Clown, then just use the privacy settings to hide when the changes were made. That would take a whole other five minutes.
Trolls do this kind of stuff all the time. Almost every tragedy, within hours you can go to Facebook and search the name and see dozens of accounts for the major players, many looking like they have been there a long time and fool the media often simply by doing what I did above, just taking it to the next level.
Because it makes FR look stupid.
Considering the victims are children, I can pretty much guarantee they won't be released. Some folks were freaking about the investigation documents were sealed the other day and I posted a link to standard court procedures and if Children are the victims, investigations are almost always sealed or highly redacted. Just a legal thing.
And if you want even more details, there are thousands of websites that will tell you how. Example:
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Fake-Facebook-Page-Seem-Real
Well then have at it. Start checking those SAG cards.
Maybe, a tad. But that’s the price you pay for allowing free speech. Obama’s BC is another so-called conspiracy, but I happen to be 100% certain that the White House posted long form BC is a fraud. Does that also make FR look stupid? It may, but it also just happens to be the truth.
What is hard to understand is how you are just waking up to this now despite the fact that you were here at FR when the facts of Sandy Hook were discussed ad infinitum for weeks after the event -- and yet you were AWOL.
Issues in this case that you want to dredge up and rehash were discussed here infinitum for two months and you never posted diddly squat.
And you would have us all believe that all of a sudden now you just woke up to Sandy Hook and are concerned that how some people came across on camera indicates that the event did not happen.
I'm sorry but I'm not buying your concern. It's a bad act. The only crisis actor here is you -- and you're act is not credible.
Is that hard to understand???
How do you change the date and hours on the postings???
Too funny. I’ve had this before. There are certain people on FR who never leave (God Bless ‘em each and every one), but there are others, such a meself, who work 80+ hour weeks, have kids, wife, 5 horses, two goats, two sheep, and various and sundry other assorted animals totaling approx. 50 or so. Excuse me for missing the tidbits, I see the big picture for sure.
You just hide them with the privacy settings or you can simply take the old postings and edit them with new content. Pretty easy. Even before they had the ‘edit’ button on comments, you could still do it if there is an image associated with it.
For example, you can take a post you made a year ago that said “I love Rodeo Clowns” with an image of the clown, edit it to say “Sandy Hook is a Conspiracy” and a picture of Lanza bam, it looks like you said that 9 months before Sandy Hook happened.
There are ways you can see the history, but most people jumping on this don’t do that or they are only pulling info from sites posting screen shots, not the actual pages.
If you just want to grab a screenshot and don’t care if the page is retained (after all, you just need a screenshot to fool most folks), you can even edit SOMEONE ELSE’s posts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=740DOJ7Fyw4
Here is an example (I didn’t change the photo because I need it, just the caption). This is from the same account, I changed the name back.
Look at the comment now.
TheMobile Learner
Watch for what happens in Sandy Hook five years
Like · · Unfollow Post · Share · Edit · July 19, 2008
It appears this person knew something would happen in Sandy Hook back in July of 2008.
In reality, even though it says 2008, I just changed it a few minutes ago.
So you are a low information poster???
There is a cure for that:
Go to Keywords and click sandyhook or newtown.
Pull up the old threads and have at it.
Thank you for the information!
At 82 you are are NOT tooooo old to learn new “tricks”!!
However, how do you safeguard yourself against that this so called 180 degree proof is NOT also a hoax in itself?
Saw a youtube presentation that somebody looked up Public Records showing ONLY three persons in the Lanza family; Peter, Nancy, Ryan, BUT no Adam with cross searching ALL three!!!
Also shown an Index page that an Adam died on December 13, (whoever that is) the day before the shooting?? Kind a nice to have a dead body available at the “crime scene”, right???
In both of those cases (as well as the conspiracy) it takes trusting the government doesn’t screw things up, like entering dates on a form (don’t tell me you never enter the wrong date on a check register). For example, the ‘index page’ was corrected almost immediately and they released a statement saying it was an entry error.
With all of these, just use a little common sense. The so called conspiracy is so complex there would need to be so many involved and so much prior planning it would make the Manhattan project look simple.
Think about it with all the stories floating around it would involve: killing Lanza before it happened, killing his mother, staging ‘CIA Assassins’ dressed as nuns years before in the school to prepare for this. Being in control enough to do all that but out of control enough to allow players in it to create facebook pages and enter data too early? Using less powerful guns that are less efficient then claiming a more powerful gun was used even though it was seen in the trunk. Of course, faking the existence of all the children and getting a bunch more fake children and fake parents as actors all to take part...
When you look at the conspiracies put together it is insane.
Now, look at it rationally. Crap like this happens because there is evil in the world. There is a shooting like this every few years. It just happens. The president simply waits and ‘doesn’t let a tragedy go to waste’, capitalizing on the event.
What seems more plausible?
I put it on par with Holocaust deniers. Some people will disregard all the data to see what they want to see.
Well, something happened at Sandy Hook. Not sure of who really was involved other than what we have heard, but one way or another, I am sure the details have been manipulated and we won’t know the truth.
Any further release of info won’t come until all original reports become dim in the memories of people.
Seems the same thing has happened with Fast and Furious and Benghazi.
Why would Adam Lanza have any “public records”? Did he ever buy or sell a home, get married, get divorced, sue someone, be sued by someone, apply for a business license, have tax liens filed against him, get arrested? IIRC, he didn’t even have a driver’s license, never held a job, and wasn’t registered to vote and didn’t have a Face Book or Twitter account. In his High School year book, there is no photo of him but a place mark with his name and the caption “camera shy”. He was described as being shy, reclusive, friendless and anti-social to an extreme. In his case, the lack of “public records” doesn’t equal lack of existence.
BTW, a lot of YouTube presentations are, well completely wack. On You Tube you can find any number of wacky conspiracy theories such as alleged “proof” that 9-11 was an inside job and proof of alien UFO’s and all manner of really crazy stuff.
And as far as records go, as mnehring pointed out, even the government makes stupid errors. I have evidence of exactly that in my father’s U.S. Army discharge papers from WWII where the U.S. army shows on that form, my father having served in the ETO. The problem was he served entirely in the PTO.
He wanted to serve in the ETO and that was the “plan” originally, but because he was born in Norway which was occupied by the Germans and he still had close relatives in Norway including his grandfather who may or may not have been allied with the Norwegian underground and an aunt who may or may not have been either a Nazi collaborator or a double agent for the underground, and the fact that my father wasn’t yet a naturalized U.S. citizen when he was drafted, his orders were changed to the PTO.
In fact that government paperwork SNAFU along with a few others, delayed my father’s naturalization application.
Wait, what? You mean this speech of Obama drunk may not be real?
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