Sandy Hook Actors

internet ^ | 16 march 2013 | self

[Tainan]

I'm not really one to get involved in "conspiracy" theories - but, like many here, I receive a number of emails from folks around the world on various topics.
I have recently received more than a few, from some folks I know to be highly reputable, on some factors that have come to light about the school shootings in Sandy Hook.
In the past I have just deleted these stories - not really worth my time to look farther into the latest 'wack-job' stuff.
But this thing does seem to have some legs now.
It seems to be a fact that the Dept. of Homeland Security does have employed a group of "Crisis Actors." (I'd like to know the GS ratings on those) And it also seems that several of those persons have been reliably placed on camera as "grieving parents" after the school incident.
A Bing search on "Sandy Hook Actors" gives a long list of items which, if followed closely to sort out the weird, seems to have a great deal of ever-mounting credence as to a manipulated crisis having occurred at Sandy Hook.

Any discussion points on this my fellow FReepers?

Maybe a good week-end thread topic?

[Toespi]

I can remember columbine. Almost immediately there was continual footage of the aftermath, interviews with victims, parents, grandparents, photos of the victims, photos of the shooters, timelines, teacher interviews, the list is endless and went on for weeks. Something is just not right with this Sandy Hook event. It is like a secret cult thing and things are being hidden.

[Springfield Reformer]

Did he mention who or what they were afraid of? And what about this person? Can you describe him in detail? I’m asking because I’ve been watching these conspiracy threads and this clue is ... interesting. How long was the conversation? Is there more you could tell us?

[Tainan]

Along that line, Waco has also certainly turned out much different than it was first portrayed by the media.

We will see what we will see.

[Hildy]

HAve you actually lost a child to a violent crime?

[Alaska Wolf]

Anything is possible.

No, some things are highly improbable, some things are impossible. Do you believe Sandy Hook was indeed a government planned, financed and sanctioned action?

[Springfield Reformer]

Somebody lied. That’s true. I’m an attorney, so I’m naturally skeptical of everyone’s story. Yes, even the LEO. And the unnamed stranger too, of course. I read your link, and I don’t have enough information from that to be as sure as you are who lied. One thing is clear from your link. The pols interviewed were clueless libs bent on trying to push AR15s and “high cap” mags into Heller’s “unusual and dangerous” category. They add nothing to the evidence. Finding purported fearful first responders, by name, with credible stories, would be helpful.

[Uncle Chip]

We had a poster on here two months ago that said that his friend — an EMS who entered the school — said that the floor was littered with shells from the Bushmaster. It’s on an earlier thread.

Why would you use an inferior pistol if you have a superior Bushmaster hanging on your shoulders. It would be my weapon of choice over any kind of handgun.

Furthermore the second pistol he had was not a 10mm. So that would mean that he took the 10mm handgun and Bushmaster neither of which he used into the school, but instead just reloaded the one same 9mm over and over which would have then been so hot that he couldn’t hold it.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

“floor was littered with shells from the Bushmaster” also doesn’t convey who the shooter was.

[Mogger]

Do you believe Sandy Hook was indeed a government planned, financed and sanctioned action?

At this point, no.

Unless some credible evidence comes up to prove it such, still, no.

But still, never say never.

[Springfield Reformer]

Was the alleged EMS weapons qualified? Would they know the casings well enough to make that judgment? In court, and coming from a nonexpert witness, that would probably be struck down as conclusory opinion rather than admissible statement of observed fact. The same caution of course applies to the new unnamed witness.

Another wrinkle to consider. I am not an expert on guns either, but I am told a 9mm upper can be set on a Bushmaster lower. This has certain advantages for close range shooting (in which, BTW, I would personally prefer a pistol), such as less recoil, less overpenetration, etc. So it is at least a theoretical possibility both things are true, 9mm casings on site and a Bushmaster used, if the Bushmaster was custom.

And if it was custom, why not modded to be full auto? There are kits for that, which a prepper mom and true gun enthusiast would likely know about. And if full auto, it wouldn’t work as a wedge issue for a gun ban, because while Heller’s “unusual and dangerous” category might well apply to the custom weapon, that test wouldn’t have any traction at all on the standard, “commonly used” semi-auto weapon, and thus Lanza’s actual weapon as used would not work as a symbol for the gun control push.

And there remains the question of fear. If multiple unnamed witnesses are in fact afraid, what is the basis for that fear?

[Tainan]

Good solid questions. Thanks. Too many unanswered and avoided questions IMO.
Where are the crime scene photos? Have they been released?
And, as you mention, there is that question of 'fear.'

These persons may well be "unnamed"...but they are definitely not "unknown."

[Uncle Chip]

doesn’t convey who the shooter was.

Well then there is a 20 year old from that town who is missing and they need to put out an apb for him.

[Uncle Chip]

Where are the crime scene photos? Have they been released?

All that would do is feed some peoples' morbid curiosity. They probably won't be released and shouldn't be released.

[raybbr]

Did he mention who or what they were afraid of? And what about this person? Can you describe him in detail?

This is him. He says they are afraid of losing their jobs. When I said someone had to speak out he said that's what he was doing but I don't see where he's speaking out about the weapons used.

He did say another thing: Since "assault weapons" have been banned in CT for years and the Bushmaster Lanza used was a legally registered weapon therefore it could not be an "assault weapon". That kind of logic is lost on the liberals.

Photo: Andrew Gorosko Newtown resident Liam Heller commented on February 19 at the Newtown Action Alliance’s public forum on reducing gun violence.

This info is from Here...

[danamco]

REALLY? Could you show us creditable source that the 4 days prior on fb is a hoax, please. Also how the Index shows Adam somehow died the day BEFORE the shooting???

[Uncle Chip]

REALLY?

Yeh REALLY.

There are even places on the net that will show you how to do it because there are people that willing to fall for anything that pranksters post.

[Tainan]

Crime scene photos typically show spent cartridge cases, their location in relation to body location and provide a depiction of bullet trajectory. From this can be deduced caliber of weapon used, position of shooter and position of victim(s) at time of shooting. Plus a great deal more.
These photographs have historically served of great value in evaluation of crime scenes.

[Uncle Chip]

These photographs have historically served of great value in evaluation of crime scenes.

I'm sure they have and they will as technicians at the police crime lab will do a thorough job tracing every bullet to every shell casing to every magazine to every weapo n used, employing a lot of people, and a lot of overtime, and a lot of consultants, and producing a 2000 page report so technical that no one will read it.

But as far as your question: "Where are the crime scene photos? Have they been released?".

They don't release crime scene photos nowadays for numerous reasons.

[danamco]

So WHY do you not show us here how that is done in real time here. We will appreciate that, instead of just trying being someone throw out impossibilities and then muddying the water further, hello???

I’M PRETTY SURE YOU DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT WITHOUT FACEBOOK BEING A CONSPIRATOR!!!

[HMS Surprise]

You’re missing my point, which is understandable. All wars and coups are started with a false flag event. I have never said categorically that I do not believe that Sandy Hook happened. What I have said is that there are things that don’t make sense. And I am suspicious because of the immediate reaction of the left to go after guns. YOU know someone, intimately, who was involved. I don’t know you. Get it? You have the option of ignoring these conversations, yet you choose to continue embracing them. ?