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Democrats Crank Up Death Panel Talk Following Obama Win
Market Daily News ^ | January 1, 2013 | Kurt Nimmo

Posted on 01/26/2013 1:23:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Now that Obama has secured another four years in the White House, it is time for the administration to crank out more Obamacare propaganda, specifically arguments about the cost ineffectiveness of keeping old people alive.

Enter the internet’s liberal bellwether, Salon.com. Earlier today, the website posted an article by Matthew Yglesias, a blogger and Democrat operative who spent time at the Soros’ project, ThinkProgress.

According to Yglesias, old folks are “the key issue in the federal budget” and their welfare accounts “for the remarkable lack of apparent cost effectiveness of the American health care system.”

“When the patient is already over 80, the simple fact of the matter is that no amount of treatment is going to work miracles in terms of life expectancy or quality of life,” he writes.

Yglesias offers a chart to make his point.

Indeed, the chart reaches its steepest incline between the ages of 80 and 90. For the actuarial minded, however, the problem begins with those who have crossed the 60-year-old threshold.

In other words, following Mr. Yglesias logic, if the government is going to address the “remarkable lack of apparent cost effectiveness of the American health care system,” steps need to be taken to reduce cost at the lower end of the curve.

We can now expect more and more Democrats to talk about what was heretofore unmentionable — death panels. Yglesias, in fact, uses the phrase in his headline...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2008electionbias; abortion; bho44; bhohealthcare; dealthpanelgraph; deathpanels; demagogicparty; elderly; euthanasia; healthcaregraph; obama; obamacare; obamaliedgrandmadied; obamalies; palin; sarahpalinwasright; seniors; zerocare
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So we can all have government healthcare—except for when we really need it!


21 posted on 01/26/2013 1:50:47 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: justa-hairyape

One of the reasons congress excluded themselves. They plan on drawing the taxpayer fund pension as long as they can.


22 posted on 01/26/2013 1:57:35 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: sean327

I translated his position as, “give my illegal friends the money.” I did not say that he is an illegal. But he is one of many liberal progressives who argue that we should give unlimited amnesty and free medical care to illegals.

Or, to mention another example, give in-state tuition rates to illegals from other countries, but not to American citizens from other states.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 1:58:50 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yet again.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 2:02:21 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Cicero

This is literally a thank you Baby Boomers for voting for me, now drop dead.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 2:21:20 PM PST by tbw2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Matthew Yglesias huh? Somebody needs to tell that boy. Running around talking about who he thinks needs to just die, is a good way to get his own lamp blowed out.
People are sometimes funny like that.

And i know it’s a shock, but some people over 80 are happy thay are alive.

This is gonna end in a war being forced upon us as the only alternative to death. They are determined to attack us on all fronts, and even discuss our death. They are sure we will knuckle under,, i don’t think we will.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 2:33:24 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any member of a “ Death Panel” that decides any member of my family is to be “eliminated” had better be prepared to join them!


27 posted on 01/26/2013 2:33:46 PM PST by 21st Century Crusader (August 26, 1191)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDheXEIxWas

The future of doctors and deciders


28 posted on 01/26/2013 2:35:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: jsanders2001

Can’t wait for the idiot liberals to fall victim to their own carefully laid plans.

Old rich liberals are exempt, but once they achieve their goals the old poor liberals are no longer needed.


29 posted on 01/26/2013 2:39:01 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: Drango
Seriously? Who cares what the nut jobs over there say/think/post?

Unfortunately the vast majority of "blue staters" do.
Salon is one of the left's most influential thought leaders.

30 posted on 01/26/2013 2:51:00 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: Cicero

Implement it you fascists and we old people will be coming for you...you won’t survive it.

FUBO & FAD


31 posted on 01/26/2013 2:53:15 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: y6162

I read somewhere that a country can be morally judged simply by the way it treats it’s very young and very old. Let’s see we murder millions of babies in the womb, and soon we will be like Britian who had a doctor report that they encourage the death of at least 130,000 elderly per year. I guess those who are calling for the death panels now don’t ever think that they will ever be old.


32 posted on 01/26/2013 3:21:58 PM PST by kagnew (u)
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To: y6162

I read somewhere that a country can be morally judged simply by the way it treats it’s very young and very old. Let’s see we murder millions of babies in the womb, and soon we will be like Britian who had a doctor report that they encourage the death of at least 130,000 elderly per year. I guess those who are calling for the death panels now don’t ever think that they will ever be old.


33 posted on 01/26/2013 3:22:12 PM PST by kagnew (u)
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To: patriotsblood
Ok, let’s start with the senile b@stards in Congress.

They seem to think that when all hell breaks loose, they will remain unscathed, when in fact, they'll be first.
34 posted on 01/26/2013 3:36:22 PM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: y6162

Good that he got it now because in a few years, he might not have that option.

I cringe at our future.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 3:48:53 PM PST by diamond6 (Need scientific proof of God? Check out: http://www.magisreasonfaith.org/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course. It was obvious from the start. I predicted they would let the old people die, refuse treatment to men with prostate cancer, and use the money instead for sex-”change” operations, AIDS treatments, and abortion.


36 posted on 01/26/2013 4:13:19 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


37 posted on 01/26/2013 6:05:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Sacajaweau

This is where your old people monies go....not to “care”...but to milk the system.
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I see this same abuse with my parents-in-law who are both in their 80s. Their doctors have recommended every test imaginable for them. Finally, my father-in-law said, “no more”. They were driving an hour one-way for most appointments, depleting their minimal resources and tiring them out further...


38 posted on 01/27/2013 12:32:23 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: lyby

One of my great aunts was in an auto accident (not her fault incidentally, she was a passenger) that broke her hip and pelvis. She was 82 at the time. Got both completely reworked and lived, independently, until she was 97. Gardened in her own backyard and grew veggies for all her neighbors, cooked meals for ‘shut ins’ in her church that a neighbor delivered. Crocheted my kids baby blankets. Should we have just let her die with the pain pills at 82?

My own grandfather had kidney failure at 78. Six months of dialysis and his kidneys started working again. He lived, independently, until he was 90. He also gardened extensively, split his own firewood and led bible study classes. Should we have just terminated him at 78 instead?


39 posted on 01/27/2013 12:38:51 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Not at all! I do not want them to die... The doctors put them through all these tests, though, and then tell them nothing can be done as the health conditions of their bodies could not withstand the surgeries... Just makes no sense to me, and I applaud my father-in-law for standing up to them.


40 posted on 01/27/2013 1:02:14 PM PST by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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