Posted on 11/06/2012 8:42:40 AM PST by Seizethecarp
To find out more about Obama’s time in Indonesia, TheBlaze tracked down Father Bart Janssen. He’s the elderly founder of Santo Fransiskus Assisis who we found in a monastery in Den Bosch, The Netherlands. We asked him, through a Dutch translator, what he remembers of the young Barack Obama.
Janssen doesn’t remember who registered Obama, but he recalls that Obama’s mother didn’t speak Indonesian at the time, so he thinks that both the stepfather and the mother would have been there together to register their son. He also doesn’t think the details in Obama’s registration document should be considered official declarations of his faith or citizenship because it wasn’t a government form and people played loose with such facts at the time. For example, it was typical to register as Indonesian and Islamic just because you were living there, so the religion indicated may just be what his father put down because it was the normal thing to do.
An exit after one term from the White House could act as a catalyst for more information more quickly. An Obama win, on the other hand, would likely keep any information – at least from the president himself — sealed for at least four more years.
Voters on Tuesday, then, may be deciding more than just who the next president is – they could help decide how much more we know about the one we have now.
(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...
OK, that was a little harsh. I do not believe she was a “slut.” Not at all. Stanley Ann displayed a serial preference for foreign men of color. Maybe there was a Filipino in the mix! McKeon said “in the Philippines” not a Filipina wife.
Of course they knew...but after February 1965, the person taking care of things, would have been Percy Sutton. Who-ever she was is sitting one empty seat away from him at the funeral...I will only post a link, the image might be copyright:
She’s the only woman a few rows back wearing dark glasses.
You are more correct and accurate. I should never have let my guard down and used the word ‘prefer’.
Saturday Night Fever!
This picture was published in the Maraniss book.
That is Ruth Baker Obama, out on the town in Nairobi taken either in the fall of 1964 either shortly before or after they were “married” or in the winter or spring of 1965 before she got pregnant with Mark mid-year, IIRC.
Maraniss says they partied hard all the time...at the same time that the Mal-Val narrative has Ruth baby-sitting the “real BHO II,” the future Roman Obama.
Does that woman look like she is doing a lot of baby-sitting?
Maraniss records Ruth as telling him that she had no interest in children and was horrified when she got pregnant. But that is all in the Mal-Val thread.
“THE PROTECTION OF THE FOREIGN BORN”
I don’t know why you go on about this.
While that is very interesting in terms of commie infiltration history, note that FMD was protecting the publicly known on the record to be foreign born individuals from deportation for being commies, NOT the secretly likely foreign born, such as Barry!
Whether born secretly in Kenya (as I suspect) or wherever you believe Sarruf to have popped him out, Barry doesn’t seem to qualify for attention from FMD’s organization.
OK, she was an amateur anthropologist when she went for exotic, foreign, communist BHO, as documented by the INS FIOA docs, and then when on to become a professional one.
BTW, I note that at U of WA in Spring 1962, she studied Chinese Civilization, yet another Asian culture.
As I can very well imagine; she had previously given an interview to one of the authors of a book, it may have been Janny Scott, in which she described how the house she lived in with the kenyan was filled with his relatives and their children. She said there were so many, sometimes she didn't know their names when she passed them in the corridor in the morning. It seems they came and went like ferals. Even Kezia sent her brood to be looked after by Ruth and her husband. What's one more? It was Malik who said he remembers playing with Barack when they were boys. Just where might that have been? It had to be either at Ruth's or in the village.
And are you trying to tell me that I cannot post comments here, or that I cannot write the same information more than once? It won't do you any good you know, I'm sick of being bullied. I don't plan to stop until I have finished.
Serial foreign men? Utter nonsense.
It’s fairly obvious she married an Indonesian. There is no other evidence she married anyone else, foreign or not. And no evidence of any slutdom.
You live in your mind and it’s obviously an ugly dark place.
Your comments are worse than worthless, they apparently have the express purpose of deflecting from legitimate and useful research. I used to think that your motive was just that you think you have a Great Brain and therefore cling to whatever you think just because You thought it. But now it seems you have darker motives. Known only to you.
I don’t think your motive is to help find the truth.
And you want me to believe that if forged documents were required that would prevent foreign born individuals from being deported, that Frank wouldn't see to it? That he couldn't rustle up some dependants, a wife if needed, and maybe lodge some opportune newspaper announcements? I doubt they were being threatened with deportation for being communist, they were being threatened FOR BEING FOREIGN BORN. Illegals, in other words. But give them a wife and baby and Bob's your Uncle. How about a marriage? No biggie. You can always get a divorce later. How naive are you?
You totally under-estimate Frank's TRUE VALUE.
Hmm, my eyes can’t see very well, I”ll try the magnifier...
It worked! I saw a white woman with dark glasses, an empty seat, and then a man sitting by the aisle, but he appeared white; or at most, mulatto.
Interesting that someone would wear dark glasses in side, seems to indicate she wanted to remain more or less anonymous.
Bravo!
“And you want me to believe that if forged documents were required that would prevent foreign born individuals from being deported, that Frank wouldn’t see to it? That he couldn’t rustle up some dependants, a wife if needed, and maybe lodge some opportune newspaper announcements?”
FMD was up to his eyeballs in FBI surveillance and was hauled before the House Un-American Activities Committee in the early 1950’s, IIRC. I don’t think he would dare to undertake that kind of felony activity and put his debauched life that he enjoyed so much at risk!
“Even Kezia sent her brood to be looked after by Ruth and her husband.”
There were only two at that time. Auma was in boarding school the whole time, IIRC. So only one son, Malik, was in the home, IIRC.
I believe that Maraniss said that he was the only author that got any significant interview time with Ruth and she did not give him the description that you recount of their home being overrun, from what I remember reading that section of the book before I returned it.
The way Ruth described it, the first year it was party hearty, dancing and drinking almost every night.
WHAT RISK? Do you think he left a signature, or left a confession behind; do you think he wrote on the bottom of a false document, I, FRANK MARSHALL DAVIS CREATED THIS FORGERY? He wasn't a lawyer representing a client in court. What do you think his function was? To write good behaviour reports? Don't make me laugh.
Funny, you can attribute to him the seduction of a teenage daughter of a man who was supposed to be his friend, but you can't fathom what his true function was.
I know what I read, she said the house was filled with people and children coming and going, and often she didn’t know their names. If I find it again I will post it. There have been at least three books written that I am aware of.
I’m getting a clear message from you, if I said the sky was blue, you would say purple.
And you deliberately misdirect, I wrote Kezia’s brood, I didn’t say how many. If Ruth didn’t know who she was passing in the hallway, you’re asking too much of me. Two, four or six, even ‘granny’ Sarah didn’t know who Kezia’s children belonged to.
You know what? It’s becoming very obvious you bring nothing of note to the discussion, it’s just criticism all the way, from start to finish, isn’t it? Why don’t you surprise us and tell us something new? Show us a documents or an image, or even provide a link, like most freepers do.
You aren’t communicating, what you are doing is telling us how superior and clever you are.
I’m simply not buying it. This isn’t The World According To Seizethecarp.
"...he had taken his first cousin Ezra under his wing. Ezra was a clever and amusing boy whose father, one of Hussein Onyango's brothers, was unable to pay for this son's schooling. So Ezra moved into the squat servants quarters in 1967 and remained there for four years while Obama paid for his education. He was not alone. When Wilson Obama, another cousin showed up in similar need, Obama agreed to pay for his education and offered him a place to stay for close to two years. Amir Otieno Orinda, Obama's half-brother with whom he shared the same mother, was in and out of the house as well. Zeituni Onyango, Obama's helf-sister, stayed at the house for several weeks in the late 60's and would return later to help take care of Malik and Auma. As those and others came and went from the busy household, Ruth sometimes found herself passing people in the hall-way, who, she says, I hadn't the slightest idea who they were...
The Other Barack:
The Bold and Reckless Life of President Obama's Father By Sally Jacobs
The Mal-Val narrative posits that a half-Filipino child of BHO Sr who was originally named BHO II and pictured as “the dark boy” in the picture actually of Mark and David (having zero Asian features)...was brought to Kenya in August 1964 by BHO Sr. to be raised by party-girl Ruth Baker as though he was her own...on top of Kezia’s children.
The additional family members pile into the home, or at least the servant quarters beginning in 1967, three years later at the same time that Maraniss reports that baby David was born.
The Mal-Val narrative demands belief that on top of all of the BHO family members in the home reported by Jacobs and Maraniss, there is also the “real” BHO II (who supposedly grew up to be very dark, very African, not a trace Asian/Filipina Roman Obama of Ghana!). And yet, neither Maraniss nor Jabobs make any mention of any such boy in the Obama home. They affirm Mark and David born in 1965 and 1967, IIRC.
This "real BHO II" who grows up to be Roman Obama in the Mal-Val narrative is supposedly the baby reported in the HI newspapers as being born to a wife of BHO Sr. living at the same address as Stanley Ann's parents...at the same time that the INS FIOA docs report that Stanley Ann is living there pregnant with another baby of BHO Sr. What an amazing coincidence that would be, if true (not). There isn't a trace of evidence of a marriage or even a relationship of BHO Sr. to a Filipina, not a trace of evidence of a birth in HI or anywhere of a baby parented by these two, no trace of any baby “real BHO II” first going to Seattle to be babysat by Mary Toutonghi and then spirited out of the US to Kenya in 1964, no evidence of this baby being raised in Kenya, no evidence he became Roman Obama in Moscow and Ghana. Isn't it time to admit that the Mal-Val narrative is a huge hoax and trolling episode designed to real in only the most gullible credulous FReepers...and succeeding?
But it has the best dramatic narrative. It's like a trashy airplane novel. Exotic locations, colorful characters, a vast conspiracy, what more could you want?
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