Kan. GOP Sec. of State Moving on Obama Birther Nov. Ballot Challenge

Afro ^ | September 14, 2012 | Staff

[2ndDivisionVet]

Less than two months before Election Day, a group of Kansas Republicans, led by a voter ID law advocate, is moving on a withdrawn challenge which may result in President Obama being removed from the ballot.

Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who has embraced forcing voters to produce ID at the polls, said Sept. 13 that he will preside over a Kansas Board of Objections Sept. 17 meeting where a Manhattan, Kans. veterinary professor Joe Montgomery, questioned Obama’s birthplace and the citizenship of his father.

Kobach said that the board is obligated to do a thorough review of the questions raised by Montgomery about Obama’s birth certificate and not make “a snap decision."

However, Montgomery on Sept 14 withdrew his objections, stating that the Kansas roots of Obama’s mother and grandparents, apparently in his opinion, satisfies the U.S. Constitution’s “natural-born citizen” requirement for the presidency,.

The president's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and maternal grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, were Kansas natives.

The complaint withdrawal came after Kobach made requests to officials in Hawaii, Arizona and Mississippi for copies of the president’s birth records. The birth certificate controversy has been settled in those states and Obama is on those states’ ballots.

In spite of the withdrawal, Kobach said he nevertheless doesn’t believe the matter is dead. "I don't think it's a frivolous objection,” according to Kobach, an unofficial advisor to GOP presidential challenger Mitt Romney’s campaign. "I do think the factual record could be supplemented."

The objections board includes Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, both Republicans. Current polls indicate that in Kansas, Romney is the current favored candidate at this point in the presidential race.

[2ndDivisionVet]

If even one state does this, the whole house of cards will start to tumble, IMO.

[Kansas58]

The complaint has been withdrawn by the Kansas citizen who brought it up.

[Red Steel]

Kobach said that the board is obligated to do a thorough review of the questions raised by Montgomery about Obama’s birth certificate and not make “a snap decision."

A "thorough review" would be to get Hawaii to send you a certified 'true and accurate' record along with it amendments, and truthfully vet Obama on the intent and meaning of the natural born citizen clause. Anything else is political game playing.

[mazda77]

Looks like in this case it is a matter of be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. You just can’t make the space shuttle back up and land on the launch pad.

[nickcarraway]

vet Obama on the intent and meaning of the natural born citizen

Did Obama wrote the Constitution?

[American in Israel]

"I do think the factual record could be supplemented."

The FACT that it has not be proven, THREE years into his Presidency is an open and shut case for Treason in high places. This country is worse than a Bannana Republic for credibility in Leadership, Law and Justice.

[Red Steel]

No nick, I’ll rephrase for you. The Founding Fathers of the US Constitution would not consider Obama a natural born citizen.

[Kansas58]

If Obama was born on US soil, he is a Natural Born Citizen.

Period.

There is absolutely no living legal authority, no Judge, no Elected Official, no Elector, no Immigration Attorney, no Member of Congress, and no Governor who disagrees with me on this point.

The Citizenship of the parents ONLY matters if the birth does not take place on American Soil.

This is the law.

PERIOD!

[Smokeyblue]

There is absolutely no living legal authority

So? The Founding Fathers agree with us.

PERIOD.

Traitor John Roberts is living and he threw the Founding Fathers under the bus. Traitor Roberts is still WRONG.

[Fester Chugabrew]

There seem to be mixed messages on this. My understanding is that a natural born citizen of the United States must have both a father and a mother who are naturalized citizens, thus making Obama ineligible. But . . . I am not so sure my understanding is in accord with legal reality.

Red Badger and I had a brief back and forth on this some weeks ago. Maybe he could elaborate or comment.

[MileHi]

PERIOD!

BS! Your shouted opinion means squat.

PERIOD!

[Kansas58]

No, the Founders did NOT agree with you.

It is arrogant for you to claim otherwise.

You do not know what you are talking about.

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the moment of Birth, and NOTHING ELSE!

There are only two forms of Citizenship in the United States:

Natural Born

Naturalized

This is the law.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Are you saying Sheriff Arpaio is not a legal authority?

[Smokeyblue]

Nope. It's not.

PERIOD.

Although I'm sure Traitor Roberts will agree with you since he doesn't give a crap about the Constitution.

[TroutFishingInAmerica]

Herbert Hoover’s mother was born in Canada, although she may have been naturalized by the time of his birth. The previous poster is correct, however, that anyone born on American soil is an American, regardless of parentage. Even a child born outside the United States with an American parent is an American, as was the case with George Romney and John McCain.

[Kansas58]

Land Mark Legal Foundation does not agree with you.

The Heritage Foundation does not agree with you.

Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ do not agree with you.

This STUPID theory is promoted by nut case, tin-foil-hat goobers who do not understand the law or legal opinions.

NOBODY is on your side, nobody at all.

This is a stupid fight and it makes conservatives look stupid.

Obama wants this fight, as he can WIN this fight!

[Kansas58]

You are mixing arguments.
Try to keep up.
The good Sheriff is talking about documents and he has many valid points.

I am stating, honestly and factually, that if Obama was born on U.S. Soil, he IS a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!

[Kansas58]

I will qualify your statement to say that I agree, based on the changing rules in force during our history.

The AGE of the parents, and their residence in the years prior to the birth, and years of residence here, does make a difference and the laws have changed several times.

Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at the Moment of Birth.

The laws for NBC on foreign soil can and have been changed, by Congress, several times.

[Red Steel]

There is absolutely no living legal authority, no Judge, no Elected Official, no Elector, no Immigration Attorney, no Member of Congress, and no Governor who disagrees with me on this point.

No "living" huh? Past US governments that of legal authority do disagree with you.

If Obama was born on US soil, he is a Natural Born Citizen. Period.

The Citizenship of the parents ONLY matters if the birth does not take place on American Soil.

This is the law.

PERIOD!

BS simpleton.

Not according to past US governments who were not into revisionist history, and who understood natural born and to the meaning and usage of the phrase "The Subject of the Jurisdiction Thereof" written in the 14th Amendment:

1874, The House Committee for Foreign Relations on the 14th Amendment.

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You think you can understand what should read above? I have have my doubt.

[Blogatron]

Obongo won’t get Kansas’ electoral votes anyway.