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The Bishops Were Wrong On The Ryan Budget
National Catholic Register ^ | 8/11/2012 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:00 AM PDT by marcbold

In the wake of the selection of Paul Ryan as the VP nominee, you will be hearing a lot about how Ryan is a bad Catholic because the Bishops criticized the Ryan budget plan.

Let me cut to the chase, the USCCB was wrong.

The text of the letter issued by the Bishops gets the basics wrong and completely ignores the immorality of continued debt. They say...

On behalf of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, I write to urge you to resist for moral and human reasons unacceptable cuts to hunger and nutrition programs. The committee has been instructed to reduce agricultural programs by an additional $33.2 billion. In allocating these reductions, the committee should protect essential programs that serve poor and hungry people over subsidies that assist large and relatively well-off agricultural enterprises. Cuts to nutrition programs such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) will hurt hungry children, poor families, vulnerable seniors and workers who cannot find employment. These cuts are unjustified and wrong. If cuts are necessary, the committee should first look towards reducing and targeting commodity and subsidy programs that disproportionately go to large growers and agribusiness

Except those draconian cuts they fear are not cuts at all, but reductions in growth from the projected baseline budgeting planned growth. To suggest that these are real cuts is disingenuous politcal speak beneath the dignity of the conference.

Further, this letter does not address the real problems facing America, rather the Bishops sit on their high horses while simultaneously sticking their heads in the sand.

This massive accumulating debt has real consequences, and those...

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I think my brother has important piece on the Bishop's criticism of Ryan.
1 posted on 08/11/2012 5:48:13 AM PDT by marcbold
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“Except those draconian cuts they fear are not cuts at all, but reductions in growth from the projected baseline budgeting planned growth”
If one has to say this then one has already lost. Remember the ‘90’s, saying that a party is going to starve someone is a powerful drug.
2 posted on 08/11/2012 5:52:35 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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3 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:22 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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4 posted on 08/11/2012 5:56:39 AM PDT by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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Ryan and the USCCB ping

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5 posted on 08/11/2012 5:57:44 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (ABO)
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To: marcbold

Perfect!

The BUMPs, and lack of commentary, demonstrate the accuracy of this article.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 6:00:05 AM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: marcbold
So i guess it can be said that they're against the Romney ticket, even though of course they're apolitical [wretching].

They're wrong about Obama and Obamacare, too, except for the voice in the wilderness of Sioux City.

all you Dolan-worshippers need to get your heads around the fact that there are two churches: one real, one fake. Guess which one dwells with the movers and shakers in the Halls of Power?

7 posted on 08/11/2012 6:01:21 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: marcbold

They are ALWAYS wrong unless it’s about the religion inself. MORE FOOD PROGRAMS is NOT the answer!! TEACHING PEOPLE to FISH is 100% better than just giving them handouts.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 6:03:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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I’m a Catholic by choice, and what the bishops have taught me is this: if they’re against it - and I mean, of course, excluding those things that they cant be against without being obvious heretics — then it’s probably worth looking at. And the reverse holds.


9 posted on 08/11/2012 6:08:58 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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I am hearing that Obama has been invited to speak at the Al Smith Dinner, a Catholic gala sponsored dinner hosted by the archdiocese of New York.

In 1996 Cardinal John O'Connor did not invite then President Clinton to this event because of his stance on abortion.

But the archdiocese has extended an invitation to Obama? I love Cardinal Dolan, but cannot for the life of me think of why this is being allowed.

10 posted on 08/11/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Amen and WELCOME HOME!!


11 posted on 08/11/2012 6:16:17 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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But the archdiocese has extended an invitation to Obama? I love Cardinal Dolan, but cannot for the life of me think of why this is being allowed.

oh for the love of gawd wake up. Archbishop Dolan is no Cardinal OConnor.

12 posted on 08/11/2012 6:21:26 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: Ann Archy

Thank you. For once it doesnt sound like a slogan.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 6:23:39 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (At what point does an escalated effort to remove this traitor commence, and what form does it take?)
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To: marcbold

The bishops, particularly the committee that writes on economics, etc. (I think it’s “Peace and Justice” or something similarly leftwing), are absolute fools when they stray away from things relating to religion. They’re very often fools on the latter topic, too, or have been until recently.

There is NO “Catholic” economic or political system and NONE that is intrinsically non-Catholic, as long as the liberty of the individual is respected. The latter would obviously eliminate things like Marxism, even though Marxism is the one the bishops love best, or at any rate, the one beloved of the elderly left-wing bishops. They look like idiots by trying to pronounce on economics.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 6:28:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: Northern Yankee

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Hi,

I wanted to draw your attention to this important petition that I recently signed:

“Cardinal Dolan & the Archdiocese of New York : Disinvite President Obama from the Al Smith fundraising dinner”
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I really think this is an important cause, and I’d like to encourage you to add your signature, too. It’s free and takes just a few seconds of your time.

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15 posted on 08/11/2012 6:41:45 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: Northern Yankee

The Bishops are trying to play at politics, when they should be sticking to religon/

Who am I to say that a Bishop is wrong, just a Catholic who goes to Church on Sunday, but you cannot call Obama an SOB for attacking the Church one minute and invite him to your Gala dinner the next.

Sending out mixed signals is killing the Church. I see it every Sunday when less and less people show up.


16 posted on 08/11/2012 6:44:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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Alas, too many of our bishops are still stuck on Social Gospel left over from the faux Vatican II mania. My reading of the Gospel leaves the government no responsibility to take care of anybody. The government isn’t going to hell and it isn’t going to Heaven. The Gospel is about saving individual souls and the form or actions of government are irrelevant. It is about an individual’s relationship to God in prosperity or in servitude. Oppressive governments or benevolent kings are merely the environment. Jesus never spoke about what any government should do and certainly said nothing about some people coercing other people to give to yet other people. That would derive from Pride, the feeling that one knows how earthly things should be and can legitimately force others to act according to one’s feelings.


17 posted on 08/11/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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Thanks marcbold.
18 posted on 08/11/2012 6:46:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marcbold
I forgive the Church for the (less than) 5% of the Priesthood involved in the sex abuse scandals.

The entire country, including the Church and every other institution, did not really understand that issue very well, until just recently. The Church has since learned its lessons. The mistakes were human mistakes, and the forgiveness of God and the Church, somehow, seemed to sway Church officials into thinking that individuals with predatory natures could, somehow, “change”.

However?

I am not willing to forgive the Catholic Church when it comes to the Church's advocacy of Socialism, as of late.

“Subsidiarity” is still sound Catholic Doctrine.

Many Popes have spoken forcefully against Socialism and Marxism.

However, today, the vast majority of American Priests can not be described as anything other than Socialists.

The Socialism of the Catholic Priesthood is, today, a much greater threat to Catholic Evangelism, and a much greater threat to the ability of the Church to continue to hold the respect, attendance and financial support of anyone with even a small amount of economic literacy.

The past can be forgiven.

A Church which sounds more and more like Hugo Chavez can not be forgiven.

Maybe Paul Ryan can save our Church, as well as our Country?

19 posted on 08/11/2012 6:52:56 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Mach9
I already signed it.

Thank you!

20 posted on 08/11/2012 7:01:24 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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