Posted on 06/23/2012 7:52:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
150 years after the great divide in America, reality seems to be proving that the South was right on everything but slavery, lets look!
The Kennedy brothers, Donnie and Ron shook book stores across the land when their book The South Was Right boldly proclaimed a view which asserts that the original founders of America were right, and Lincoln and the progressives were wrong!
The Kennedy twins are intelligent, educated, successful southerners who focused their intellects on researching the politics and economics of the ante bellum era and found considerable evidence that the South was right. It's a terrific book available at Barnes and Nobles, and if you are an American who believes in God, the original founders of America and Declaration of Independence, then The South Was Right should be in your library.
Now, before we go further let's do what we have to do, condemn slavery as the sin of the past. It was wrong. It was wrong in the North, and wrong in the South. Taking a man's liberty is taking a gift from the Almighty Father and that is wrong. No point wasting a lot of space in debate, or discussion. So let's move on.
This article is not about the past, it is about today. It is about an America seemingly in cardiac arrest. It is about an America over regulated, over taxed, over governed. It is about present day fashions and trends crushing the spirit of liberty which made us America. America is headed in the wrong direction and the markets, and our economy, and our young know it. America needs a new direction, and that direction can be found in the South, in its past, and in its present.
The division in America started almost before the Constitution was dry. Justice Abel P. Upshur, of Virginia, wrote a treatise on the Southern interpretation of the Constitution. Within that work Upshur points to God as the author/creator of soveriegnty. Soveriegnty is handed from God to man. From man, soveriegnty is passed to the states. And it is the states who share a small portion of soveriegnty with the federeal government. The federal government is last, not first, and the Constitution is a leash to restrain the natural inclination of men in power to seek more power.
Let's start with the beginning. The South, Dixie, is also known as the Bible Belt. 150 years ago, in the Preamble to the Confederate Constitution, the southern founding fathers called on God for His protection and His guidance. God was invited to the "governing table." This was not something new in America, but it was one of the things the North was changing and the South wanted to keep. If you read Forged in Faith or The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States you will discover that Christ had been with America since before its conception. Christ and the church were with each of the colonies as they were discovered and settled. Christianity was at the heart of the laws, at the core of the spirit of the people who made the venture from Europe to America. Christ was about liberty, the rule of law, consent of the governed and majority rule. Sovereignty came from God. God is sovereign. From Him all authority flows.
Many of today's writers on this subject credit the Pilgrims and Massachusetts with using the Bible, and Higher Law to write the Mayflower Compact and plant the seeds for American democracy. The separate religious faiths of Christianity and the pulpit was critical to the foundation of Ameirca. The first cohesiveness of America, the first spirit of unity amongst the colonies came from a mutual belief in a Christian God. All believed that God had brought us to America, and that God was in charge.
The North is portrayed as the original Bible Belt. Yet something happened. The North has moved away from God. The South today, has not. Barack Obama, as President, has declared we are not a Christian nation. That may work in New York, or with the main stream media, but it don't set well if you live south of the Mason Dixon Line, or in the Heartland. America is Christian today. We do believe in the Bible. We do believe in Christ. Our morality, our sense of right and wrong, come from the Higher law. Everything that America can be stems from this starting point. Everything that man can be emanates from the understanding that God exists, that the Bible is His word.
This is not past. This is today. This is the South. Go in its towns. Go to its churches. Talk to people. Listen. The South is not conservative because it has less colleges or universities. The South is not conservative through some genetic fault. The South is conservative because the root of conservatism is a Christian God. It is a belief in something other than government. It is a belief in the partnership between God and man. The South is Right!
Since Eden man has wrestled with the questions of right and wrong. There's no need to. God outlined right and wrong. Like a loving parent He wrote a letter to mankind in the form of the Bible. It tells us right and wrong. No secrets. Nothing scientists have to discover. Nope. Like the basic laws of physics right and wrong do NOT change. Yet, so much of man's energy is wasted in the ebb tides of morality. Yet like gravity, or magnetism, right and wrong are consistent, not changed or altered by man.
The South is this place. It is a place where the anchor of God sets the table. While other parts of the nation, or people within the nation may chide the South for being the Bible Belt, we wear that description knowing Christ told us we should endure in living His word.
But the South is about much more then its bedrock faith.
The South is about American values. It is about federalism, state's rights and local control. It is about the people in the local area having the most to say about governing themselves. The South is about limiting federal government. The South is about limiting the benefits of working for the government! The best and brightest should not be in government. They should be in medicine, or inventing new technologies, or creating new business formations, or caring for the land and resources of a region.
The South is about capitalism. It is about competition. The right to work is a southern concept, and unions are seen as a socialist tool to organize workers. Unions have become their own political parties, their own sources of power. Unions do not represent their members. What American jobs did unions fight for? Unions are internationals, not American. They are not Christian, they are secular. Unions are myopic; they are manifestations of cumulative greed seeking power and advantage for a small set of people. And because the South rejected unionism, and wealthy investors poured their monies into the north and not the South, the South was spared the natural inflation which comes with unions.
The South is about understanding that wealth is not money. Wealth is in the land, in the family, and in the things we produce. Money is a tool, not a source of value.
The South is about pride in one's home town, and region. The South is about a regional identity and unity. It is about a way of thinking, a way of singing, and a way of enjoying life. What other region in America has a symbol equal to the Confederate battle flag?; a symbol internationally known and respected, a symbol in opposition to tyranny and oppression. And then there is the South's national anthem; Dixie.
The South offers an alternative American model, one that is needed in the modern world. The South is the antithesis to modern global hegemony and collectivism. The South is about nationalism, independence, autonomy, personal liberty, limited government. The South embraces God as the sole supreme authority. The South provides an alternative course, alternative direction, an alternative to human secularism and socialism. The South is right.
Fascist.
Fascist.
Amen. I'm in Red Hampshire (spit), and the locals always cop an attitude when I make reference about 'returning to America' in a few months...New England and the south/midwest...two COMPLETELY different countries.
The lib dems of today are the same as the scumbag radical republicans of the 1860s - leading this country into the abyss.
Dhimmicrats have always been dhimmicrats. Just like the southern fire-eaters that launched us into war in 1860.
“How many civilians died on Patton’s March through Germany?...The end result is that Sherman ended the war far sooner than it would have otherwise. That saved tens of thousands of lives on both sides.”
Bullshit. They didn’t do anything but plan a genocide.
They were intent on killing everything. At that point, they just wanted to make sure they could take everything and there would be nothing left for the south for decades. They were right, the f*ing fascists. Nice equivocations, though. The fact is, the south weren’t Nazis...they were Americans and that war was driven by greed for power, political agenda and money.... which they got ... to play out their progressive agenda and make the northeast the power center. How’s that working for us, Bud?
Patton? Sherman was no Patton. He was a homicidal maniac...read his letters. He wasn’t a warrior, he was a licensed mass murderer. And his grubby, drunken boss oversaw the demise during and after the war. Nice job there, too.
Yeah, the north won alright. Like a rapist wins when they drag someone much smaller and unarmed into a corner and screw them and beat them and leave them for dead.
“the South was right on everything but slavery”
This constant association with the South and slavery pisses me off. The North had slavery, too, and Lincoln did not free the slaves, the 13th Amendment did.
“End of discussion. Without slavery, there would have never been a Civil War. “
BS. You don’t know much about history if you think that.
So, what you are saying is that slavery WAS OK, as long as limited to Southerners who wanted to opt out of the Union.
Can’t have it both ways.
The circumstance for his supposed detachment made his declaration of disinterest ridiculous.
The amendment was only proposed to reassure the South that the Federal Government had no intention of abolishing slavery.
And so it was in perfect agreement with Lincoln's pledge. To add apologetic to denial is to poison the one and waste the other. Please explain why a reason someone might support the amendment helps prove that someone didn't.
In fact, there was no possible way the Federal Government could have abolished it before secession. Congress would have never given the necessary 2/3 majority of both houses, and with 15 out of 37 being slave states, there was no chance of gaining the necessary 3/4 of state ratification necessary to ratify such an admendment to the constitution.
All the above is irrelevant to the issue of whether Lincoln supported the language.
Your drivel about Lincoln supporting Corwin is a standard Lost Cause tactic to confuse those who do not know history or are totally ignorant of the constitutional process.
The constitutional process is irrelevant to the issue of whether Lincoln supported the language. You continue to do what you did with arderkrag in #45. Continual insults, derision, and accusations of ignorance are not going to win any arguments worth winning.
Lincoln did not come into office promising to end slavery. His only pledge was to end the expansion of slavery to the territories.
And so his pledge was in perfect agreement with the language of the amendment.
That, and that alone is what the Confederates went to war over.
Read about the Corwin Amendment here.
Yeah, the letter writing campaign in which he told every one pertinent to the amendment process about this amendment he didn't really care about and that he didn't care about it. He was even more weirdly adamant about not really caring about it in his first inaugural, because, you know, the inaugural address of a president in a time of national crisis is the perfect occasion to bring up the matter of an amendment to permanently alter the Constitution and perhaps prevent the ruination of the whole country when one doesn't care about it so much that it becomes necessary to point out how much one doesn't care. It goes further than that; Lincoln actually claimed to not even know the language of the proposal - by the time he gave the speech!.
I think he was lying.
Learn the facts and please stop spreading misinformation.
Your feelings about facts are not, themselves, facts.
What’s the matter Reb? Don’t you want to be the new Confederate? Think of it. You’ll be at the fore front of a new (old) movement. ‘’The New Confederate States of America’’ and you can be it’s president. Think of the celebrity status that goes with it! You’ll do all the talks shows and stuff. Heck, you might even get on Fox News. The gals go big time for edgy, revolutionary types you know. Who knows, you might finally get yourself a girlfriend.
Kind of funny how a conservative state like Virgina was so conservative that they only allowed a kook and a RINO on the primary ballot this year.
You want to talk RINOS? My state NJ has a big fat-ass Lou Costello look-a-like RINO by the name of Chris Christie.
Sorry, but the ‘myths’ I have been taught were from letters sent among family who happened to have actually been there at the time.
I think I’ll stick with my ancestors.
LOL! A rino of a RINO.
You’ll have to give me a few days to find the book, I’ve been painting and everything is scattered to he** and gone here.
I’d rather have just painted around the furniture, but you know how some people can be...
I’ll never understand why all those dirt poor Southern enlisted men who didn’t own slaves fought like hell for the South. And that includes my g-g-grandfather who was wounded twice, went home to heal, then went back and fought some more. He never owned a slave.
I always found it interesting that the slaves weren’t freed until long after the war started. Yet it’s always said slavery is why the war was fought.
That's interesting. Why don't you scan them and post them for us to read?
That's because you are ignorant of history. It can be cured, if you care to study just a little bit.
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