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1 posted on 05/31/2012 11:40:53 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell
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To: Peter ODonnell

If I were in a swing state, I would probably hold my nose and vote for Romney. Obama must be defeated by any means.

But I’m in California, so it’s not something I have to worry about. I have the luxury of not having to vote for the schmuck.

If I get the sense that Romney could carry CA, perhaps I will then toss him my support just to see Obama humiliated, but the chances of that happening are very slim.

As for Ron Paul, some things I like, some things I don’t. He’s not presidential material in my book.

I don’t expect you will find many favorable opinions on either Paul or Romney here on FR.


2 posted on 05/31/2012 11:57:26 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Not enthused about Romney. I am pragmatic enough to pull the lever for Romney in November. ABO. This November will not be the time to squander my vote on some third party candidate as a form of Protest.


4 posted on 06/01/2012 12:27:24 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Peter ODonnell

Willard and Zero are 100% unacceptable to serve. Barring the former being dumped at the GOP Convention for a Conservative who possesses character, principles, morality and integrity, for which he has none of, I will vote (Virgil) Goode over the two evils.

Basically, for those Conservatives, you must simply vote your conscience. Ask if replacing one abomination for another who could inflict more damage to the GOP as a vehicle for Conservatism for the long run is truly worth it. A Pyrrhic victory.


6 posted on 06/01/2012 12:34:40 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Peter ODonnell

BTW,
I don’t think Romney hates America. I was reading about Romney’s father..

I didn’t really know that much about him..thought he was a wealthy person all his life..I was surprised to find how many jobs he had, starting out as a carpenter, and basically taking different jobs, and moving to different places in an effort to support his family, and give them a better life.

In defense of my ignorance of George Romney, it’s not something that I was that familiar with..I guess I am Texascentric.


7 posted on 06/01/2012 12:51:57 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: Peter ODonnell
  I think Ron Paul would make a great president. I've been aware of his economic philosophy since the early 90s and his open opposition to the income tax has always been refreshing. His recent debate with Paul Krugman revealed Krugman to be a complete idiot so I think RP would do very well in a debate with Obama.

  There's also a strong Liberty movement behind Paul and I support his libertarian positions as well.
8 posted on 06/01/2012 12:57:03 AM PDT by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

If Paul runs as an independent, he will be handing the election to Obama. It is time for the Ron Paul crowd to accept reality that this man will never be president, regardless of how well-liked he may be among Libertarians. He simply does not have enough support. If he runs, then he is demonstrating nothing but selfishness, as he will hand the election to Obama just to make a point.


15 posted on 06/01/2012 2:57:24 AM PDT by dbeall
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To: Peter ODonnell

Millions will NOT vote for Bishop Romney, the author
of RomneyCARE, but will in its stead write in the
name: Gov. Palin.


16 posted on 06/01/2012 2:58:24 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I have watched Ron Paul throughout all the debates. No sale.

Virgil Goode is too late, to get a solid foothold, since he was not mentioned by anyone on this forum, until AFTER the debates. I would choose Herman Cain, but he is not on the ballot.

The idea is to remove Obama from office, through the election process, in November. Period.

All these ‘other guys’ might be really good, in their own rights, yet since it is either Romney and Freedom, or Obama and Communism, I did NOT serve in the U.S. military, to hand my country over to my Cold War enemy!


18 posted on 06/01/2012 3:21:08 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Peter ODonnell
You have to decide for yourself if NOT voting GOP is in the best interest of the country, rather than you personally.

We have a candidate, while not the one we hoped for, is by far, better than the POTUS we have.

Should Oblunder retain the WH and some portion of Congress, this nation as we know it will cease to exist. Either by fiat or Executive Order, Oblunder will complete the destruction of the USA.

That's what you have to choose.

Choose wisely.

19 posted on 06/01/2012 3:28:06 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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Because this is not my first rodeo and have lived thru JFK, Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Clinton and all in between, I will vote Romney. Will not argue the semantics anymore. I am a conservative and will not allow BO to continue to
take this country down. I have my principals as well and watching this destruction is killing me on a daily basis. Any speed bump that we can throw is
better than this IMHO. I live in a swing state. Enough said.


20 posted on 06/01/2012 3:50:43 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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If forced to choose between 4 years of socialism (romney) or 4 years of isolationism (paul) I can deal with the isolationism, but never the socialism.


22 posted on 06/01/2012 4:07:09 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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http://www.tomhoefling.com/

http://www.selfgovernment.us/about.html


25 posted on 06/01/2012 5:35:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Party like it's 1860.- America's Party - www.SelfGovernment.US)
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Do you plan to support Mitt Romney, hold out for a Ron Paul candidacy, or is there a third alternative that attracts you?

I plan on voting for the candidate with the highest odds of unseating obama. Currently, that appears to be the GOP candidate (Romney, barring a miracle at the convention).

But, like I said: I'll vote for the candidate with the highest odds of unseating obama. Give me an alternative with higher odds than Romney and I'll vote for that alternative.

"Lead", "follow" or "get out of the way". Pick one.

27 posted on 06/01/2012 6:57:46 AM PDT by jaydee770
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The answer depends on whether you just want to make a statement or you want to defeat Obama. To me, the time for statement making is during the primaries.


29 posted on 06/01/2012 7:07:17 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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I refuse to cast my vote, my only vote, for an unacceptable candidate. I recognize that some folks are so paralyzed by fear that they can be herded into the Romney corral constructed by Karl Rove. I want no part of Romney or all that he represents.

Reject Obama. Reject Romney. Reject evil.

Fear not. Trust God.


30 posted on 06/01/2012 7:10:56 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Won’t be voting for that lying, left-wing, Progressive Liberal Mitt Romney under any set of circumstances.

I’ll either write in Sarah Palin or vote for an actual conservative that is running like Virgil Goode.


32 posted on 06/01/2012 9:29:05 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Peter ODonnell; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; LS; Clintonfatigued; ...

Ron Paul is not going to run, that’s 100%. The reason, his son is a Republican Senator who he wants to have a future. In fact the hope of the Paul movement is being put into Rand Paul. He showed the ability to get regular conservative votes in his 2010 Senate primary. He’s a longshot VP for Romney and a possible 2016 (his Senate seat is up that year) candidate if Romney loses or 2020 candidate if he wins.

Your post seems to suggest you believe Paul could win a three-way race which is impossible, he couldn’t win a 2 way race. If he were the GOP nominee Obama would hand him his a$$ over the racist stuff from the Paul newsletters in the early 90’s (he didn’t write them but it doesn’t matter, his name is on it) and more his out of the mainstream views like legalizing all drugs so we can have more wacked out people trying to eat homeless guys faces.

A recent poll showed Ron Paul taking as much from Obama as from Romney so it wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing if it happened but it’s not gonna as I said. If you aren’t aware most Freepers have as much regard for Paul as they do Romney, which is to say they hate his guts. Yet for most people here backed his son Rand in the Senate primary anyway.

Most Freepers who can’t bring themselves to support Romney are backing Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party, who’s vote comes entirely out of Romney’s hide plus people that would otherwise stay home of course. Goode is obviously more conservative than Romney but I don’t care for him either myself. Former pawn of the tobacco industry, former democrat who enabled democrat control of the VA Senate back in the day and endorsed Doug Wilder around the time we think Romney was backing Dukakis. And his response to the 2010 landslide was to abandon the party instead of staying and trying to improve it. That kind of ‘tude makes him part of the problem, as a Canadian you know what happens when the right divides into 2 parties. If conservatives were united and had someone better than the flawed Rick Santorum we wouldn’t be having this conversion cause Romney’s a** would have been grass in the primaries.

One guy here is an advocate of the smaller “America’s Party” which will get on few if any ballots and receive an infinitesimal number of votes. But if I was gonna “waste” a vote it would be for their guy over Goode.

Paulbots will be voting for the Libertarian Gary Johnson former GOP Governor of New Mexico, who is similar to Paul except he’s more socially liberal and is not suffering from age related dementia. Since he’s pro-abortion, pro-gay, pro-drugs, and pro-illegals few (none that I know of) are on his bandwagon around here even though he’d be swell on the economy and government regulation. Johnson will hopefully take votes from Obama too (Potheads + ANTI-WAR) but may guarantee Barack wins New Mexico (which Romney doesn’t need and will probably gobama anyway).

Many people are saying they’d vote Romney in a swing state but they live in democrat state Obama can’t lose or a safe Republican state so they won’t bother.

That’s getting into philosophical territory I’d rather not bother with, voting your conscience for a third party being supposedly morally better but mathematically the same thing as not voting at all or writing in “Dick Nixon” as I did once for an unopposed city office. 1 individual vote is extremely unlikely to make the difference in ANY race in any state but if the millions of people who don’t vote in part because of that reason did it would have a huge effect.

I’m keeping it simple. I want Osama to lose because I can’t stand to see him anymore or hear his snooty voice. The only place I want to see his face in the future is on a whack-a-mole game. I want his slobbering idiot supporters to suffer the dejection they deserve and be reminded that WE the decent sensible people are the majority. I want to ensure that he, the worst President ever, isn’t validated historically by being reelected. And if 1 Conservative Supreme Court Justice dies in the next 4 years and is replaced by Obama were are seriously screwed as a nation.

I respect others who feel differently because they think Romney will destroy the country too and the GOP along with it. I think he’ll be a little worse than Bush, who was bad, but hopefully he’d avoid the same blunders. If he doesn’t he’ll be a 1 termer.

Either way I love stupid analogies, Obama is trying to burn down my house and has be to stopped, he’s standing there pouring gas on it. Glove Romney as the Republican nominee is the only guy with a hose and pair of handcuffs to get rid of him. But Romney is a pyro-maniac himself and maybe (or say probably instead of maybe, or even say certainly) he’s gonna start his own fire before long. That will be dealt with when it happens. Obama wins and my house is a pile of ash tomorrow.

I’m not making a pitch for Romney I hate the guy but to make a much better analogy stolen from another freeper it’s like helping Stalin beat Hitler in WW2.

Everyone will make their own choice, I used to be on the no more RINO Presidents period train myself so I get that and I hate our RINO Presidents Bush 2, Bush 1, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, (I’ll be charitable and give Ike a pass) I hate their damn worthless guts and every one of them enabled the democrat slime that followed. Last Republican Prez that was followed by an elected Republican Prez, Reagan, before that, Coolidge. (plus Ike was middling and 1960 was a tie). That is not a coincidence.

It’s a vicious cycle. Romney’s slogan should be out of the fire and back in the frying pan.

Sorry for the long post.


33 posted on 06/01/2012 11:54:56 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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