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California-based Apple to build $210-million new manufacturing plant. In China
Orange Punch the political commentary blog of the Orange County Register ^ | 5-21-2012 | Mark Landsbaum

Posted on 05/21/2012 11:42:44 AM PDT by Mark Landsbaum

Gov. Jerry Brown and the Democratic Party-controlled state Legislature and the army of bureaucrats and tax collectors doing their bidding have triumphed again. California-based Apple Computer will build a spanking new, $210-million manufacturing plant.

In China.

Is anyone surprised? The corporate tax rate in California is horrendous, the workforce is taxed worse than the corporations, the cost of living is off the charts thanks in large part to the costly burdens added by government regulations and housing, well, you know how that compares for California versus the rest of the world...

(Excerpt) Read more at orangepunch.ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Travel
KEYWORDS: apple; blogpimp; california; china; costs; jerrybrown; ntsa; regulation; taxes
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To: 9422WMR

Its complicated by the GATT, WTO and all the anti American trade ‘agreements’ put into place by free traitorous politicians. Add that to the fact that State governors mock the constitution and work out agreements with foreign government. Schwarzenegger and Brown acted unconstitutionally and have signed many MOUs and agreements with China sending California’s wealth to the communists. This includes the tax dollars fraudulently obtained from citizens which are then shuffled off to the chinese communists for their use. The bullet train is a fine example of state tax monies funding foreign enterprise.

“free trade” agreements are designed to destroy the constitutional tariff system the founders provided to the citizens of this country.


21 posted on 05/21/2012 12:21:34 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

I did not say that recent college graduates would not work at all, only that they were RELUCTANT to work at entry-level wages. Times being what they are and all, some of them will take the entry-level wages.

But many of the rest are bypassing opportunities because they aren’t getting on the fast track right away, and those are the ones that opt to become “professional students”, educating themsleves into middle age with trivial degrees. And racking up ever higher and higher student loan balances.

What the US needs is a lot more STEM (science-technical-engineering-mathematical) degrees, and not the make-work pieces of wallpaper handed out in lieu of real accomplishments in learning.


22 posted on 05/21/2012 12:23:19 PM PDT by alloysteel (Fear and intimidation work. At least on the short term.)
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To: central_va

“free trade” agreements negate the ability for American citizens to impose tariffs. Congress has really covered their butts on this one because they just abdicate their responsibility to the trade representative and the WTO.

All our politicians have so many ‘investments’ in China they will do NOTHING to interfere with them.


23 posted on 05/21/2012 12:24:46 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: MeganC

There is a rare earth mine in California due to open shortly after expansion.


24 posted on 05/21/2012 12:36:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Mark Landsbaum
based Apple Computer will build a spanking new, $210-million manufacturing plant. In China.

Apple would it hurt you to PUT AQMERICANS to work?? the cost of Labor in China is not as cheap as it was.

25 posted on 05/21/2012 12:39:11 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12, don't blame 0 for tearing up the CONSTITUTION!!)
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To: Mark Landsbaum
So they're moving everything to Siricon Varrey?
26 posted on 05/21/2012 1:08:45 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Slave labor? I see. so these poor slaves are being forced against their will to take jobs they don’t want. Are you sure you’re in the right place? There are some other forums out there where and lots of similar tripe will and does fly all the time.


27 posted on 05/21/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: hedgetrimmer

Slave labor? I see. so these poor slaves are being forced against their will to take jobs they don’t want. Are you sure you’re in the right place? There are some other forums out there where and lots of similar tripe will and does fly all the time.


28 posted on 05/21/2012 1:30:44 PM PDT by fire and forget
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To: Mark Landsbaum

How does the poster child for liberalism and the 99% get away with charging exorbitant prices, paying their workers a pittance in their stores, outsourcing a huge amount of their labor and still retain the image of an Occupy Wallstreeter with deodorant?

You would expect all their executives to be hanging by their heels off the Oakland Bay Bridge after having their bodies dragged through the streets of Cupertino by mobs of tweeting college rabble rousers


29 posted on 05/21/2012 2:23:07 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: fire and forget

Yes, slave labor.


30 posted on 05/21/2012 2:55:51 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
That’s the free traitor way to obfuscate the fact that Apple uses slave labor to build their products.

Heh. Gotta love how you big-government types think that Washington can make everything "fair." Who are the traitors?

31 posted on 05/21/2012 4:43:06 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Yes, slave labor.

Do you have any evidence that was not fabricated by a now admitted liar for his play? You do know your claims have been investigated and shot down multiple times by international civil rights and labor rights organizations and that thousands of applicants line up to apply for the jobs working on the Apple assembly lines as opposed to the lines making the other products that Honhai and Foxconn manufacture under contract for many other consumer electronics companies, because they are PAID MORE and get better benefits on the Apple lines! So I challenge you to provide YOUR evidence.

32 posted on 05/21/2012 9:11:05 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Mark Landsbaum; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
 Misleading headline untruthfully claims Apple is building a factory in China...NO, Foxconn, a CHINESE company, is building the factory in China, to manufacture products under contract for Apple... Another kettle of fish entirely from what the headline claims and changes the whole thrust of the criticism of this propaganda article! —PING!


Apple jobs creation Ping!

Please, No Flame Wars!
Discuss technical issues, software, and hardware.
Don't attack people!
Don't respond to the Anti-Apple Thread Trolls!
PLEASE IGNORE THEM!!!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

33 posted on 05/21/2012 9:18:59 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Mark Landsbaum
My understanding is that Foxconn, not Apple is building the plant, though the plant will be dedicated to Apple mobile devices.

That sounds about right but the plant will be much larger than $210-million. More like a billion (my intuitive guess). Apple want to keep the numbers on the down low for tax and PR reasons. 
Foxconn does the real greasy work. Faggy Apple guys in Cupertino California are in charge of hype, advertising and distribution and getting the herd to vote for Obama

34 posted on 05/21/2012 10:04:34 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: ExCTCitizen

It’s not just about cost.

One example: These plants are huge and employ tens of thousands of people who live in dorms right next to the plants. One night, Apple modified the design of the next iPhone. In order to not have it cause a delay in production, the company roused something like ten thousand plus workers in the middle of the night, fed them tea and biscuits, and sent them to work (paid, of course). The schedule was kept.

Can you imagine this happening in America these days? The union, the NLRB, everybody would be all over that company.

You may have heard regulations are to keep work hours below 60 hours per week. This is actually pissing off the workers. The vast majority don’t consider Foxconn a career. They’re mostly from the poor outlying districts of China. They come to Foxconn to work their asses off for a few years making as much as possible so they can go back home with a good nest egg. They WANT that 80+ hour work week so they can go back sooner.

Imagine that in the US at that scale. Not happening. Well, maybe if we granted two-year work visas to any Mexican who wants it, and keep the unions and NLRB light-years away.

I had a summer job in high-school, 3 days of a 12-hour shift and one day of four hours, every week. This meant the maximum 40 hours. I had one goal that summer, to make as much money as possible to afford what I wanted at the end. I didn’t have other plans, and biking to work and the job itself were doing good for my physique. I wanted to work that 12-hour shift six days a week, but that damn 40 hour legal limit just about halved my potential take for the summer. I understand how these workers feel. I had to buss tables and wash dishes into the school year to afford what I wanted, meaning the child labor laws really worked opposite their intent, taking my time during school days instead of letting me use free summer hours.


35 posted on 05/21/2012 10:40:30 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: BfloGuy

Where did your insult, ‘big government types’ come from?

I correctly identify a communist slave labor system as a means of production and I’m a big government type? Ha ha.

Don’t you believe in elected government? I guess not, because a communist party doesn’t need elections for their power.

The list of traitors is very long. You could start with the corruption of the transnational corporation contributing to political campaigns, which has literally wiped out individual rights and sovereignty in the nation.

Every corrupt lying politician who claims the US is ‘interdependent’ is a traitor. That includes Bush I Clinton Bush II and Obama. It includes all the members of the house and senate who invest in communist countries like China, then pass laws that hobble us but make their overseas money grow.

It is not fair for a free people to make communist dictators wealthy, nor to empower them with US tax dollars for their infrastructure improvements so transnational corporations can do business there.

There is nothing ‘fair’ or Constitutional about the ‘free trade’ system, or the free traitors who run it.


36 posted on 05/22/2012 9:46:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: antiRepublicrat

You know, when people work 80 hour shifts and live in dormitories owned by the company they work for, pay rent to the company they work for, and most assuredly pay for the food they eat on shift to the company they work for, how much of those wages are truly theirs?

This is slavery where you have to pay the boss rent!

When you work 80 hour shifts in this country, and in the software industry you can work for months without a day off, with no extra pay for it, you don’t have time to participate self governance. How do you go to a school board meeting, or a city council meeting when you work those hours? How do you raise your children if you’re an absentee parent always at ‘work’?

The globalists find this lifestyle for the lowly wage earner very appealing. It takes pesky individualists out of the process so that they can corrupt and ruin our constitutional government without opposition. They can turn our schools into communist indoctrination camps, and parents, always at work, have no power to stop them. Why do people like you defend this?


37 posted on 05/22/2012 10:50:21 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: alloysteel

What do you mean? There’s two giant manufacturing plants right next to each other that are state of the art, and should be free, because they’ve already been paid for by the tax payer. Call Tesla or Solyndra. They’re beautiful landscaped properties with loads of first world amenities.

Oh and by the way, California has loads of smart people who know how to work. We started the software industry here, doncha know.

We could do a lot more, if the traitorous globalists in our government would stop selling our state out to foreign interests.


38 posted on 05/22/2012 10:55:04 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: dennisw
That sounds about right but the plant will be much larger than $210-million. More like a billion (my intuitive guess). Apple want to keep the numbers on the down low for tax and PR reasons. Foxconn does the real greasy work. Faggy Apple guys in Cupertino California are in charge of hype, advertising and distribution and getting the herd to vote for Obama

More total mis and disinformation from you, Dennis... go away.

39 posted on 05/22/2012 10:57:20 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
Oooh international civil rights and labor groups!

There's cred for you!

Are they more honest than the UN skimming the money off the oil tanker the US Navy caught during the Iraq oil embargo? They probably get their own payoff, and there's no way to fact check them.

I guess you're one of those 'interdependence' people that Bush Clinton Bush Obama claim for this country.
40 posted on 05/22/2012 11:00:13 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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