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Biden: Trayvon Martin’s Death Should Spark Gun Law Debate
The Blaze ^ | 04-01-12 | Madeleine Morgenstern

Posted on 04/01/2012 11:20:10 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA

Vice President Joe Biden said the death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin should prompt a debate about gun laws, particularly the state’s “Stand Your Ground” statute.

“It’s important that people be put in a position where their Second Amendment rights are protected, but that they also don’t, as a consequence of the laws, unintendedly put themselves in harm’s way,” Biden said in an interview broadcast Sunday on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

Biden, a former chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said any such discussion would be a state issue, not a federal one. Still, he expressed doubt over the idea that carrying a gun makes people safer.

“The idea that there’s this overwhelming additional security in the ownership and carrying concealed and deadly weapons…I think it’s the premise, not the constitutional right, but the premise that it makes people safer is one that I’m not so sure of,” Biden said.

George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer, has claimed self-defense in shooting Martin, who was unarmed. Zimmerman remains free, claiming protection under “Stand Your Ground,” which permits using deadly force rather than retreating in a fight.

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I was wondering when these clowns were going to get around to pushing their gun grabbing agenda over this shooting. These people are so predictable.


1 posted on 04/01/2012 11:20:14 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: Lazlo in PA

That “under the radar” thing again.


2 posted on 04/01/2012 11:21:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used 2.5-million times per year to prevent robberies, rapes, murders, carjackings, home-invasions, etc., 99% of the time without a shot being fired.

Gun Facts

3 posted on 04/01/2012 11:22:35 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Agreed. I was also wondering when they were going to get to their “guns are bad” knee-jerk reaction.

So here’s the answer. When this 6-foot-plus 17-year-old jumps me in the dark and is punching my face and slamming my head against the ground, I need a gun for self-defense.

We SHOULD debate this. Bring it on.


4 posted on 04/01/2012 11:24:52 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: Lazlo in PA

And this dummy is VPOTUS.


5 posted on 04/01/2012 11:25:14 AM PDT by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

My Constitutional right trumps your “doubt” every time Mr. VP


6 posted on 04/01/2012 11:25:52 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

What is there to debate? Threaten with a gun, 10 years. Use a gun in crime, 20 years. Use a gun to murder, life. Use a gun to defend yourself from harm, no problem. So where is the problem Mr. Biden??


7 posted on 04/01/2012 11:26:13 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Frankly, I think this was the intent of the hue and cry all along.


8 posted on 04/01/2012 11:26:35 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Lazlo in PA
“It’s important that people be put in a position where their Second Amendment rights are protected, but that they also don’t, as a consequence of the laws, unintendedly put themselves in harm’s way,” Biden said

To me, it's simply incredible that the bolded part of the quote was uttered by a liberal. If you had told me in the 1990's that this would be said by the likes of Biden, I would have laughed you off the stage.

Some progress has been made.

9 posted on 04/01/2012 11:27:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Biden: _________________ Should Spark Gun Law Debate

....as far as these people are concerned, fill in the blank....just about anything will do.

10 posted on 04/01/2012 11:30:07 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: Lazlo in PA

How about a violent crime debate instead, you pandering idiot.


11 posted on 04/01/2012 11:31:40 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Tawana Brawley, Anita Hill, King Rodney, OJ, Duke Lacrosse, Thugvon Martin. See a pattern?)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Oh shut up you ignorant old man..


12 posted on 04/01/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Lazamataz
Some progress has been made.

I agree. Just looking at the statistics and the fact that many states are expanding rights for gun owners, the gun grabbing lobby has been thoroughly discredited. I was equally surprised Biteme had to add this qualifier before he jumped into slamming the gun laws.

13 posted on 04/01/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Gun Control Pictures, Images and Photos
14 posted on 04/01/2012 11:37:06 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Lazlo in PA

Why are they bringing “Stand Your Ground” into this? This wasn’t a stand your ground case - you never had a duty to retreat when doing so is impossible as with a thug slamming your head into the cement!

So why? Because it’s a toe-hold issue. One of the last big legal fights. And they’re losing. So they need to push back.

See my tag. BTW, the predator class includes the leftists who (1) enable thugs and (2) count on the thugs’ votes...


15 posted on 04/01/2012 11:39:07 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Gun control. This is what it’s been about from the beginning.

This chaos is orchestrated by the WH in conjunction with the media - it has always been about gun control. They all want it.

They think that their messaging problem is because what appeared to be an open-shut case, is not an open-shut case.

However, the real problem is that this WH is about as stupid as it gets and couldn’t pull off a sweater; let alone political theater.

Just like Fast-n-Furious.


16 posted on 04/01/2012 11:41:21 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: Lazlo in PA

No, Joey Joe Joe, it should spark a black thug control debate.


17 posted on 04/01/2012 11:47:20 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Slow Joe:

Was Trayvon trespassing on private property (gated community)? Yes.

Did Trayvon assault Zimmerman? Yes.

Did Trayvon simply walk away or call the police? No.

So all the Trayvon protesters don’t understand 1) private property, 2) assault, or 3) avoiding confrontation?

Face it. Trayvon did all the wrong things. Period.

Oh, and F*** you Spike Lee, Will Smith, Bobby Rush, MSNBC and anyone that doesn’t believe in due process!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 04/01/2012 11:47:44 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Snickering Hound
I consider this the worst and scariest picture of my lifetime.

It could be YOUR child or YOUR father.

We were soooooo wrong in this case.....from the beginning.

19 posted on 04/01/2012 11:47:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Bringbackthedraft
What is there to debate? Threaten with a gun, 10 years. Use a gun in crime, 20 years. Use a gun to murder, life. Use a gun to defend yourself from harm, no problem. So where is the problem Mr. Biden??

Joe is just looking for the 2nd Amendment justification for Fast And Furious.

20 posted on 04/01/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by immadashell
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