Posted on 03/31/2012 9:32:23 AM PDT by STARWISE
ABC News boldly proclaimed police surveillance video of George Zimmerman being taken into the Sanford police station the night Trayvon Martin was killed showed no blood or bruises from an alleged physical encounter Zimmerman claimed to have had with 17 year-old Trayvon Martin.
Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman
A new High Definition clip from the same video appears to make clear that Zimmerman had a gash, or wound of some kind on the back of his head. That would be totally consistent with his version of events on the night in question and opposite the impression ABC News gave its viewers.
Big Journalism called the ABC video-based report reckless and revealing of nothing after it first aired.
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Fed gov will move to charge him with violating Civil Rights and subject him to another trial even if he is found innocent of the first one. If he beats that, the black groups will fund the Martins to file a civil suit for wrongful death. In a civil suit, you are presume guilty and must prove your innocence. By the time all is done, Zim would have legal fees for three major trials.
The video ABC first put out was a video of a video playing on computer monitor (you see the camera wobble and move left to right including barelt showing the time date stamp on the bottom of the original video image.) Originally I thought this was someone in the Sanford police department sympathetic to Martin who took the original video, played it on a screen and videotaped it and sent it to ABC. That still may be the case.
But now it appears possible that the original was sent to ABC, they videotaped the video playing on a monitor to degrade the quality of the video in order to create the narrative that Zimmerman had no injuries.
The other possibility is that the video was indeed made by someone at the Sanford PD sympathetic to Martin and then leaked to ABC, making it necessary for the Sanford PD to release the actual video FILE to counter ABC’s purposeful distortion and false narrative and show that in the original video Zimmerman indeed had a gash on the back of his head.
Read yesterday that it wasn’t till ZImmerman had visited the DR that he knew his nose was broken AND that he had a small concussion. Have looked but cannot find a source for this information and link was not given.
If this is true, Martin’s family is gonna have a few surprises when they go to court. Paraticularly if forensic results are also consistant with Zimmerman’s report.
Having been “taken into custody” and “interviewed” more than once I must say everybody is being rather casual. Handcuffs look to be an SOP thing rather than a real worry that he is going to cause any harm.
I don’t know exactly how the law would be interpreted in this case. It says “provokes the use of force against himself,” which I would assume might mean something other than initiating the use of force himself, perhaps verbal aggression, etc.
However, I will assume your interpretation applies.
This does not sound to me like a good law. A person who starts a fight, is losing, and is therefore “in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm” should not, IMO, be allowed to claim justifiable homicide and walk if he then kills the other guy. This would apply to just about every bar fight that happens, and FTM some of the fights I got into in high school.
In such a case I don’t believe a charge of first-degree murder would be justified, or possibly even second-degree. But one would think manslaughter or something similar would be appropriate.
If taken literally, I could physically assault someone, which is a crime, and then kill him when I’m losing, and just walk away. Giving me a legal incentive to kill the guy defending himself rather than take a beating. If he survives, I’m charged with assault or possibly assault with intent to kill. If I kill him I walk.
That just doesn’t sound right.
If Zimmerman is NOT tried because of stand your ground (which I hope and pray he’s not because he’s innocent), the family CANNOT sue civily. The law prohibits it. :)
He had no option to retreat or break off the engagement. It is this specific factor that permitted the use of deadly force. If Martin were merely "winning" a mutual fistfight, Zimmerman would have no right of self defense under Florida law as I see it.
The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:(1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or
(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:
(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or
(b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
“He could have been carrying his own head in a duffel bag and the reaction from the left wouldnt be any different.”
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You’ve got that right.
The most pathetic part of is is that the libs WANT trouble and deep down are glad that this happened.
Reading their posts makes you realize that they are just delighted——along with some crocodile tears,of course.
Read some of Zimmerman’s earlier 911 calls. One to help a motorist with car problems, another to reports kids climbing chainlink fence at the close pool area.
AA friend of George said he tutored AA and hispanic young men on the week end: Serving as both a role model and father figure.
Seems like dad raised a very involved caring young man.
Hope the forensic material leaves no doubt of the struggle for the gun: Powder on TM’s hand or something like that.
Name names, saying "the media" is biased doesn't accomplish jack.
Interesting...Is it simply a case of "follow the money?" Maybe that should be brought to the attention of those trying to present both sides.
This is a set up for Rodney King situation version #2. I also think back to the time of ‘zoot suiters’. Different race and different garb but much the same societal influences especially if you consider the bad hoodies.
Interesting...Is it simply a case of "follow the money?" Maybe that should be brought to the attention of those trying to present both sides.
I don't think so. The incident present opportunities for all sorts. The ambulance chasing lawyer, the race-baiter, and those who are opposed to the use of deadly force in self defense.
The "stand your ground" aspects of Florida law aren't even in play in this incident, but some mendacious politicians and a go-along media have succeeded in giving a good chuck of the public that somehow, this incident involves "stand your ground."
And to emphasize my first point, this case can be about follow the money - it is - and probably in a larger sense. If there is no immunity from prosecution in cases of justified self defense, then the thug class has less to lose, and plenty to gain, by starting fights.
This the degenerate little prick that runs ABC News, his name is Ben Sherwood.
Tweet his effin address, he should be getting back from temple just about now.
The text of the Florida law says:
(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.If you initiate an assault upon another, then you are engaged in an unlawful activity, and thus are NOT allowed to use deadly force.
Well, the ignorance of the lefties and race baiters could contribute to the fact that they have no idea when they peel the layers off this fraud, that they won’t be able to squeeze ANYTHING out of George, as the stand your ground and castle laws of FLA protect those that protect themselves.
We, as CCL carriers in this state, can even kill someone else that is harming another person, and that person’s (perp’s) family cannot come after us financially.
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