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Fake Marine Problem. Help.
myself | 10/11/2011 | Grapeape

Posted on 10/11/2011 4:17:25 PM PDT by grapeape

I think that I may have stumbled onto a very large problem. I am working with a guy that says that he was a Marine and I am 99% sure that he isn't. He has got a really great story going and he has fooled a lot of people. I need a place to go to so that I can prove that he isn't a marine.

I can already proove several of his other stories are fabrications but this is the key. I have read online that is a rather big problem, especially for the Corps and the Seals. Can anyone tell me where to go to find out if this guy ever served?

Thanks for your help.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Reference; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fruad; imposter; marine; stolenvalor
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To: IrishPennant

You’re forgiven. Just one thing, never under estimate the beligerance of an 0331 Lance Criminal.....man that seems so long ago.


101 posted on 10/11/2011 8:51:24 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: grapeape

Thisainthell.us is a website that specializes in unmasking fake service members. However, they generally only do this to those who wear a uniform in public or seek benefits they didn’t earn. It’s worth a try.


102 posted on 10/11/2011 9:44:49 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: doorgunner69; Jacquerie

Replacement copies are awful hard to get from your service branch. If they’re recorded at the courthouse you can get a legally certified copy in very short order for about $12 (your county may vary).


103 posted on 10/11/2011 11:35:46 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (I have been called intolerant. It's true. I refuse to tolerate the intolerable.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Not really, Just contact the National Personnel Records Center in St Louis, MO and make a request.

JC


104 posted on 10/12/2011 12:19:02 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: cracker45

And that takes how long? Don’t know about your courthouse, but mine will produce it in minutes.


105 posted on 10/12/2011 1:10:46 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I have been called intolerant. It's true. I refuse to tolerate the intolerable.)
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To: grapeape

There is a lot to be said for minding one’s own business.


106 posted on 10/12/2011 2:02:04 AM PDT by tlb
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To: grapeape

Just ask him if he ever had to carry a pig.


107 posted on 10/12/2011 2:16:31 AM PDT by eastforker
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To: doorgunner69

It is too valuable to lose. Consider recording it, unless you have something you’d rather not disclose.


108 posted on 10/12/2011 2:25:33 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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To: doorgunner69
What an odd concept. Other than applying for a veteran license plate, why on earth is my DD214 anyone else's business as to have it recorded?

I would think the only reason to have it filed, would be if you routinely referred others to it as a job requirement, such as for a defense contractor position. Even still, there are probably other ways to share that information.

One last point, my DD214 had my SSN on it, as that was routinely used in most forms of documentation and IDs, most likely prior to the year 2000. I wouldn't want to have that available as public knowledge.

109 posted on 10/12/2011 6:54:39 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: ExGeeEye

You stated that replacement copies were “awfully hard” to get from the service branch. I posted the location where they’re readily available. The court house isn’t normally the repository of military service records of anyone I know. Besides, if you put a copy in the court house, why not make several additional copies for your own records at the same time? That bypasses the issue altogether, especially for those who move to a different county or state. I keep them in an envelope along with the rest of my personal records.

JC


110 posted on 10/12/2011 8:15:35 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: MagUSNRET

unfortunately that law was shot down by the courts.


112 posted on 10/12/2011 9:04:31 AM PDT by waynesa98
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To: grapeape

you could try stolenhonor.com


113 posted on 10/12/2011 9:05:37 AM PDT by waynesa98
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To: grapeape

I messed that one up. stolenvalor.com stolenhonor is the kerry site.


114 posted on 10/12/2011 9:12:36 AM PDT by waynesa98
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To: cracker45
You stated that replacement copies were “awfully hard” to get from the service branch.

So I was informed at my separation briefing in 1999, when I was advised to record it with my county courthouse. Perhaps things have improved since then.

I posted the location where they’re readily available.

Thank you. How long does it take to get a copy from there?

The court house isn’t normally the repository of military service records of anyone I know.

Now you know one.

Besides, if you put a copy in the court house, why not make several additional copies for your own records at the same time?

Twice in twelve years I have had need to show either the original or a certified copy. Photocopies and e-mailed scans have been useful for all other purposes.

That bypasses the issue altogether, especially for those who move to a different county or state.

If I ever move to another county or state, I will record my DD214 there as well.

I keep them in an envelope along with the rest of my personal records.

Do you keep them in one of those fire-resistant safes or the smaller boxes? I don't...

...because I can get a new one in minutes from my county courthouse for twelve dollars.

Have a pleasant day.

115 posted on 10/12/2011 9:25:03 AM PDT by ExGeeEye (I have been called intolerant. It's true. I refuse to tolerate the intolerable.)
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To: IrishPennant

I have to comment on your statement that Navy Corpsmen were the worst offenders for making false claims of valor.

If you are a former Marine, you know that the Marine Corps does not have medical personnel. That service, including in combat, is provided by Navy Corpsmen.

A Navy Corpsman is the person, on the battlefield, trying to save your life when you are wounded in combat. He is right there beside you when you are under fire.

While I was at NCSP San Miguel, I personally was acquainted with a Navy Corpsman who was previously with a Force Recon unit out of Camp Schwab in Okinawa. When he left NCSP, he was reassigned back to Force Recon. I dont believe he was a REMF. Maybe you should rethink your blanket statement regarding Navy Corpsmen.

I just want all to recognize the important role played by the Navy Corpsmen and that many of them do have legitimate claims to acts of valor while assigned to combat units.

Have a nice day now.
Topsail


116 posted on 10/12/2011 10:20:14 AM PDT by topsail
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To: ExGeeEye

It takes a couple of weeks from St Louis. Copies always work for me, and the last time, a requirement to submit one for SS start up wasn’t actually a requirement at all. They took the info over the phone merely to verify data that they had already researched beforehand.

JC


117 posted on 10/12/2011 10:39:21 AM PDT by cracker45
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To: jmacusa
...Military Occupational Status...

Try again. You can't test someone by making stuff up and having imprecise and incorrect answers yourself.

BTW...it's "Gunnery Sergeant".

118 posted on 10/20/2011 3:38:40 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (Very generic, non-offensive, tagline.)
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To: Mr.Unique

Oh, so then my brother who was a 1st. Lt, 5th. Marines was incorrect? Did you serve? So then you’re telling me theres no such thing as an “MOS’’?


119 posted on 10/20/2011 3:48:37 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
Oh, so then my brother who was a 1st. Lt, 5th. Marines was incorrect?

I'm saying you are incorrect. I don't know your brother. Does he post here?

Did you serve?

Yes, for 28 years (USAF). Did you?

So then you’re telling me theres no such thing as an “MOS’’?

I'm telling you that MOS does not stand for "Military Occupational Status".

120 posted on 10/20/2011 3:59:47 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (Very generic, non-offensive, tagline.)
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