Columbia speaks! BO NOT there in '81.

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[charlene4]

Cpt. Pamela Barnett: Obama said that he visited Pakistan in 1981 in trying to boast his "international" experience. However, according to school records Obama was not attending Columbia University as he has said.

SO WHERE WAS OBAMA IN 1981????

Obama was most likely on an Indonesian passport when he visited Pakistan as the DHS and DOJ redact all records that point to him being adopted by Lo Lo Soetoro. Obama was in Pakistan when a murderous muslim ruler was in control of Pakistan and warring with the Soviet communists.

[mojitojoe]

You conveniently left out most of the poem which is definitely NOT MadeLYN Dunham.

[ml/nj]

Possible, but I don't think likely.

ML/NJ

[Dakkster]

You say that Obama Sr & Ann or FMD & Madeline are not Barry’s parents, and yet don’t any ideas on whose Barry’s parents might be.

What then is your evidence and what is it about?

[little jeremiah]

Repeating my comment because you didn’t seem to “get it”:

If you want to know what evidence I base my view on, then you should do some searches and spend hundreds of hours reading just the way I have.

I am sure that Obama the Kenyan and Stanley Ann are not Zero’s parents.

I am equally sure that your cockamamie speculation is untrue as well.

If you are sincere about wanting to know stuff, you should read on FR for days and days. And days and days.... Many of us here have been voracious reading (and many have been researching) for more than 3 yrs on FR.

It looks to me as though you are purposely muddying the waters with fiction and then fishing to see what everyone else knows.

If you really really wanted to know what there is to know, you’d do some serious searches and studying up. Have at it!

[Dakkster]

Here is the whole poem again from post #64:

‘37 Horizontal Cameos’:

# 21. Madeline

Twice annually
Madeline shopped in Paris and Rome;
Each year
A new WHITE Cadillac CONVERTIBLE
Her new penthouse apartment
Included four originals by Matisse
And had been the birthplace
Of six Broadway hits;
She was available by appointment
Only to select white Gentiles
Well rated in DUN & BRADSTREET
She was hospitalized
For a year at thirty-two
Because of a nervous breakdown
When her maid
Angry at being fired
Called her a floozy.

(’Black Moods - Uncollected and Unpublished Poems: Horizontal Cameos: 37 Portraits’, pg 220)

Here is another poem from the same book that is likely about Ann Dunham:

# 2. Anne

In the gangling hours
Thin, adolescent hours
Before night runs softly
Away into the west
Anne rises wearily
From her tired bed
And sleeps
Sitting in a chair

(Black Moods – Uncollected and Unpublished Poems: Horizontal Cameos: 37 Portraits, pg 212)

[ml/nj]

And, BTW, my professors would have to have extraordinary memories to remember me, I think, and I was in the top quarter of my class. (It's much more likely that some professors at UVa or Cornell remember me, even though at most I've sat in on a total of three of their classes. It's that I did something that might be memorable to them which was first to have the temerity to show up as an adult and then challenge them if they allowed me to do so. Even if I didn't challenge, some might remember because I made points they didn't usually hear from the regular students.)

ML/NJ

[Dakkster]

Why are you unable to state who you think Barry’s parents are and can only ridicule someone who states CLEARLY, along with evidence, that they think Barry’s parents Frank Marshall Davis & Madelyn Payne?

You’re not a poser who studies Saul Alinsky are you?

[charlene4]

Wayne Root alsotsted that at a reunion, not too long before ‘08 he was asked to be the official at reunion. He pointed out that IF Barry was really a student it was quite remarkable that Columbia did not ask Barry. Actually his name was never mentioned. A senator never even mentioned?
Also Wayne and Barry’ paths should have crossed as they were both in the same area. A young 1/2 white/ mixed Arab/ and black. Good looking party guy and no one remembers him?
Manning studied across the street and has stated he would have known of him for sure. The ladies that scoured yearbooks during the *Trial* of Columbia could find no Barry, no Barrack, Dunham, Soetoro, nor Obama.
I dunno but I think the Columbia story is just that or there is much more to it.

[little jeremiah]

You’re a stinking troll.

[Dakkster]

You might want change your screenname, now that you’ve been exposed as a poser.

[masadaman]

Cora Weiss, I believe, was the daughter of Samuel Rubin, an American millionaire and major Soviet sympathizer. According to various web accounts, she was responsible, using the Rubin Foundation funds, for bringing Barack Obama Sr. to the University of Hawaii from Kenya. (Senior was not part of the well-known State Dept. African student fly-over project whatsoever.) Cora Weiss may have had a leading financial role in introducing BHO II into NYC's hard left upper echelons and for gaining his advanced admission to Columbia College. For Cora, Barack II was almost family.

[mojitojoe]

Twice annually
Madeline shopped in Paris and Rome;

______________________________________

NO PROOF WHATSOEVER SHE EVER SHOPPED IN PARIS AND ROME... A FASHION ICON SHE WAS NOT

Each year
A new WHITE Cadillac CONVERTIBLE

________________________________________

COULD BE ANYONE

________________________________________
Her new penthouse apartment
Included four originals by Matisse
And had been the birthplace
Of six Broadway hits;
______________________________________________
NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT SHE EVER HAD A FANCY PENTHOUSE APARTMENT BUT PLENTY OF EVIDENCE SHE DIDN’T. HER ADDRESSES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES

___________________________________________________

She was available by appointment
Only to select white Gentiles
Well rated in DUN & BRADSTREET

________________________________________

NO WAY DOES THIS APPLY TO MADELYN DUNHAM

She was hospitalized
For a year at thirty-two
Because of a nervous breakdown
________________________________________________
WHERE IS THE PRROOF? NO PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT SHE HAD A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN AT THE AGE OF 32 IN 1954 WHEN STANLEY ANNE WAS 12 YEARS OLD.

_____________________________________________
When her maid
Angry at being fired
Called her a floozy.
_____________________________________
NO PROOF MADELYN EVER HAD A MAID AND SHE SEEMED MORE LIKE A GOODY TWO SHOES THAN A FLOOZY.

(’Black Moods - Uncollected and Unpublished Poems: Horizontal Cameos: 37 Portraits’, pg 220)
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Here is another poem from the same book that is likely about Ann Dunham:

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PLEASE DON’T STATE THAT AS FACT, YOU ARE ONLY GUESSING IT IS ABOUT STANLEY ANNE DUNHAM THOUGH IT COULD BE. WHAT YEAR WAS IT WRITTEN? AND BY THE WAY, WHAT A STUPID, MEANINGLESS NOTHING POEM.

# 2. Anne

In the gangling hours
Thin, adolescent hours
Before night runs softly
Away into the west
Anne rises wearily
From her tired bed
And sleeps
Sitting in a chair

[mojitojoe]

I find this one written by the halfrican, Marxist , Kenyan, homo, smelly fly attracting, jug eared fool who is squatting in the White House far more interesting:

Pop

Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies . . .
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing

...... who is Pop? It definitely is not Sr. He called Stanley Dunham Gramps... or did he?

[mojitojoe]

Have you read his book Sex Rebel? Two years after Sex Rebel was published, Stanley Armour Dunham—a decade-long friend of Davis—introduced him to Barry. The late 60s had been the end for Davis’s family life. The year after Sex Rebel came out, Davis’ son left home and joined the Air Force. After years of marital difficulties described in Davis’ FBI files, his wealthy wife Helen Canfield Davis, whose own sexual escapades are described extensively in the book, finally divorced Davis in 1970. Oddly enough, that was the same year that Stanley Anne shipped Barry’s sorry a$$ home from Indonesia and dumped him on Madelyn and Stanely.

Take note of this part......and think about it. If you read ‘Dreams” you will see the connection:

“Married or not, Davis’s fun and games continued unabated after moving to Hawaii in 1948. After his escapade with “Dot” and “Lloyd”, Davis describes group sex and voyeurism at “the Green Goose, a bar in Honolulu’s ‘Little Harlem’ on Smith Street, then operated by one of my friends.” Smith Street was Honolulu’s one and only slice of the ghetto scenes so prevalent in Mainland inner cities.

Obama’s relationship with Davis would last from age nine to eighteen and is described in chapters four and five of Obama’s autobiography, “Dreams from my Father.” Obama describes gramp’s other black male friends but is not particularly impressed with them.
He then writes:
“There was one exception; a poet named Frank who lived in a dilapidated house in a run-down section of Waikiki….He would read us his poetry whenever we stopped by his house, sharing whiskey with gramps out of an emptied jelly jar. As the night wore on, the two of them would solicit my help in composing dirty limericks. Eventually, the conversation would turn to laments about women.
“‘They’ll drive you to drink, boy,’ Frank would tell me soberly. ‘And if you let ‘em they’ll drive you into your grave.’
“I was intrigued by old Frank, with his books and whiskey breath and the hint of hard-earned knowledge behind the hooded eyes. The visits to his house always left me feeling vaguely uncomfortable, though, as if I were witnessing some complicated, unspoken transaction between the two men, a transaction I couldn’t fully understand. The same thing I felt whenever gramps took me downtown to one of his favorite bars, in Honolulu’s red light district….usually I would sit at the bar, my legs dangling from the high stool, blowing bubbles into my drink and looking at the pornographic art on the walls—the phosphorescent women on animal skins, the Disney characters in compromising positions….”

Unless you have read Sex Rebel, you cannot ever know what a truly sick, perverted man Frank Marshall Davis was.

[little jeremiah]

Compare this sick perverted commie freak to any other president, no matter how loathesome the other president might have been. This one hits the bullseye of evil.

[Yaelle]

Since there are no records at all of Lolo adopting Barack, I assume that it was a “casual” and not legal adoption. Most stepparents do this. Plenty of times the child takes the last name just to be the same as the rest of the family, but no adoption legally takes place.

Of course they would have told the school in Indonesia that Lolo was his father or adoptive father so he could attend. This doesn’t mean it was legal. My oldest attended private school under his not-legal stepfather’s last name.

[Dakkster]

1. It has already been shown that Madeline Payne had a white convertible, was into banking (i.e Dun & Bradstreet), like traveling and lived in an apartment. All of these traits are indicated in the Madeline poem.

2. Maid excerpt from poem:

When her maid
Angry at being fired
Called her a floozy.

Dreams Ch 4 shows that not only did Madeline have an au pair (maid) but that Ann Dunham was an pair (maid) as shown here:

(1) ‘“Naw,” Frank said, “I don’t suppose he would have. Stan doesn’t like to talk about that part of Kansas much. Makes him uncomfortable. He told me once about a black girl they hired to look after your mother. A preacher’s daughter, I think it was. Told me how she became a regular part of the family. That’s how he remembers it, you understand-this girl coming in to look after somebody else’s children, her mother coming to do somebody else’s laundry. A regular part of the family.” (Dreams from My Father Ch 4)

(2) “I [Ann Dunham] was only sixteen then,” she told us as we entered the elevator. “I’d just been accepted to the University of Chicago- Gramps hadn’t told me yet that he wouldn’t let me go-and I was there for the summer, working as an AU PAIR’ (Dreams from My Father Ch 4)

Does this description of Madeline from Dreams Ch 3 sound like she is goody two shoes or a floozy:

‘Every morning, she woke up at five A.M. and changed from the frowsy muu-muus she wore around the apartment into a tailored suit and high-heeled pumps. (Dreams from My Father Ch 3)

[charlene4]

It is true he may have just used the name Soetoro and not have been legally adopted, but again, why would Lolo risk that? If it was illegal and each child had to carry a Gov issued ID?
OH MY! I just got it! THAT is when bo first learned about using forged or false docs........

[ETL]

I’ll bet the ranch that the couple in the 2nd photo on Obama’s 1983 ‘Breaking the War Mentality” is Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dorhn.

Here is that "2nd photo" (actually the 1st) photo from the article:

And here is an actual photo of Ayers and Dohrn:

It is NOT them. Just because the two guys pictured have glasses and a similiar goofy smile, does not mean they are the same. Ayers was around FORTY years old during the time of Obama's 1983 article. The guy in the article photo looks like a teenager. Ayers was born in 1944. That kid in the dark t-shirt is nowhere near 40 years old.

[ETL]

William Charles “Bill” Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1]

[1] Source: FBI files
http://vault.fbi.gov/Weather%20Underground%20%28Weathermen%29