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"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii."
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!
ping.
Well, if Barry was born in Hawaii, I wish he would produce a legitimate BC, and stop entertaining us with obvious frauds. I also wish he would explain that SS#.
Thank goodness this fraud will be out of the White House come next January.
“Obama Sr.’s presence in the US at the time of Obama’s birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.”
There is no logic to this conclusion.
I may be missing something but I don’t see anything in this article that proves or even strongly suggests that obama is a NATURAL born citizen.
Obama Sr.’s presence in the US at the time of Obama’s birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.
Did Obama Sr. give birth?
I don't think so.
I wonder how many people were born into the world while their father was over a hill, across a river, or on another continent.
Probably a great many.
....The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, “passport issue cards” are kept. This is beyond dispute....
Sorry Leo under the Obama Administration it is under dispute, they can’t find them.
Strange. This seems to go against everything WND has been arguing for the past three years.
And it makes no sense.
There is no PROOF of anything here. Only what those liars Dunham and Obama may have told INS at the time, OR what those liars in the records office in Hawaii may have told them.
It was commonplace for the Hawaii records office to lie about foreigners having been born in Hawaii. It means nothing, without better documentation.
And no new documentation is produced here. Only a convoluted argument that is full of holes.
Did Stan Ann ever know any men who didnt have visa problems ???
The whole "Kenyan birth" conspiracy was absurd from the very beginning. If one wants to argue Obama is ineligible on the basis of his foreign father, fine. I don't think this argument will ever bear fruit but at least there's something of an intellectual debate that can be had regarding what it means to be a natural born citizen. But to argue that Obama's teenage mom flew by herself halfway around the world to spawn the future President in a mud hut in Kenya is beyond ridiculous. It always has been and Farah did the issue a huge disservice with his pointless "Where's the Birth Certificate?" billboards.
THEN WHY THE HELL DID HE SUBMIT A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE???
IIRC, passports are good for 5 years and in '65 Stanley Ann renewed hers. She couldn't have renewed it if it never existed before.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Ohhh, that's a knee slapper!!!!!
It's been a while since I took a biology class but I don't recall that a baby couldn't be born outside the presence of the father. If the kid was born in Honolulu, Sr.'s INS records show he wasn't aware of the event until much later. Did "they" find these handwritten Lolo notes somewhere in the archives near the bc post-it note? Guess the term "natural born" took up too much space on the post-it note. Sorry, too many loose ends not connecting.
The usurper’s eligibility was indeed being discussed here in early 2008. To give credit where it is due though, Leo was one of the first to discover the NBC/Vattel/dual citizenship disqualification.
Thanks for your posting! Some comments from me.
1. NBC always abt. 2 points= parent(S) & place.
2. Leo has been VERY consistant.
3. BUT, what did the govt. investigate to determine Obama birth PLACE ....!?
4. user - Gena Bukin - is fast climbing the troll ladder to zotville.
What Leo is suggesting has already been done by both Dr Conspiracy and by Jeff Otherson - who have asked for the index cards showing passports issued to Stanley Ann Dunham or any of her married names. It’s been at least a year and a half; the Passport Office does not honor FOIA requests. I would think Leo, of all people, would have learned that by now.
Some of the documents that have showed up are very, very fishy. For instance, the age of Obama Sr is different on these records than on the other records we’ve seen for him. And Obama Sr does not claim BHO II as his son on these documents.
At the same time, every government agency that claims to have records on Obama has either covered up Obama’s lies or else outright forged documents for him - now including INS, which denied Pam Barnett access to Obama’s immigration file, which would not be necessary if Obama was a US citizen as claimed in this document (unless Obama relinquished US citizenship at some point in a legally-binding way). This makes clear that they know there is some screwy business and they are making sure to do CYA for Obama.
The only way we are ever going to get “closure” on the issue of Obama’s birth is by opening up the embedded transaction logs for all his alleged birth and citizenship records so we can see what genuine records, if any, actually exist for this guy, and what has been manipulated and forged, by whom, when, and why.
And the only way we’re going to get closure on the NBC issue is by a court ruling.
IOW, until we get a functioning law enforcement and judicial system, we just need to get used to being screwed, because that’s all that’s happening right now and all that ever will happen unless we rise up and INSIST LEGALLY that we the people have “standing” to hold our government accountable to the rule of law.
If America doesn’t care to rise up and do that, stick a fork in us; we’re dead.
The GAO Report does NOT document the destruction of passport application records. Sigh. I’ve done this research; Leo apparently hasn’t. There is no record of that destruction ever happening. None of the required paperwork for such a destruction exists.
And IIRC the report itself concludes that since the Passport Office wouldn’t agree to their recommendations regarding retention periods, the best they could hope for would be for 10-year passports rather than 5-year passports, which would greatly reduce the paperwork. And THAT change actually did happen shortly thereafter.
I need to run, but there is much, much more on the passport situation posted at my blog at http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com . If you scroll down to the different colors of texts, there’s one section that is about “The Passport Mess”. There’s tons of information there.
Leo has been busy doing other stuff; it’s impossible to be up on everything, but this is something that I have researched extensively, and that alleged destruction of passport application records is contradicted by a multitude of legal sources - not the least of which is the fact that records which were supposedly destroyed during that time period were actually disclosed to another requester.
The Passport Office appears to have forged a “cable” and submitted it in a court of law.
And the judge in Strunk’s case ruled that it was a “reasonable search” for the Passport Office to search records from 1978 and later when looking for records for 1965 and earlier.
The Passport Office is badly, badly compromised, and I don’t appreciate Donofrio casting aspersions on the motives of people like myself who know what we’re talking about on this issue because we’ve researched it extensively and found nothing but stench, obfuscation, and contradictions.
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it: the only way we will ever know what really happened with Obama is by looking at the embedded computer transaction logs to see what records, if any, are genuine and which have been either manipulated or outright manufactured. IIRC, some of Donofrio’s own researchers were involved in trying to figure out how we could access those embedded transaction logs. I wonder what they found out.
I never, for one second, thought he was born in Kenya. There is no way a 17-year-old pregnant girl is going to go that far to deliver, and why would she? There is no evidence they were even still together at that time, plus he had a wife and kids in Africa, not something a teen in 1961 would want to be near.
However, since she was not seen in HI for the later part of pregnancy and since when he was newborn she appeared ONLY in Seattle, probably she went where all the Seattle knocked up high school girls went, where maybe some girls she had known went, with their “trouble,” to Canada, to one of Vancouver’s two big homes for unwed mothers. One was Catholic and the other was run by the Salvation Army, so I’d bet on the latter.
That would explain the need to fake the BCs and SSs.